Why do parents buy chickenpox lollies?

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US authorities have warned parents that posting infected lollipops to other families who want their children to get chickenpox is against the law. But why are the parents doing it?

The news that some parents have been apparently posting saliva-soaked tissues and licked lollipops to each other in an attempt to spread chickenpox among their children has been greeted with widespread condemnation.

Doctors have cautioned that licking a supposedly infected lollipop is unlikely to pass on chickenpox - which is mostly an airborne virus - but could expose a child to other, more serious ailments.

And Jerry Martin, US attorney for the Middle District of Tennessee, warned that anyone attempting to send so-called "pox packages" through the mail would be breaking federal laws against shipping biohazards across state lines.

The Facebook page on which parents were discussing "pox packages" - Find a Pox Party In Your Area - has now ceased to exist.

The idea of allowing your child to catch chickenpox - perhaps by taking them to pox parties - to avoid getting it in later life when it can be more serious, is not a new one. But the use of the postal service and social media represents a new phase.

So why do parents do it?

Chickenpox facts

  • Chickenpox is so called to distinguish it from the stronger version of the pox - smallpox
  • Caused by the Varicella zoster virus
  • Spreads through the air and direct contact with fluid from blisters
  • Spots usually appear two-three weeks after contact
  • Thought to number 600,000 cases per year in the UK
  • Vaccination common in many developed countries including US and Germany
  • Complications can include pneumonia and the brain condition encephalitis
  • Once infected, may return as shingles in later life

Meg, who until recently ran a Facebook page called Find a Pox Party Near You, told BBC News: "My son had a life threatening reaction to his vaccinations. He developed chronic encephalitis, seizures and a 105.7-degree temperature. He was never the same after those vaccinations.

"Our children's doctor advised me to never vaccinate my other children because I would run a high risk of them having the same kind of reaction."

She said she had been forced to shut down her page after the backlash over the lollipop story, even though she had carried a prominent warning against sending pox packages through the mail "because we have known that it has been going on for years".

She intends to continue facilitating "pox parties" away from the glare of the media, after compiling a database of interested parents.

In the US, unlike in the UK, children are vaccinated against chickenpox. It is one of nearly a dozen inoculations that American youngsters must undergo - exemptions apart - by the time they reach the age of six.

That's twice as many as their counterparts in the UK, where public concern over childhood vaccines has largely died down after the work of Dr Andrew Wakefield, linking the measles, mumps and rubella (MMR) vaccine to autism, was discredited.

US vaccines (0 to 6 years)

  • Hepatitis B
  • Rotavirus
  • Diptheria, tetanus and acellular pertussis
  • Influenzae type b
  • Pneumococcal
  • Inactivated Poliovirus
  • Influenza
  • Measles, Mumps Rubella
  • Varicella (chickenpox)
  • Hepatitis A

Dr Wakefield was struck off the medical register by the General Medical Council last year after it found him guilty of serious professional misconduct over the way he carried out his research.

It is a different story in the US, however, where a celebrity-driven campaign against vaccines has kept the issue in the public eye.

Movie action hero Chuck Norris is the latest well-known name to weigh in to the debate, in an article for a conservative website.

Some parents object to what they see as the dictatorial nature of the US vaccine programme, which, they argue, leaves them little choice over what is being put into their children's bodies.

Campaigner Robert Schecter, who runs the Facebook group Proud Parents of Unvaccinated Children, claims the pharmaceutical industry is a key driving force behind the growth in childhood immunisation in the US.

UK vaccines (0 to 6 years)

  • Diphtheria, tetanus, pertussis, polio
  • Pneumococcal conjugate
  • Influenzae type b
  • Meningitis C
  • Measles, mumps and rubella

"By no means is it a conspiracy, but there are vested interests working together," he says.

A self-styled libertarian, who ensured his own daughter did not receive any vaccinations, he dismisses public health officials as "paternalistic do-gooders" who "get satisfaction out of what they believe to be helping people" when in fact they are doing no such thing.

