Let's talk about alcohol - the new birds and the bees

Cast of BBC series Outnumbered The current guidance says that an alcohol free childhood is best

Parents are being asked in a new campaign to do more to delay their child's "first drink". But how do you start the conversation about alcohol?

Talking about the birds and the bees is something many parents dread.

But now it's not just sex, parents are expected to give their children a pep talk on a raft of modern hazards from gangs to obesity to internet chat rooms. And one old vice - alcohol - has become a pressing subject for parents in the age of the alcopop and teenage binge drinking.

"Why do Mummy and Daddy drink wine?" is not an easy question to answer. So how should you introduce alcohol to your child?

Offer them a sip of watered-down wine and a chat about its potent effects? Or cut your own intake, prohibit them from tasting it, and warn of its addictive properties?

A survey by Drinkaware, a charity funded by the drinks industry, and the website Mumsnet, shows that only 17% of parents have a planned conversation with their child about the perils of alcohol. Four out of five of those surveyed said they will "deal with it when it happens".

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If you wouldn't offer your own child a cigarette then I don't know why you would offer them a drink ”

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That may be too late says Virginia Ironside, the Independent's agony aunt. As with sex, parents need to prepare their children for alcohol before they begin experimenting. And as long as they pitch the conversation at the right level, the younger they talk about it the better, she believes. A truthful approach is the best. "Tell them that it's nice to have a bit and jolly dangerous to have a lot," she says.

A good approach is to point out drunk people in the street so that they can see alcohol's destructive effect, she says. But what if your four year-old asks you what that red liquid is in your wine glass? "You tell them you're drinking wine but that you don't drink too much of it because otherwise you'll get drunk," she advises.

While it's against the law in the UK to buy alcohol for those aged under 18, it is legal for children to drink at home or at a friend's house, the government's DirectGov website explains. So in theory parents are quite within their rights to offer an 11-year-old a sip of beer or a watered-down glass of Rioja.

But is this the right way to go? After years of being told that the French and Italian approach of letting children acclimatise to alcohol in a family setting, the tide is turning against childhood wine tasting.

Start with the hard facts

Maureen Macneill is a Canadian mother-of-two living in Vienna, Austria, with two daughters. Her eldest is 10 and the topic of drinking hasn't been broached yet. "She is interested in tasting and trying my beer. I try to make it clear that it is a 'no no' for children because it's very bad for child development."

Her daughter has just started secondary school in Austria, and "is being exposed to what teenagers are doing. I think drinking and sex will come up at the same time in the next months".

Maureen plans to start with the hard facts: "I'll talk about what heavy drinking does to the brain - and then probably move on to peer pressure. I'm not sure if I want to give her an incentive - no alcohol until 21 and she'll get 5,000 euros or something like that. Or I'll let her have a glass of wine with supper at 16, because that's the legal age here."

In 2009, Sir Liam Donaldson, England's chief medical officer at the time, said that children aged under 15 should never drink alcohol. He based his findings on research suggesting that the earlier children began drinking, the greater the chances they would develop a drink problem.

Last year NHS statistics showed that 55% of 11 to 15-year-olds have never drunk alcohol, an increase on previous years.

Liz Fraser, author of the Yummy Mummy's Survival Guide, says parents need to think about their own drinking. She and her husband gave up alcohol during the week once their children became old enough to become aware of their surroundings.

"If children grow up in a household where a bottle of wine is finished off every night they'll think that's OK. And most health professionals would say it isn't." And it would be "ghastly" for your children to see you drunk, she says.

So at what point is it acceptable to offer your child a glass of wine? For Fraser, whose eldest daughter is 13, it's almost inconceivable. "I can't even think it'll ever happen. If you wouldn't offer your own child a cigarette then I don't know why you would offer them a drink or drugs."

The first time she can imagine handing her daughter a glass of wine would be after she'd started university.

The government recommends that 15 to 17-year-olds drink no more than once a week, and only under adult supervision. For some the health message has gone too far and fails to take account of the different ways that children can be introduced to alcohol.

