30 seconds over Syria: Iran talks must be expanded

John Kerry speaks at the US State Department in Washington, DC, on November 20. John Kerry said Geneva negotiators were not having "a geopolitical conversation right now"

From the hyperventilating Saudis, to the furious Israelis, to understanding Tuesday's tragic twin bombing in Beirut, it is all about Tehran these days.

A third round of nuclear talks with Iran is now under way in Geneva. President Barack Obama said it was unclear if a deal would be reached this weekend, but one thing is certain: the ongoing negotiations in a luxurious Geneva hotel and the prospect of a deal are roiling the whole Middle East.

There is no way of telling if there is a direct connection between the Geneva talks and the attack on the Iranian embassy in Lebanon, which has killed at least 22 people, but the violence is a manifestation of the deep fault lines running through the region.

Syria is a proxy battleground between Iran, Hezbollah and Russia on one side and the Gulf monarchies, the US and the West on the other.

While it is too early to envision how a nuclear agreement could transform the relationship between the US and Iran, I've been struck by how little US officials have to say, certainly in public, about the effect that progress with Iran could have on the region.

Ten days ago, I was travelling with Secretary of State John Kerry when he unexpectedly changed his itinerary and flew to Geneva to join the second round of negotiations. There was no deal in the end, but America and Iran had talked more in 30 hours than they had in the previous 30 years.

When I interviewed Mr Kerry a day later about the possible wider impact of the talks, he said: "We're not having a geopolitical conversation right now.''

I pressed further, asking how a nuclear deal could affect efforts to solve the conflict in Syria. He replied: "I don't think anybody has any idea."

Mr Kerry also said the conflict in Syria was only a 30-second discussion with Iranian Foreign Minister Javad Zarif. Surely Syria deserves more than that.

In the past, the US, and the rest of the UN Security Council permanent members plus Germany (P5+1) have rejected efforts by Iran to include all sorts of random items on the agenda of nuclear talks, from Afghanistan to anti-narcotic efforts. They saw Iran's approach as a way of diluting the process and dragging out the negotiations while centrifuges were spinning, so the six powers insisted that the focus remain squarely on the controversial nuclear programme.

Today Iran is only talking plutonium and uranium in Geneva, but the US decision to stick to its "nuclear only" position is at odds with the changed context in which these talks are taking place.

Officials meet at the latest session of talks in Geneva on Iran's nuclear programme. Talks between the US and Iran must address the Syrian civil war

First, Syria is collapsing and the Middle East is coming apart (yes, again, as usual, but it really is worse than ever). Second, Mahmoud Ahmadinejad is no longer president, and the current Iranian leadership is probably the best the world is going to see for a while.

No-one knows for sure yet whether Iranian President Hassan Rouhani and Supreme Leader Ayatollah Ali Khamenei are considering a shift in their regional calculations. And in the US, there are deep divisions and differences of opinions within the Obama administration about how to engage Iran in a wider conversation about the region and what the possible outcomes, dangers or benefits might be.

Discussing Syria with Iran for only 30 seconds, however, while Iranian Revolutionary Guards are fighting side by side with Syrian troops, is not tenable for much longer, certainly not past the day when an interim deal is reached.



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    Comment number 39.

    Kerry is again on his way to the Geneva talks.

    "and the current Iranian leadership is probably the best the world is going to see for a while."

    --and everybody knows it.

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    Comment number 38.

    I figure it's good to work on international problems one step at a time -- if people can agree to take one step on one issue, then maybe all other issues will be a bit easier to solve tomorrow.

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    Comment number 37.

    This article is plain juvenile. It typifies the shallow mediocrity one can expect nowadays from the BBC. Syria has nothing to do with the Iranian nuclear weapons programme. The Civil War is a battle of survival for the Alawite regime and to a lesser extent the Alawite community. The main outside involvement is from Hizballah on the regime side and from foreign jihadis on the rebel side.

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    Comment number 36.

    Bush41 wrecked Saddam who had Iran contained - Iran is now nuclear
    and Iraq is a basket-case - US policy in the ME has been juvenile and expensive to say the least - one cannot expect western-style democracy to work with tribes that are thousands of years behind on the evolutionary ladder - under Islam they will keep killing each other no matter what incentives we might offer - let them finish it

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    Comment number 35.

    The Middle East hasenough problems. We do not need countries fighting
    each other.

