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Rachel Reeves on Labour's Universal Credit plans

Labour will "get the cost of social security under control" said the shadow work and pensions secretary.

Rachel Reeves said Labour would take a "hard-headed" look at the Universal Credit plan, and that social security spending in the current parliament was going to be higher than the government had set out.

She told Andrew Neil: "Labour are the party of work, we are not the party of welfare."

They also discussed polling for the party and its leader.

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