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New air conditioned Tube train

New trains will have air conditioning

Big fans of the Tube

Huge fans are to be installed at stations on the Tube as part of a long-term plan to introduce air conditioned trains on some lines from 2010, London Underground has announced.

Industrial-sized fans will be used to improve station air flow this summer.

About 40 fans will be installed at stations including Charing Cross, Bond Street and Bank.

"The London Underground's Victorian heritage is its charm and its burden"

Tim O'Toole, MD of London Underground

New trains

The move is part of an ongoing plan to cool the network trains, with air conditioned trains on "surface" lines such as the Circle, District and Metropolitan due to be in service in about two years.

But transport bosses said cooling the Tube remained a major challenge, on deeper lines such as the Northern and Piccadilly lines.

Other plans

In addition, a large number of station ventilation shafts and fans are being brought back into service. So far 50 such fans have been renewed.

A scheme in which pumped-out water is used to cool platforms at Victoria Tube station is being repeated this summer.

London Underground managing director Tim O'Toole said cooling the Tube was "a major and long-term engineering challenge".

"The London Underground's Victorian heritage is its charm and its burden," he said.

"Today the Tube carries over a billion passengers a year and as passenger demand continues to grow, so does the need to increase capacity and upgrade the network."

last updated: 25/06/2008 at 11:43
created: 24/06/2008

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Eden
Whats the point in asking everyone to donate money and stop using so much electricity when the underground waste so much on things that most people if not all people below this comment think is a compltete waste!

laura
we need air con.NOW!!!

Aimie
I'm going to agree with Ritchie, and the fact that people stink at 7.00 in the morning is disgusting but thats besides the point. The tubes need some serious work and money invested to attain a half comfortable commute. I also believe that the mirror bus service would be a great benefit while thes works are seen to. But at the same time the buses aren't that much better, but really we can't expect leather seats and fresh airconditioning in the middle of one of the biggest cities public transport systems. Ritchie your right have you ever asked a TFL worker for help or information, they usually give you the same old information 'can't help' or 'I don't know' how is anything expected to run smoothly when you have morons working and operating the whole system!

Ritchie
Same old spin...This story always rears it's head at the start of the warm weather, but I've not noticed any differences since I moved to London 6 years ago.The tube is poorly managed, wasting valuable resources trying to please impossible people like Bob Crowe instead of getting on with the job. As for the Underground's "victorian charm"... I'm afraid to say that when I'm standing on a crowded train or platform with my nose in another person's armpit, I can rarely bring myself to reflect on a few ceramic tiles.

Dr Sumeet Bellara
Air Conditioning is not the solution. It uses loads of eneergy and gereates more heat which needs to then be removed. TFL know what the problem is. It is the friction between the train and the rails during running, including speeding up and slowing down. In addtion the clay in the tunnels hold the heat and then just keep getting hotter. So the tunnels need to be cooled. The tube is this hot even in the winter but most people don't notice it unless they use the deep lines, like the Nothern Line. Putting more trains on will make it worse still. But TFL know they need more faster, bigger trains. they are not ignoring the issue, they are taking a careful approach to maek things better not a quick fix which turns out to be rubbish. Good on them.

Bill Atkins
Even if they do put air conditioning in carriages they will be blocked by the amount of people on the tube. There needs to be a limit of people on the tube, or simply moretrains.

Simon George Spratt
It is about time that something happened about London Underground. The tube is in VERY bad shape, with little being done about the heat generated by travellers.All I can say is that if I were Sir Alan Sugar, I would have raised my finger and told the current lot in Transport for London 'YOU'RE FIRED!!!!!'

Carol
Having just seen your item on air con in the tube I have a suggestion which you might like to pass on to Mr O'Toole at London Underground. FREE FANS!!! During the months of July and August, free fans (the Spanish variety - not battery operated) could be given out to passengers at central London stations during the rush hour. The fans could be made from recycled paper and plastic with the manufacturing costs being covered by revenue gained from companies who may wish to place advertising on the fans! Very cost efficient and eco friendly!

Billy Atkins
Even if they do put air conditioning in carriages they will be blocked by the amount of people on the tube. There needs to be a limit of people on the tube, or simply more trains.

Vic Stoneham
Let us go back 50 years when the tube trains used regenerative braking. This really "green" technique stops most of the heat due to current braking ever being generated in the first place and saves electrical energy as a bonus.Most heat generated is caused by the trains braking at each station.Eliminate this and the Tube would stay much much cooler, and save a huge amount of energy and cost. Maybe they need to spend a few million pounds on a "Consultant" to re-discover this.

Mario Cornelson
Travelling on the Tube and buses in summer is a bad experience. It is hot and smelly. I will be travelling in my car, with my air condition on until the government does something about it.

Andy Johnson
Perhaps you should get your researchers to check out some of the more ludicrous claims of members of the public you interview, before broadcasting them on national TV.I too have lived in the Philippines, and I can guarantee you they have no such thing as the Tube, or anything like it, in any city there including the capital Manila.Believe me, there is nothing good about public transport there.Broadcasting rubbish like that does nothing for your credibility !

Mr Carter
A factory is closed on health and safety ground when the sound exceeds 80 decibels, but the underground runs at 10 decibels. I've taken to wearing noise cancelling headphones, no music, just the noise cancelling.That black dust which is stirred up by the trains is actually fine metal grindings from the wheels and rails and damages paintwork on cars, so is just must be awfully good for your eyes and lungs!

Harriet
Personally, i think that the trains are very hot, and something needs to be done, but without the tube people wouldn't be able to travel around as easily. You travel on the tubes and there are over half the people not carrying bottles of water, which is not good, as they know that the trains are very hot. But to be honest, there is always something wrong with transport, and anything that happens, people will still find faults. dont get me wrong, i think the matter about heat does need to be sorted, but people will never be fully happy.

S Barlow
your item about the tube being hetter than Cairo... how about the busses also? One wonders why the drivers seem to have the heating on full-bore at this time of year? Just had to suffer on a C3 through Earl's Court to Battersea... and this must be a waste of fuel as well... or are the 'effeciant' systems (rarely used in winter) some form of heat exchange system?

Karl, Notting Hill
Go on a bike... I do...

Jeroen Kemperman
This is hardly been revealed now, these trains have been planned and under construction since 2006. The sub-surface lines should be quite easy to implement, it's the deeper tube lines with long tunnel sections that will be a big challenge.

sabs
Bring it on! It would definitely make my commute more bearable over the summer. For the amount we pay on public transport you would expect air conditioning to be the norm.

Bob Goodall
Might there be a Mirror bus service following all the tube lines, and only stopping at or near tube stations, to take the pressure off the tube? Commuters could choose to make the journey Under -or- Overground? The mirror bus service could be introduced quite quickly?

Mrs H
Get a licence london cab safe and friendly and reliable something that LT aspire toogod best londons pride the cabbie!

Simon Monger
Hurrah! At last! It's just a shame that the deeper lines are harder to sort - after all, it's the Piccadilly and Northern Lines that tend to be the worst during the summer months. Still, it is a start...

Lara
I think having air cons on the tube is a great idea but, why all the way in 2010? We need them now!!

ZolaMightyblue
It'll be OK on the platform but then we'll be still stepping into the sweatbox overcrowded carriages

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