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    Comment number 34.

    #2 Andy English

    "US policy on Egypt & Israel means nobody in the Middle East trusts the USA as it abandons friends."

    --and spies on the others.

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    Comment number 33.

    This report is one of many this week that shows the conflict in Syria has morphed into a proxy war for outsiders.
    We analyzed it today in
    Tangled web ensnares fighters from many countries
    The different groups are aligning with the region’s two most prominent powers – Iran and Saudi Arabia.

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    Comment number 32.

    AndyE: wants to do a deal with those who chant "death to America"

    How can you make a deal with people who want to harm you and destroy your country?

    Iran's Supreme Leader called Jewish people and Israel rabid dogs
    which means they are less than human to Iran

    AndyE: US policy on Egypt & Israel means nobody in the Middle East trusts the USA as it abandons friends

    Nobody trusts Obama

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    Comment number 31.

    Iran and Syria will never be allies of the west and the quicker we just accept that the easier things will be. If we can just settle for living on the earth without getting in each other's space that could suffice.The minute we start having talks, pretending and lying, then we are heading for trouble.

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    Comment number 30.

    Dealing with the nuclear issue is hard enough. If other subjects such as Syria are also to be included then there will never be resolution of the disputes.

    As for Syria, contrary to what is stated in this article, Iranian Revolutionary Guards are NOT fighting in Syria. They has some small number of advisors, but they are not actual fighters.

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    Comment number 29.

    #25 Solomon

    "blogging on behalf of the mad mullahs." ?

    -- and you --the mad Rabbis ?

    Both Iran and Israel are Theocracies --when it suits them.

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    Comment number 28.

    #22 Jack Daniels

    "Nuke 'em Bibi "

    --What is that for nonsense ?

    -- Get off the bottle and think -- for a while.

    The enemy of your enemy --you want to Nuke´????

    The West cant´t manage it on their own --10 years of war everywhere has shown that to all -- except to yourself ?

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    Comment number 27.

    @ 23 - Paul

    "" .... Lets get one thing clear- weeks ago the US had its finger on the trigger for a pre-planned war in Syria using CIA ..... a reaction to allow force- it backfired. It was clear the US wanted Syria to base troops to surround and attack Iran. ... ""

    Wrong - Obama has no right to 'declare' war on anyone - that requires Congressional approval - he has been incompetent from day-one

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    Comment number 26.

    No war - stop trying America - under any pretexts

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    Comment number 25.

    Here we go again... America and Israel bashing. so predictable. maybe the high rated comments are actually Iranian agents blogging on behalf of the mad mullahs. There is no defence for this oppressive evil regime. The only thing that some of the posters on here have in common with Iran, is anti Semitism .

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    Comment number 24.

    Iran is the ´only game in town´-- the sooner its is accepted-- the better it will be for all.

    -- The West has failed to stop Sunni extremism Al Queda etc.) without Iran on its side.

    WE beggars are not choosers --and have no other options --to save our own skin !

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    Comment number 23.

    Lets get one thing clear- weeks ago the US had its finger on the trigger for a pre-planned war in Syria using CIA personnel to launch chemical weapons, to create a public reaction to allow force- it backfired. It was clear the US wanted Syria to base troops to surround and attack Iran.

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    Comment number 22.

    @ 19. - BluesBerry

    "" ....Israeli PM Netanyahu reacted with apoplectic opposition: “This is a very bad deal & Israel utterly rejects it…. Israel will do everything it needs to do to defend itself''
    Kerry parachuted in; I guess to support Israel.
    Who invited Israel to P5+1?...""

    Israel has every right to take proactive action against Iran
    Nuke 'em Bibi - Kerry is Obama's puppet & pro Iran

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    Comment number 21.

    We have to look at empirical evidence:

    Alqaida (salafi sunni extremists) was created by US to fight Red Army

    There was no alqaida in Iraq, US transplanted them there

    There was no alqaida in Libya, UK/France transplanted them there

    There was no alqaida in Syria, US/UK transplanted, funded, armed and trained them there

    Iran will not allow western created/supported alqaida to win and rule Iran.

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    Comment number 20.

    I have been following Kim Ghattas reporting from Beirut, Lebanon, up to US State Department in Washington D.C., with former Secretary of State, Hilary Clinton, and John Kerry. She is just consummate reporter on the Middle East


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