Predicting the next big flood


The question most people have about the threat of stormy weather and more flooding is the one the scientists find hardest to answer: how bad is it going to be?

The fact is that the science of understanding why rain falls, and where and when, and how it then soaks into the ground or spills into the streets, is extremely challenging.

And Britain, as an island nation, tucked between the Atlantic Ocean and the continental mass of Europe, and caught in a tussle between mild maritime air and icy blasts from the Arctic, has the least predictable weather of all.

So, as the Met Office tells us what we guessed already - that 2012 was one of the top five wettest years on record - a huge effort is under way to improve the forecasting.

This could make the difference between floodwaters that are contained and those that ruin homes and wreck lives.

One initiative is research that involves bands of scientists braving the turbulence of flying through the heart of storms - the only way to measure what is happening inside them. I reported on one of these missions last year.

Further flights are planned this year with a focus on the south west of England where violent downpours have caused devastation in places like Boscastle in 2004.

Inside clouds

The rain that battered that Cornish village was far greater than the computer models had forecast so the scientists will try to get a better grasp of the forces at work inside the clouds.

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We can't escape the fact that the atmosphere is chaotic”

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One of the scientists leading the research is Prof Geraint Vaughan, of the University of Manchester, who told me that however good the models "we can't escape the fact that the atmosphere is chaotic".

One option is for weather centres to run 'ensembles' of models with different variables - groups of computer simulations to see if any come up with similar forecasts.

According to Prof Vaughan: "Sometimes the ensembles all look broadly similar (and different models from different weather centres agree) - then a forecast can be made with some confidence.

"At other times the ensembles diverge and confidence is much lower.

"Knowing how to construct and interpret an ensemble is something we still need to do a lot of research into, but in principle it's a big step forward in gauging uncertainty of the weather forecast."

So a really accurate forecast weeks ahead is unlikely - there are just too many different factors involved.

Water forecasts

The best hope lies in trying to identify the broader changes under way - for example with the retreat of the Arctic sea-ice or the cycle of warming in the Pacific Ocean with El Nino and La Nina.

Understanding their impact might make it possible to offer some odds on the kind of weather likely in a coming season.

But, as Prof Vaughan admits: "I don't think I'd want to plan my holiday on such a basis!"

So, what about trying to forecast not only the rainstorms but also their likely impact?

One project being planned for release later this year is the first of a series of 'hydrological outlooks' for the UK - forecasts of water conditions for the month ahead.

This is being prepared with data from every rainfall station across the country, together with readings from the UK's 1300 river gauges, plus information about soil moisture.

It involves the Met Office, the Environment Agency and the Centre for Ecology and Hydrology (CEH).

On Thursday I reported from the CEH on the latest findings about how much water has soaked into the ground - and saw a bore-hole used for measuring water levels actually spouting out water because the ground was so saturated.

According to Professor Alan Jenkins, of the CEH at Wallingford in Oxfordshire, the outlook will be "a first attempt to give stakeholders what they've been asking for - a guide to water conditions ahead."

"It obviously comes with huge uncertainties but it's about trying to give advance warning.

"As with all models you've got to ask - are they better than nothing? We won't know till we've tried one in anger."

Soil saturation

A key factor that is missing at the moment for any flood forecast is the level of saturation of the soil.

The current estimates are produced by analyzing a range of variables like rainfall, temperature and evaporation.

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None of this will stop the barrage of criticism aimed at the authorities when they get forecasts wrong - but it is the start of the long and painful journey of trying to get it right. ”

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So scientists are planning a major new research network of moisture indicators - 50-100 devices across the country that would feed real time data on the amount of moisture in the soil.

Similar to a much larger network being rolled out in the US, and Britain's version, known as Cosmos, would cost in the region of £10m.

The rationale is that any flood forecast would be much more accurate if the computer models include not just rainfall and river flow but the level of ground saturation too.

The devices would be so-called cosmic ray moisture probes - small instruments standing about 2m above the ground - which would measure neutron intensity.

Basic physics describes how neutron activity is correlated with the presence of water and each instrument would cover an area of about one square km and down to a depth of about 50 cm.

Prof Jenkins estimates that if the project gets the go-ahead it could improve flood warnings "by several hours".

"Even an additional 2-4 hours of warning can make a big difference - you can get a lot of sandbags out in that time."

None of this will stop the barrage of criticism aimed at the authorities when they get forecasts wrong - but it is the start of the long and painful journey of trying to get it right.

This really matters. The Met Office count of days of extreme rainfall for the past half-century shows a slight increase in the frequency of the heaviest downpours. And warmer air can hold more moisture - which means more rain.

Lives, homes, businesses, travel - there's a lot at stake.

Graphic showing the soil moisture deficit (SMD) across the UK in March and December 2012 Soil moisture deficit (SMD) is the amount of water needed to bring the soil moisture content back to the maximum amount of water the soil can hold. For example, if you had a potted plant and you watered it too much and water leaked out the bottom of the pot, this would be a negative SMD. If you poured in too little water, you would have a positive SMD (the potted plant needs more water). Just enough and the SMD = 0
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  • rate this

    Comment number 151.

    147 BLACK_PEARL - But there was a drought.
    Yes but wern't they forcasting it to continue ?
    I've followed Corbyns mthly forcasts & they are usually close to what actually happens. They are FORCASTS within 80%
    Can the Met Off do this with their models?
    You should buy them & you will see for yourself instead of making off comments
    Quakes I believe hes making an observational link

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    Comment number 150.

