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Sustainability versus a new incinerator

In this Speakers Corner article, Nick Palmer explains why he thinks the incinerator is a bad idea.

Speakers Corner is a feature of bbc.co.uk/jersey that gives users the opportunity to have their say on subjects that matter to them.

They write an article for us, we publish it and then open it up for people to comment and share their own opinions on the original story.

This Speakers Corner article is by Nick Palmer. Over two features Nick looks at the planned incinerator at La Collette, explains why he thinks it is a bad idea and suggests alternatives.

Sustainability versus a new incinerator

This two part article firstly shows why Transport and Technical Services’ (TTS) plan to buy another incinerator is hopelessly inappropriate, as is their recycling target, and sketches out why Jersey needs to pay far more attention to sustainable development than it currently does.

In part two, I suggest smaller, cheaper, much more flexible alternatives to a new incinerator that do not threaten the La Collette skyline or the growth of recycling and also hold out the prospect of revitalising our struggling agricultural industry and shrinking Jersey’s carbon footprint to boot!

TTS have simply stonewalled all the valid arguments put by the Scrutiny panel, myself and others in letters both directly to themselves and Planning and Environment, and also via the JEP, against their favoured option.

Rubbish bins overflowing, Charlton

They threaten us that unless we buy a huge new incinerator soon that the existing one will break down more and more often and it will cost us more because incinerator prices are escalating rapidly.

Clearly they are only thinking and planning within a “waste disposal problem” framework and their recycling target is surely just a concession to the public’s desire to recycle. 

Their prediction that they can achieve a 32 % recycling rate, recently revised to 36% by 2018, is mated with their simplistic, speculative graph of future waste growth rising in a straight line as far as the 2030’s.

Obviously they haven’t noticed that the world has suddenly woken up to the importance of Green matters.

Incinerators are diametrically opposed to any worthwhile environmental strategy to achieve a sustainable civilisation in the future because they depend on the burning of otherwise recyclable material.

Sustainability

Sustainability is the key concept that is missing from their position, and indeed that of the States as a whole. The world needs it and Jersey has committed itself to it but it seems to have been airbrushed out of the picture as far as TTS’s plans are concerned.

Their recycling targets of between 32-36% are simply not good enough. Friends of the Earth reckon that around 80% of waste is currently recyclable let alone what will be achievable in the future as industrial infrastructure and manufacturing methods change.

The Scrutiny panel have also identified much greater recycling possibilities than our modest current efforts. Maximum recycling should be the target to allow people to “learn by doing” what products favour sustainability and what do not.

Knowledgeable purchasing choices will alter market forces to favour sustainability.

No-one should pretend that this will be a short journey and it will probably be filled with many dead ends and reversals but it has taken us over 50 years to get to our current unsustainable position since an American retailing analyst notoriously embraced the birth of consumer culture by claiming that “We need things consumed, burned up, worn out, replaced, and discarded at an ever increasing rate”.

Certainly within the planned lifespan of any new incinerator (30 years plus) society will have changed towards a future that will not create anywhere near as much material for final disposal.

Waste

If we commission a large incinerator it will end up being massively inefficient due to being mostly underused. One lump of coal in a grate doesn’t burn too well!

It may not be immediately clear to people living in Jersey, because of our relatively clean, unpolluted and undamaged landscape, that we have a large impact per person on the World Environment.

Global impact

It is Jersey’s global impact that should be the motivation for recycling and new methods of waste handling if we are ever going to have a hope of achieving a sustainable global civilisation.

An environmental term has been hijacked because sustainability has been represented locally as sustaining the Jersey environment or even just the Jersey economy. This is a dangerously misleading, irresponsible and insular view.

It should be clear that wealthy Jersey’s environmental impact reaches far beyond our shores in the same way that the 5% of the world’s population who live in the US are responsible not just for 25% of the world's greenhouse gas emissions, as some textbooks say, but for probably 50% of them if one includes the energy needed to power the mushrooming Chinese factories that create products to supply the US market.

It is logically certain that current global consumer culture has a “ best before” time limit which will be up when unending and expanding consumption of the resources available to that culture causes those resources to become scarcer and harder to find so that they become priced out of the market and effectively unavailable.

The same goes for the resources of the biosphere, upon which our lives depend. Sustainable development allows us to continue creating wealth and employment without sacrificing the future of the younger generations who, ironically, are amongst those most targeted by the siren voices of ever increasing marketing and consumerism.

I challenge TTS to consider this question – why bother recycling anything at all?

By putting forward their tiny and pointless recycling target of 32% they might as well not bother - there is no point in jumping one third of the way over the gulf towards a sustainable approach – we would be better off just saving the time and money and thereby condemn future generations to resource scarcity a little bit earlier, but just as certainly.

Clearly, TTS still have no fundamental understanding of why they should be recycling at all.

last updated: 28/05/2008 at 15:36
created: 28/05/2008

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Eddie
In Scotland, we have a policy that no more than 25% of MSW is to be used for energy from waste or incineration. According to the Sustainable Development Commission (SDC), as long as certain conditions are complied with (CHP operating at 60% efficiency levels), EfW plants (or incinerators) can be sustainable especially if Combined Heat and Power is used for District Heating (in schools, hospitals, local housing). Combine this with a material recycling facility (MRF) and operating at high levels of environmental and quality standards, and EfW provides a viable waste management solution in the move away from landfill and production of climate damaging CH4. The issue is dealing with the CO2 that is produced and as far as I can see, only implementing a carbon management plan / offsetting strategy would effectively suffice.

