Lloyds admits PPI payout lapses

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In a week when MPs and Lords are finalising a report on how to improve standards in banking, it is embarrassing for Lloyds that it has been accused of failing to show due care when processing complaints from customers who say they were mis-sold PPI credit insurance.

A reporter from the Times newspaper who went undercover at one of Lloyds' complaints handling centres, Royal Mint Court in London, says he was nudged to ignore possible fraud by Lloyds salesmen and also steered that most complainants would give up if rejected first time.

The regulator, the Financial Conduct Authority (FCA), told me it has been working with Lloyds to address the issues raised by the Times.

Lloyds insists that independently of the investigation it identified shortcomings - or what it calls "issues" - in the complaints handling centre, which is one of eight it operates.

In fact it says it already had concerns by around February this year, before the Times reporter signed up for a job there, and it was taking a look at procedures.

That may be so. And the FCA says it has been working with Lloyds on this for some time.

£4.3bn compensation bill

But it rather begs the question why it has taken many weeks for Lloyds to get to the bottom of what was going on and take action.

It also doesn't explain why the staff at the centre felt motivated to depart from best practice.

The centre was operated for Lloyds by the leading accounting firm, Deloitte. Lloyds said it terminated its contract with Deloitte in May and is retraining relevant staff.

To date Lloyds has paid out £4.3bn in compensation to 1.3 million customers who were victims of PPI mis-selling.

All banks have paid out far more in PPI compensation than they initially expected - and Lloyds is by far the biggest compensation payer.

In 2011, it pulled out of legal action taken with other banks to contest the regulators' insistence that compensation would be paid and it was the first bank to make big provisions against the cost of such compensation.

Lloyds says it has no evidence of shortcomings at its seven other complaints handling centres.

The bank insists that whatever went wrong at Royal Mint Court was not due to inappropriate incentives given to staff there.

As for the FCA, it is reviewing the way all banks handle and process PPI complaints, on top of its specific work with Lloyds.

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    Comment number 224.

    Is Antonio Horta Osario's rhetoric beginning to be found out. He pontificates loudly about bankers needing to be different and to be aligned with the public mood. The reality this ongoing PPI shambles, a £1.3Million pay package for his PR man Matt Young and he introduces an LTIP scheme where half the rewards are based on internal not external measures. Sounds like same old banker in reality.

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    Comment number 223.

    Not everyone had a choice i only found out last year that out of 6 loans i had with Lloyds 5 of them had PPI against them. Lloyds told me in October last year that i was not misold PPI i appealed their decision in November to which i then had a phone call in February from Lloyds after calling many times i was then told in April they had overturned their decision and guess what i am still waiting

  • rate this

    Comment number 222.

    hah, my comment was removed because I'm not allowed to name the criminals responsible for the great crash of 2008. These crooks are running around scott free, the BBC aiding and abbetting them, the banking scandal of the century goes totally unreported by the BBC. This place is a joke.

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    Comment number 221.

    I'm not saying anyone who took out PPI insurance is foolish - the banks pushed it on you really hard when you took out a loan. I'm guilty of not reading the small-print but even I worked out this insurance was rubbish and that it would add substantially to my repayments.

    I think people need to take responsibility if they chose to take it out.

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    Comment number 220.

    As for the nuisance phone calls send these companies a bill for wasting your time.
    £50 per hour or part thereof.

  • Comment number 219.

    This comment was removed because the moderators found it broke the house rules. Explain.

  • Comment number 218.

    This comment was removed because the moderators found it broke the house rules. Explain.

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    Comment number 217.

    This is a culture issue and that is lead from the top down. In my opinion heads should role as the culture does not appear to have moved on at all. Not a great believer in change for change sake I think this is an occasion where it should be demanded. For a bank is built on trust and our banks are proving themselves untrustworthy time after time. A stand must be taken and taken now!!!!!!

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    Comment number 216.

    And whats far worse for us public plebs than PPI ?


    Totally been miss-sold CO2 energy policy
    Get your claims in now

  • rate this

    Comment number 215.

    You'd have your own money back plus a bit of interest. So basically a savings account with crappy interest that you couldn't access. A sure fire winner right there...

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    Comment number 214.

    206.Universityoflife What is different about a bank salesman?
    They are LICENSED by the gov.
    They are REGULATED by the gov.
    Anyone can sell you a car.
    The do not, by law have to be a member of the medieval guild now called a "profession".

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    Comment number 213.

    207. SeeDubya
    "The point about PPI is that this con trick was perpetrated at a time when people still, foolishly it transpires, trusted banks."

    Oh, that means I'm not "people," I've *never* trusted banks.

    At the end of the day this whole PPI thing is a joke, a storm in a teacup, a distraction from the real banking scam of the century that caused the great crash of 2007/2008.

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    Comment number 212.

    201.purple PPI -impossible to claim successfully,
    Which is why I say - report theft. Court sequesters all bank financial records.
    Premiums received and amount paid out to claimants.
    Ten to one ratio is THEFT.

  • Comment number 211.

    This comment was removed because the moderators found it broke the house rules. Explain.

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    Comment number 210.

    Dear Banks,

    Please could you sort this PPI mess out asap so the parasitical claim "companies" stop cold calling me, texting me, and e-mailing me.

    I've never borrowed a bean in my life!

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    Comment number 209.

    Here is the lesson of the last five years financial shipwreck and the stupidity of removing taxation from profit optimisation of stock and share trading since 2000 (see#181)

    During financial and banking crisis, eliminate profit until the economy stabilises. Things turn around faster than a frog up a pump

    Damaged financial institutions should be passed into administration.
    Punish do not protect

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    Comment number 208.

    ..from a used car salesman you will get ripped off.
    What is different about a bank salesman?
    Used car salesman have a (justifiably) bad name for years in bending the truth.
    Bank tellers and managers had a much a suitable reputation for trustworthiness at the time of Mass Scale Fraud. Their reputation is in shreds - due to their senior bosses greed for bonuses

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    Comment number 207.

    The point about PPI is that this con trick was perpetrated at a time when people still, foolishly it transpires, trusted banks. Obviously, now that we know that bankers are thieving, lying con-artists, only out to line their own pockets, this kind of scam probably won't work again.

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    Comment number 206.

    @204. M_T_Wallet
    "People were told deliberate lies. They had to take PPI (lie No. 1) even if they didn't qualify for the product (lie No. 2) and the insurance would not have been paid (lie No.3)"

    If you accept statements at face value from a used car salesman you will get ripped off.
    What is different about a bank salesman?

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    Comment number 205.

    Beyond the cynical business of making money, lies corporations in particular, serving shareholders as excuse to avoid tax on earnings. Corporations do business here because they want access to the market. If they do not wish to pay tax on money earnt here, they should operate at cost without profit and cut their prices. This will rapidly improve living standards and turn the economy around.


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