    147 BLACK_PEARL - But there was a drought.
    149 - Yes, it would be useful if it could be proven to be reliable. I've yet to see any evidence of that.
    There are numerous videos on YouTube that explain how these sorts of predictions work, some even about earthquakes. Rather apt as Corbyn claims to be able to predict those. He'll use the same tricks for his weather predictions.

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    Comment number 149.

    148.Drunken Hobo
    Corbyn wasn't right though, he was a day out. That means he has at least a 3 day window where he will be classed as "right".
    What sort of reply was that Get real
    Just think for a moment...
    Information of that accuracy would have been most useful to the emergency services to be ready for what was coming around that period.
    Met Office can't get 3 days ahead

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    Comment number 148.

    140. BLACK_PEARL - Booker was something to do with an article on the "BBC 28" that you posted. But never mind, it's not that important.
    Corbyn wasn't right though, he was a day out. That means he has at least a 3 day window where he will be classed as "right". Plus how many predictions has he made that were wrong, but he doesn't boast about? The guy is a con artist.

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    Comment number 147.

    Again most are off topic on their personal 'beliefs'
    Back to the Met Office. Last March they were predicting drought, now its rain. The models aren't working ?
    Every morn on TV we had reporters trolling up & down dried river beds
    quoting " because of climate change"
    Would like the see reporters wading same rivers now using same well worn quote.
    Could make a good comedy sketch

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    Comment number 146.

    Dear Chris, long time no troll!
    So whimsical of you, satire not your strong point dear, must try harder.

    Remember now, floods are serious and shouldn't be used as propaganda for faux religions such as AGW, no matter what the overlords say.

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    Comment number 145.

    the massive weight of evidence suggests otherwise
    Its the massive weight of Govt money & media (we're all in it together)
    that dictates the terms.
    As long as the majority of people are told / believe it to be so then it will be.
    In time (if & when its allowed to be by Big Govt money or we start freezing are buttes off) the truth will out.
    Sim city verse real world

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    Comment number 144.

    Climate change deniers are members of an exclusive club who also still believe:
    sun rotates around the earth
    there is no such thing as evolution
    mankind was created in a single day
    Oh yes, as I've already mentioned, the earth is flat.
    Dangerous, sad, delusional and probably very lonely.

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    Comment number 143.


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    Comment number 142.

    Chim old chap, I already sit on a pedestal looking smug, that's my job.
    Massive weight of evidence you say? Odd, they said that in the seventies about global cooling, some of them the same Alarmists who cry warming now. History can be a hard mistress, but in this case I think science and time will be harsher to the Alarmist acolytes of AGW. Any more underlings want to whinge?

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    Comment number 141.

    Well, this is all very entertaining, I love laughing at the people who think they know best, scream about facts and being nice, then insult everyone who dares to disagree with them.
    I sincerely hope that in 20 years time, people like beesaman will be sitting on their pedestals looking smug. Unfortunately, the massive weight of evidence suggests otherwise

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    Comment number 140.

    137.Drunken Hobo

    135 PEARL - No, I checked , it was indeed you who cited Booker.
    Is this a trick question Hobo... still dont know whar you are taking about.... Booker who ???

    "Corbyn appears to use the same tactic as psychics; hypes up the times he guesses correctly and ignores when he doesn't"

    Hes Pretty dam good at guessing then a month in advance on 28th June flood

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    Comment number 139.

    .48.Math Man
    "I would like to see data on the average drop in temperature that occurs overnight.... about 10 degrees Celsius. If the ... trend ... is decreasing that would offer some direct evidence that green house gasses are increasing"

    You might find this of interest.

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    Comment number 138.

    Hobo, hoist by your own petard, fancy quoting Wikipedia as a source, and you were doing so well. Besides,I don't need to challenge you, you're in a lower league. Keep going though, it's all very entertaining...

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    Comment number 137.

    134 beesaman - What's so odious about that? Even Wikipedia calls it "Climate change denial".
    You've also yet to challenge me, or anyone else for that matter. Insults don't count as "challenging".

    135 PEARL - No, I checked my previous comments, it was indeed you who cited Booker.
    Corbyn appears to use the same tactic as psychics; hypes up the times he guesses correctly and ignores when he doesn't.

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    Comment number 136.

    So one gets Negetive rating for quoting a pure fact
    So people dont like facts or the truth.
    Whats the thinking behind that .... ???

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    Comment number 135.

    127.Drunken Hobo
    126 BLACK_PEARL may be mistaken
    Do'nt know what you're talking about ?????? Mistaken must be..
    Anyway all this stuff is off topic...
    Predicting next big flood is the title.
    The Piers Corbyn guy predicted / forcast the biggest flood to hit the N.East one month in advance. He was only one day out on the main event Thur 28th June.
    Now beat that Met Office.

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    Comment number 134.

    Hobo, you doth protest too much, pot and black cometh to mind or something simpler.

    Get over yourself!

    Or have you never used that odious word, denier?
    See, told you, they don't like being challenged, typical bullies, but oddly welcomed by the BBC...

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    Comment number 133.

    Math Man,
    Your posited question #48 seems a good one. I have had similar thoughts for better ways to measure the effect.

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    Comment number 132.

    128 beesaman - I'd say you've easily been the most insulting poster in this discussion, referring to people as "ecoloons", "alarmists" & "slow witted". You have even begun personal insults on myself by implying I can't think for myself, and acting incredibly patronising in post 130.

    Insults tend to be the last resort of someone losing a debate & you clearly have no interest in being civil.


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