Nick Palmer
Scrap is very wrong about volcanoes. Look it up on Wikipaedia. Volcanoes actually put out less than 1% of the CO2 emissions that people do.

Ben
Nick - My point about figures (which you keep failing to understand) is you don't have any! Anybody can argue it's better to be green, because that's obvious. The problem is that's the end of most people's argument. What is needed is a clear outline environmentally and economically stating facts and figures that prove your point - if you can do that then what you're suggesting might actually happen. All you have written so far is just another soap box rant about how we're all killing the planet, which the States will gladly add to the pile and burn!

Nick Palmer
Scrap - you have been fooled by propaganda. Not only is the actual amount of CO2 outgassed by all active volcanoes only about 1 per cent of what humans do (easily checked on Wikipaedia) but also if what you say were true there would be large spikes in the atmospheric concentration of CO2 every time we had a large eruption, such as Mount Pinatubo. The graph of the rise in CO2 is actually a very steady, almost smooth line.

Nick Palmer
Ben - it is FOE's mainland target that is 80%. Jersey's, for the time being, would most likely be less. Your point about costs etc only holds water if you are looking at a very close (5 years'ish) horizon. Sustainable development needs a 30 year+ horizon. Finally pyrolysis/gasification is actually more efficient than incineration at generating electricity!

Mark Chatel
Thanks Nick for continuing to try and make your argument heard. I do not understand how TTS can continue to be so blinkered in regards to environmental sustainability and totally agree that their recycling target is woefully small. Unfortunately I have such little regard for the people in power in Jersey that I feel there will be a lot more work to be done before they come close to seeing sense. Are they just incompetent or is there some hidden agenda?

Scrap
Look where and how do you think all the scrap metals get off the island to be recycled? they have been doing that for years! as for carbon footprints...freight boats have been coming and going from the island for years, whether taking one pound of freight or 1 thousand pounds still uses the same amount of fuel. Anyway volcanoes release more in one eruption of carbon than we have since turn of last century. So i don't buy into this global warming. We've had 2 ice ages, it's warmed from them without 4x4's. Load of government scaring tactics to add on extra tax!

Nick Palmer
joker - the dead ends I refer to are not the technology I outline. Even TTS, in their Waste strategy document, admit that the future of residual waste disposal probably lies with these machines! The "dead ends" refer to a million decisions such as whether it is better to make plastic items out of corn starch or oil, whether all bottles should be returnable to encourage short "drink miles" and help local economies etc etc etc In short, the rough and tumble of a market economy tuned to protect and not deteriorate Earth's non renewable resources

Mycky
Most of the people in power ie Council of Ministers - don't know a thing about the environment and don't care either. The only people I've seen put out a real truly Green environment policy and try to promote it has been the Jersey Democratic Alliance in 2007. Maybe Nick ought to look to them for support because as far as most people I know are concerned they think TTS Minister Deputy Dopey and his Ministerial chums just want the most expensive package they can buy. I wonder why? As in I wonder which company they will use and who might own it?

Saz
The problem with an incinerator in Jersey is that it will always been on someones doorstep.However i for one WOULD like more recycling facilities. i live in one of the tower blocks in St helier and it wouldnt be that much hassle to put some recycling bins where our usual bins are and it would cut waste.

Ben
Nick, your article sounds good, but where are facts and figures.Put the cost of shipping (your target) 80% of the Island's waste, the carbon footprint in doing so and the loss in the electricity supply which could be gain from a new incinerator into your proposal and if it turns out to be the greener and more economical option then I have no argument.Until then... I'll hang on to my silly point.

joker
Nick - you mention dead ends; given the current feeling about the governments expenditure & our inpatients, how many 'dead ends' do you think the government is prepared to stomach given the criticism it is likely to face?If I were the States I would be opting for the sure cost (i.e. certainty) - something they apparently have for the new incinerator.Recent media reports have stated the incinerator is on its last legs. Can we afford to wait for the results of going back to the drawing board?

Nick Palmer
Ben - sorry but it is a silly point. Did you not understand the section (headed "Sustainability") about the market forces impact of maximum recycling as a means of means of engineering a sustainable society? Also the bit about Jersey's impact not being limited to within its shores? Your comment about "what's best for the environment" demonstrates that you have not looked into sustainable strategy deeply enough. Don't be too offended - virtually no-one in authority in Jersey has a clue about this either. This is the main reason why we are faced with Transport and Technical Services favouring a completely inappropriate incinerator - they are ignorant of, or ignoring, the need to think sustainably and unless they are stopped it will end up costing the Island a huge amount of money and eventual international embarrassment

Ben
Silly question but as there is no recycling facilities in Jersey how much do you think it will cost to ship all the recyclable waste off the Island?And how much fuel do you think will be used in transport?Recycling and what's best for the environment don't always go hand in hand.Personally I think a decent incinerator is the way forward...

Give it to Dandara
You can let Dandara recycle it. Like they do now!

Housing
Why not make another reclaimation site and dump all our rubbish there! we've done it before so why not again. Just make sure you get household fire insurance if you buy on that land

Resident of Havre Des Pas
I know why don't we put all the states members in the sea, then they can float away and ruin other peoples lives not just ours!!!!!

Nick Palmer
Seabird - I suppose you're being facetious but really unless we alter our ways to live sustainably, then our, and our children's lives, won't be sustained Q.E.D. If we don't bother to do it right then why should we bother at all - we might as well chuck it all in the sea!

Seabird
As we have a fantastically sweeping tidal range just dump it all in the sea and watch it float away to france and further afield. Problem solved: "Out of sight out of mind!". It's faired Jersey well in the past so why not now

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