Labour had a very good result in Lancashire, making a substantial 23 gains. But when the result was announced, there was little celebration because Labour had been hoping to regain control.
The Tories too were downcast, expecting to have done better. They are still just four seats behind Labour, and Geoff Driver remains leader of the council for now.
Joe Anderson is an outspoken council leader but this is a particularly stark warning. In effect the mayor is saying the government's cuts will lead to rioting, violence and injury on the streets of Liverpool.
It is true the big cities have been hit hardest by the cuts. This is partly because they are more reliant than other areas on direct government funding, rather than local council tax payers.
It's taken 23 years of campaigning for governments to be forced to take the injustice of the Hillsborough tragedy as seriously as this.
But the mass of evidence, disclosures and revelations was enough to get the full apology from David Cameron that the families have wanted desperately for so long.
Nobody can be certain how an elected police commissioner will affect Merseyside and other forces, but already party politics is being injected into policing and some will be uncomfortable with that.
Commissioners will have to swear an oath of impartiality. But it is striking that Jane Kennedy sees herself as a potential Labour police commissioner, not a politically neutral one.
Hustings are nothing new. But this election is. It is the first time voters in Salford have the chance to decide who runs the council in the new post of city mayor.
There is plenty of choice across the political spectrum from Left to Right. The major parties, minor parties and independents are well represented.
On Tuesday, at three BAE sites, workers will be told the grim news.
Workers may well be shocked, having assumed that the uncertainty of the government's defence review was behind them. But there is a longer-term problem of fewer Typhoons being ordered than expected. BAE is hoping to win new export deals shortly to countries including Malaysia, India, Oman, Saudi Arabia and Japan.
The Boundary Commission's focus on equalising the size of constituencies, rather than maintaining historic links, is what's led it to propose some very unusual constituencies.
The North West will have 66 seats, compared to 72 at present, it's more if you include all of Cumbria. Only seven are totally untouched.
You would think politicians would be extremely cautious when it comes to expenses.
But on Tuesday the Labour chairman of the Greater Manchester Fire Authority, Fred Walker, announced he would be stepping down after a row over his travel costs.
A deceptively simple narrative has emerged to mark this year's local election results: the Liberal Democrats did very badly, Labour did quite well and the Conservatives escaped.
But it's not quite so simple in the North West. And since the region is a key general election battleground, the national parties should be taking note.
Arif Ansari is the BBC's political editor in the North West of England.
He's worked for the BBC for just over 10 years.
After starting his career in local radio, Arif spent seven years working as a political reporter at Westminster. He has covered the last three general elections and interviewed all the major party leaders.
Arif was born in Crosby, Liverpool and is enjoying reporting politics back on home territory.
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