Generic image of a teenager drinking Alcohol is a ubiquitous social lubricant

Frank Furedi, author of Paranoid Parenting, says he allows his 12-year-old son a "few drops of wine" with his Sunday meal. "The key thing is not to see it as an illegal drug. You explain what's good for adults and what's appropriate for children."

For too long the British approach has been one of two extremes - to keep alcohol as a secret from children or to let them have a free-for-all with no supervision. Far better that parents are setting a good example, he argues. "If children see their parents having a bottle of wine with their evening meal they'll realise it isn't just something you do to get plastered."

You need to back your action up with words, says Carrie Longton, co-founder of Mumsnet. Occasionally it may be worth admitting to one's own failings, such as when you have a terrible hangover, she says. But there is also something to be said for scaring your child about the dangers of drink, she argues.

What had most impact on her 12-year-old daughter was when she told her something she had read on Mumsnet about a drunk teenage girl who died surrounded by her friends after choking on her own vomit.

Do as I say not as I did

Erica (not her real name) lives in Brighton with her two daughters. The eldest is 11.

"I was shocked that one of her friend's parents allowed her to drink alcopops." She hasn't sat down to talk about drinking with her daughter yet but plans to soon.

"I went through a period of drinking too much a few years ago when I was really stressed, and she saw me being sick and that really scared her. She doesn't like me drinking in front of her and in fact I've stopped now, I hope that has put her off."

Erica says when she was 12 or 13 there was a lot of peer pressure to drink and her parents would buy her and her friends alcohol. "I remember getting terrible hangovers and drinking too much. I don't want my daughter to do the same."

Longton admits the story may be apocryphal but says it is a useful way of getting the message across. "You use whatever tactics you can to keep your child safe."

Ironside strongly disagrees about exaggerating the risks. "They'll never believe anything you say again," she says. "They'll soon find friends who have been to hospital after having their stomach pumped and come out fine. It's like saying that after one puff of a joint you're addicted."

It's right that parents talk to their children about alcohol, says Times columnist David Aaronovitch. But it might not do much good. His youngest daughter, 14, has been to two parties recently that had to be stopped because of drunken behaviour and people being sick.

It's a reminder that your children are going to be mixing with lots of other people's children in a world that will often be beyond your control.

"I think it really depends on what kind of peer group your child is socialising with, also on their personality, and then just luck. Could anything have really stopped Amy Winehouse's slide into addiction?"


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    Comment number 417.

    My parents allowed my siblings and I to have alcohol if wanted and the result is we all know our limits, were never in trouble with the law for underage drinking on streets (very common in my area) and didn't have to sneak around and lie about it. And none of us have a drink problem.
    Stopping kids having alcohol only makes it more tempting, they'll find a way and it will be a lot more unsafe.

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    Comment number 416.

    This is all very la di da, but FACT is, is that MOST kids with severe alcohol problems are those kids who have been messed over by adults, mentally/physically & sexually violated.

    With ALL the messed up kids drinking, there is BOUND to be overlap & domino effect with other kids getting involved with them & gaining drinking habits.

    This report is very childish & doesnt even TOUCH on REALITY

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    Comment number 415.

    With the amount of kids being abused by parents, sexually/physically/mentally or used for sex slaves by gangs people need to wake up why so many messed up kids drink & behave attrociously.

    If UK wasnt such a despicable place for so many kids & basically still largely sweeps child problems under the carpet & endemically fails to deal with attrocious parents, then MANY kids wouldnt NEED to drink

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    Comment number 414.

    One thing I dont understand is where kids get the money from to buy alcohol. We are talking teens right? so how have they got that much money? they are in school or college (wishful thinking) so how come they can afford alcohol? I couldnt at that age, same with cigarettes... either they steal or they have too much pocket money.

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    Comment number 413.

    This is precisely what pubs are for! I believe in introducing children to drinking in a proper social situation not @home with 20 bottles for £10 from the supermarket. If kids see you drinking moderately/appropriately throughout their life then when they are in that situation habit will kick in. Worse thing possible is to deny/make it a bad thing or rebellion follows. Use your local! :-)


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