Vaccination sceptics like Mr Schecter can produce reams of statistics which they claim show public health officials have exaggerated the seriousness of diseases and "covered-up" safety concerns.

They even dismiss figures from the US Centre for Disease Control and Prevention that cases of measles tripled last year, pointing to the fact that were there still only 220 cases and no deaths. The disease is also on the rise in Europe, where there were 29,000 cases and nine deaths in the first seven months of 2011.

"There is a very great deal of scepticism and questioning out there. Part of it comes from the very great success of vaccination programmes," says infectious diseases expert Dr William Shaffner, of Vanderbilt University School of Medicine, Nashville, Tennessee.

Find A Pox Party Near You Some sites warned against sending 'pox packages' but were still targeted by public anger

"The current generation of young mothers have very little experience of disease.

"Even the experience they have had of chickenpox has been with a much less severe form, with fewer complications. It is seen as a relatively transient illness not worthy of much respect."

But, he argues, chickenpox and measles can both still be very serious diseases, particularly if there are complications.

And he blames the Andrew Wakefield case for undermining public confidence in the US and the UK, even though it is a decade since the MMR scare hit the headlines.

"It is impossible to unring a bell. There are still many people who believe that vaccines and, in particular, the measles vaccine, is linked to autism.

"The whole controversy fuelled a general scepticism about vaccination and a belief that the 'the natural way is the best way'"


And he adds: "The internet plays a substantial role, particularly among upper middle class, young mothers, who are used, in their professional lives, to researching things on their computers.

"Unfortunately, they can not always make a clear distinction between information and misinformation."

The scientists who strived to develop vaccines to common diseases "would be aghast and scratching their heads as they attempted to understand how this extraordinary boon, which along with clean water is one of the most effective public health interventions of the 20th Century, could be denied," says Dr Shaffner.

But, at the same time, he says he does have a "a great deal of sympathy and understanding" for vaccination-weary parents in the United States.

"There is a debate about whether we have come to the limit of what we might call the pincushion effect on children, because there are a lot of jabs."


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    Comment number 106.

    Vaccines carry a very real risk, due to the amount of mercury used in the preservative. Same as fluoride in water (which, thankfully, was turned down flat after Alan Johnson tried to get us to do the same thing a couple of years ago). However, a very small personal risk is nothing compared to the wider risk of contamination if you refuse to accept a vaccination. Stop being paranoid and man up.

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    Comment number 105.

    Vaccines are both dangerous and dodgy. The Medical Professionals get about 3 hours training at Medical School on vaccinations, so on average know less than the average well researched parent. There is no evidence to show that vaccines have helped the general health of the population and plenty of evidence of harm caused by immunisation. I worked for 3 years in Public Health Immunisations.

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    Comment number 104.

    82. chirojupiter
    "...why are those vaccinated afraid of those unvaccinated..."

    They're not. They're afraid for the vulnerable children who are un-vaccinated. If a higher percentage of the whole population is un-vaccinated, then a much higher percentage of the un-vaccinated will catch the disease in question. It's called herd immunity.

    The diseases in question are not just flu-like. They kill.

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    Comment number 103.

    I'm not against ethically produced vaccines.I believe overall they've been a huge blessing to us. However, the chickenpox vaccine is one of several developed from cell lines derived from aborted fetal material.I believe the rubella component of the MMR vaccine was behind a controversy in UK
    schools several years back.


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    This comment was removed because the moderators found it broke the house rules. Explain.

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    Comment number 101.

    82. Maybe you need to do some more research on vaccination. Vaccines are not 100% effective but if works in most people in a community the people it doesn't work in are still protected because the disease can't spread. It's called herd immunity, and it also protects people with weakened immune systems.

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    This comment was removed because the moderators found it broke the house rules. Explain.

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    Comment number 99.


