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I have lived in Thanet for twenty years. Why not enlarge Manston? Because it is too far from London, where most people want to go, and the present road system could not take the extra traffic.
Bea Pinaffo, Broadstairs

Both Cliffe and Manston are about imported goods which cost jobs, passenger convenience is a red-herring used by developers to justify public money being spent to their advantage. The SERAS report makes a play at justification by using passenger and export cargo figures but says little about imported tonnage. Global markets cost more jobs.
Bernard Clayson, Birchington

I don't think Rachel from Gravesend will find it such a good idea to build the airport at Cliffe when she looks at the maps and finds herself right under the flight path, and only a few miles from touchdown !
Colin, Rochester

A reader asks, "What's wrong with Manston ? It's already built." This epitomises the black and white attitudes that prevail within the airports debate, and prevent sensible discussion. Manston has a runway. It requires substantial further development in order to function effectively as a sub-regional airport. Only today, the Wiggins Group PLC, which runs Manston is quoted, saying they intend to bring forward plans for a passenger terminal to handle up just 1.5 million passengers per year. This wouldn't make much of a dent in the under-capacity figures, which have been presented by the Government in the recent SERAS report. Manston would require huge investment and massive further development to serve as an alternative to Cliffe. So, we have a situation where certain individuals consider it unthinkable to build at Cliffe, but OK to go ahead at Manston, simply because Manston has historically been used for some limited aviation activity.! In other words, it is totally unacceptable to build more airports, for environmental reasons, but that existing airports can be expanded with no environmental concerns whatsoever. Such an argument is perverse, to say the least. Surely environmental concerns should be paramount in the decision-making process, whether we are talking of expanding existing airports, OR creating new ones?
Doug Moon, Gillingham

The whole 'Cliffe Airport' thing, is, I'm sure, a smoke screen (in the short term) to make the necessary expansions of the other South East airports, seem the least damaging route to follow. However, having tabled the 'Cliffe' proposal, you can bet, that in the long term, say 10-15 years, when Joe Public, has got used to the idea,and the objectors have lost their backing due to the length of time involved, it WILL go ahead, no matter what we say.
Doug Moon, Gillingham

It's not a case of being a NIMBY or not. It's a question of enough being enough. Where are we going with all this unchecked development? You can call it progress but does it make anyone really happy? We all seem to want simpler less stressful lives and yet we go along with or demand more and more. It seems obvious to me that the Government has exercised great deviousness and unfairness in the process of planning for airports in the South East and is trying to bulldoze the its plans through... More
Colin Elliott, Cliffe

People should not take too much notice of claims that most people supporting Manston and living in Thanet are Wiggins shareholders. The fact of the matter is that Manston is already built and therefore there would not be anywhere as near as much cost involved, and the benefits to the area far outway any arguement against it. To suggest building a new airport at Cliffe is sheer stupidity. PS I am a Wiggins shareholder, and if Manston is not developed as an airport, it is still worth a fortune should it be used for housing development.
Mandy

What's wrong with Manston - it's already built !!
Mark Wenman, Orpington

Judging by the type of postings from Thanet, most if not all of those supporting the development of Manston over Cliffe appear to be Wiggins shareholders...
Keith, Broadstairs

Unlike the residents of Cliffe, we in Thanet were not given the right or the time to protest BEFORE our local planners decided that Manston would become a commercial airport. I have lived in Thanet for more than 30 years and had rarely been bothered by Manston (usually on air show days, or Concorde taking off). However from the moment that Wiggins moved in I, and I would suggest 75 per cent of the residents of Thanet, have been subjected to intolerable noise levels from aircraft both in our houses and in the streets of Ramsgate etc. It was several months until we found out that our council had allowed a certificate of existing use to be issued to Wiggins, this was done under delegated powers, where the planning authority does not have advertise or to inform anyone of the decisions that they have taken. By the time we found out it was already to late to challenge this decision in the courts. We subsequently managed to bring a later certificate to judicial review but lost on appeal because of the earlier certificate. We also found out that the MOD had commissioned an EIA on Manston, this study (which we have never been allowed to see) ruled out Manston as being suitable to become a major airport on the grounds that it was environmentally compromised by being to close to Ramsgate. Read more >>
David Britton, Ramsgate

With all this talk about building a new airport at Cliffe, and the amount of time and money that will be spent on it, why not use Manston Airport, it is a ready made site and with some alterations it will achieve a less expensive and more efficient place than Cliffe. Also the road link is 100% better than it used to be. Please, can we use Manston instead of Cliffe, we have an employment problem here that could be rectified?
Pam Holness, Birchington

It's stupid that they want to build a airport over important wildlife.
Monkey, the tree

The failure of the BBC to adequately cover the recent anti Cliffe Airport march in Chatham, indicates that the BBC is now, more than ever, merely a organ of Labour Party government propaganda and cannot be trusted to collect and disseminate news on this important issue. Where is impartiality? Where is truth?
Robert Lindley, Tunbridge Wells

Living in Tenterden I can hardly be described as a NIMBY. My objections to the Cliffe Airport concern the south east as a whole. Already 35 million people and three million lorries pass through Kent to and from the Channel crossings. The questions are; can the county cope with the increased traffic, housing and demand on services? Is there sufficient water for the Government's expectation of 80,000 more houses in the area to serve the airport? Will a new river have to be constructed to cope with the run-off from the roofs, roads, hardstands, runways, etc? Will there have to be a M25/2 constructed to cope with the traffic? Finally, why should the south east be expected to act as the 'server' to the rest of the UK, and, is a yet another airport really needed? Are the existing airports really functioning at full capacity?
Bryan James, Tenterden


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