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Douglas Bader's MG

by janemark

Contributed by 
janemark
People in story: 
John Atkinson
Location of story: 
Sandhurst
Article ID: 
A2086625
Contributed on: 
27 November 2003

I was 9 when the war started and was the eldest of 5 brothers. We lived in the village of Sandhurst which was very rural then. We used to go through the woods to Blackbushe Airfield to watch the squadrons of Mosquitos taking off for the sortees. Only a few used to return and were mostly badly damaged.

When I started work as an apprentice mechanic for Whites of Cambereley in 1944, Douglas Bader would have his MG sports car serviced there and I used to have the job of 'servicing' his new legs.

It was a long time ago but the memories are still very vivid.

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Message 1 - Douglas Bader

Posted on: 27 November 2003 by Member no. U229957

Dear Janemark,

I am writing a very important story concerning Douglas Bader and you can find this on my website.
If you search for Douglas Bader Enigma you will be taken to my story.

Could I possibly have more details on your story about servicing Bader's MG and "new legs" in 1944 as it may be relative to my story.

For further information you can contact me at rnmedic1945@yahoo.com.au or do this automatically from my website or from my personal page on this site.

Hope to hear from you soon.

Ken Williams

Message 1 - Re: Douglas Bader

Posted on: 28 November 2003 by Peter - WW2 Site Helper

Dear Janemark

Your story is interesting, but could you check the year that you serviced Douglas Bader's legs?

All records show that he was a prisoner of the Germans from 9 August 1941 to the liberation of Colditz Castle on 16 April 1945.

You can see one of many accounts here:

http://www.elknet.pl/acestory/bader/bader.htmAbout links

Regards,
Peter

 

Message 2 - Re: Douglas Bader

Posted on: 02 December 2003 by Member no. U229957

Hello Peter,

It's a bit of a shame that you jumped in here and have queried Janemark's story.

I am desparately tryingt to get in touch with this contributor and hoped to ask him some questions about his story without the blunt assertions you have made about Bader's wartime activities.

May I suggest that you go to Google and search for my DOUGLAS BADER ENIGMA and read my on-going essay.

You will not know this, but I met Bader in LIVERPOOL in 1942 and am doing considerable research on the reasons why he was in England during part of 1942 and not in eirher Colditz or Stalag VIIIB at that particular time - you may find it of some interest.

At the moment a British newspaper will shortly conduct an investigation into my story.

Perhaps, as I have requested the "Official WW2 team" to ask "janemark" to contact me directly he will do so when I can hopefully ask him many questions and get some answers that will solve this whole damn puzzle.

Regards

Ken Williams

 

Message 3 - Re: Douglas Bader

Posted on: 03 December 2003 by Katherine-WW2 Team

Dear Ken,

Thanks for your message here - and also to Peter for his comments. All dialogue is welcome on the site - and I'm glad to see that Janemark's story has attracted so much interest.

best wishes,
Katherine

 

Message 4 - Re: Douglas Bader

Posted on: 09 December 2003 by Member no. U229957

To all who may read this story and wish to challenge the author, please read on.

I have "spoken" personally with the author of this little story and have found him to be both honest and willing to help. His story about meeting Douglas Bader is 100% authentic with the exception that the year was not 1944 but 1945.

Even with the correction to the date the story is most interesting and I intend with the authors approval to feature it on my persoanl web-site.

Ken Williams

 

Message 5 - Re: Douglas Bader

Posted on: 09 December 2003 by Peter - WW2 Site Helper

Ken

If you now re-read my first post to Janemark on this you will see that I said "Your story is interesting, but could you check the year that you serviced Douglas Bader's legs?"

Inexplicably this prompted you to say "It's a bit of a shame that you jumped in here and have queried Janemark's story. I ... hoped to ask him some questions about his story without the blunt assertions you have made about Bader's wartime activities."

You will see that I simply asked him to check the year, without any "blunt assertions". He has now checked it and found that his encounters were in 1945 (presumably post 16 April), and not 1944 when Bader was in Colditz. The reason I asked Janemark to check the year was not to score some cheap points at his expense, but was for the benefit of this site. I am sorry that you misread my intentions.

Kind regards and good luck with your quest,

Peter

 

Message 6 - Re: Douglas Bader

Posted on: 09 December 2003 by Member no. U229957

Peter,

Your above post is a good example of why I am going to observe this site's future developement from a distance.

I believe the following extract from you post is what I consider to be a blunt assertion:-

"All records show that he was a prisoner of the Germans from 9 August 1941 to the liberation of Colditz Castle on 16 April 1945."

I will now make a blunt assertion.

Douglas Bader was NOT a prisoner of the Germans for the FULL period you state, 9 August 1941 to 16 April 1945.

You also say with conviction that ALL records show that he was a prisoner etc,etc - Hmm! a blunt assertion also I believe?

Time will tell about Douglas Bader's covert activities during his time as a "Guest" of the Germans.

Finally, "all records" do not show for example that German "agents" were making regular visits to a small RAF airstrip near Aberdeen and passing information on to the British intelligence. Their final gift to us was the latest model state of the art Junkers 88 night fighter now residing in an RAF museum.

Enjoy your position as a site guide but tread as though you are walking on eggs.

Ken Williams (The final post)

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