    Now I know you're definately a Wakefield nutter. Where is your EVIDENCE that combo-vaccinations can be attributed to a "heightened risk of reaction"?

    I demand to see your evidence for this baseless and unfounded assertion!
    There are far too many people here talking as though they've gained a PhD in immunology when instead they're more likely to have a mail order degree in astrology

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    Comment number 98.

    I'm still sceptical about the Flu Jab. I had one and subsequently GOT Flu, but it gave me 4 days off work. Are there any 'longer lasting' ailments for which I can get a jab or perhaps a Lollipop ?

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    Comment number 97.

    Children who react badly to illnesses may be just as likely to react badly to the vaccination given to them, so where was the help or safeness?Medicine dismiss those who are ill or die after vaccinations as insignificant as long as the majority survive.How satisfying is that to the parents of the affected child?It's like Russian roulette.I also see many friends with cancer,MS,motor-neuron, a link?

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    Comment number 96.

    If you vaccinate then there are risks and if you do not vaccinate then there are risks. But the risks are much lower if you vaccinate. I'm born abroad and have a totally different approach. My boy had vaccines for Hep B & TB. Wanted to give Rotavirus too but could not find anywhere in the UK.He will also have Hep A and Varicella next year.Not having Hep B antibodies is a very big risk these days.

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    Comment number 95.

    @82 - the vaccinated often have children who are too young or are unable to be vaccinated. This is why vaccination dodgers make them nervous.

    My daughter was premature and at serious risk from these diseases. But I suppose that doesn't matter, as long as nothing happened to YOU.

    Chicken pox parties do make me wince and lollies? Sick. Not convinced of the need for a jab for it though.

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    Comment number 94.

    85.David Cohen

    "The most likely reason that anyone will die from Chicken Pox is if they take an Aspirin. This is not as well known as it should be"

    A quick trawl through the internet tells me this one's in fact true.

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    Comment number 93.

    As a child we would share sweets between us, chewing gum etc., and drinks. I have a cast iron immune system and rarely fall unwel.

    Today children hardly leave their homes - they don't know the hardship of the post war Britain of the 50 & 60's. Hull was then my home. We had nothing elaborate at all. Sweets were at a premium - hence why you would get a handful of us sharing one large gob stopper!

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    Comment number 92.

    Tim: "But chicken pox? A disease with only extremely rare complications in youth, contagious enough for nearly all children to catch."

    Chicken pox kills 25 people a year in the UK, according to the Office for National Statistics. Adults accounted for 81% of deaths.

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    Comment number 91.

    I think there should be a mention of the difficulties some USA funded vaccination programs are having in the modern era due to massive widespread anti-USA propoganda.

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    Comment number 90.

    I'm against multi-vaccinations and cannot understand why kids should be subjected to multi-viruses which would never happen in nature and heightens the risks of reaction.If you know your kid reacts you will not risk it,but then have no other choice as govts and pharmaceutical Co's have closed the doors on single dose vaccinations:more due to cost as less visits to doctors,rather than less pain.

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    Comment number 89.

    As a child I wondered whether "German Measles" was something the Nazis had introduced, but in this "PC" era nobody has campaigned against such a label. My Parents were told to stick me in a roomful of other Kids who had contracted epidemic parotitis - or Mumps - as it is more commonly known. I've never had Mumps, but have always been wary of the possibility & the consequences.

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    Comment number 88.

    79. Agree, Spacegirl. German Measles causes blindness and brain damage in the unborn. I developed a rash when pregnant in 1994 with my son and was terrified. Waiting for my immunity to be confirmed was so scary, even though my mum was pretty sure I had caught German Measles as a kid. Those who don't vaccinate their kids for that one in particular are putting others unnecessarily at risk.

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    Comment number 87.

    @lottielous (76) I never understand why some people seem to think that being a parent makes them a better authority of immunology and virology than professionals who have spent their working lives studying the subject.


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