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Were you there yesterday/planning to go today?

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Message 1 - posted by Peter Scrivener - BBC Sport (U1644486) , Aug 21, 2006

Hi,

We want to know your thoughts on the debacle that has become the fourth Test between England and Pakistan at the Oval.

If you were there yesterday, what do you make of the events and how they unfolded? Are you happy/did you expect a partial refund on your match ticket?

If you were planning on going today, what's your thoughts? The game was called off pretty late on, how many of you are out of pocket with travel costs?
       

Message 2 - posted by .Back_2_Back. *Au Revoir TMS* (U2647656) , Aug 21, 2006

Hello Peter,
No, I wasn't at the Oval Yesterday.

Thanks,

Back_2_Back

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Message 3 - posted by U4520031 (U4520031) , Aug 21, 2006

Peter what do you think about all this that has happened?

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Message 4 - posted by Uncivilized Poster (U4675419) , Aug 21, 2006

Peter, Do you want to be put in the PreMod state as I have been put into multiple times... what was your real intention of the post that you started with?

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Message 5 - posted by Bradwarden (U3811581) , Aug 21, 2006

I was not at the match (since I live in Canada) and as such I have to pay per match to watch these games on satellite.

But since this is cricket, match cancellations and delays are almost inevitable in any series. Hence no real surprise there.

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Message 6 - posted by pakistan_rulzzz (U4411240) , Aug 21, 2006

I was planning to go to oval ..........thought final day will be intresting to watch, considering the match was poised so evenly...

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Message 7 - posted by Peter Scrivener - BBC Sport (U1644486) , Aug 21, 2006

The intention of the post is to find out what you thought about the events at the Oval if you were there.

If you weren't there, you don't need to get involved with this thread.

And as for my views - it is a sad day for cricket and I think a lack of communication (both on the field and off it) led to the events we saw after tea yesterday.

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Message 8 - posted by .Back_2_Back. *Au Revoir TMS* (U2647656) , Aug 21, 2006

Peter were you at the game yesterday?

What was the feeling amongst the spectators?

I read that there was a 'slowclap' when the Pak team returned to the field?

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Message 9 - posted by Uncivilized Poster (U4675419) , Aug 21, 2006

fair enough, as I dont live their, I WILL keep out of it

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Message 10 - posted by Duniyah Blog & Forum (U3789263) , Aug 21, 2006

peter i was at the oval on friday and after they went off for bad light we were told nothing for over and hour

than meant about 10, 000 fans stayed there for no reason

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Message 11 - posted by Stardust (U1726166) , Aug 21, 2006

Wasn't there but even if I were a paying customer, I wouldn't be that angry. Ok, out of pocket perhaps but when your honour is called into question, you can't just pretend that nothing has happened. Even if they had played, they wouldn't have seen genuine cricket anyway...just a team seething at (alleged) injustice or demoralised by it.

It would have been a farce either way.

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Message 12 - posted by Firey Bad Girl (U2692021) , Aug 21, 2006

I was there yes and no I didn't expect even a partial refund as we had seen well over 4 hours of play which would not mean a refund due to rain.

I saw the whole event unfold including Inzi going off the field during play to presumably discuss events with the hierarchy.

I saw a dealy of some 30 mins after play should have restarted, the umpires come out twice, first time alone and then after a warning to both teams that they would forfeit the match with the 2 England batsmen. After a further approx 20 mins, some 45 mins after play should have re-started, and some slow hand clapping the Pakistan team came out to very very loud booing but by then the umpires had already declared the match forfeited and most people had gone home and a few remained just to see what might happen.

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Message 13, Aug 21, 2006

This posting has been hidden during moderation because it broke the House Rules in some way.

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Message 14 - posted by ChrisWilliams1000 (U2051632) , Aug 21, 2006

I'm surprised that a 40% refund has been given. The crowd saw double the normal cut off point in quality cricket and missed one session, admittedly, but it could be a big blow to the ECB. In comparison I saw the last day of the Edgbaston test against Sri Lanka, which finished shortly after Lunch (it could conceivably have gone on all day if SL had actually put up a fight) yet we got no partial refund (I would really not expect one).

It seems a very noble thing to do, and tbh, I'd rather be there while a ball tampering controversy was unravelling than when play has stopped for bad light or rain (As in the first few days, when probably a similar amount of time was lost).

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Message 15 - posted by piechucker31 (U1810964) , Aug 21, 2006

Peter, I was there, what a horrible mess it was. I had no real idea about the unfolding drama until getting home and seeing the Cricket on Five highlights. My thoughts:

1) I really hope that the umpires got it wrong and there was no actual ball tampering.

2) I think the umpires probably did handle the affair in a rather ham fisted way.

3) Pakistan players were right to feel aggrieved if they were innocent but were foolish to have protested their innocence in the way they did.

4) There seems to have been no damage done to the relations between the England and Pakistan teams and administrations, this is a "silver lining".

5) The fans were treated shabbily and not kept informed at all about what the heck was going on. The fact that this happened in the final session when the drunk idiots were properly drunk and flinging beer sodden newspapers everywhere made it worse. I took my Dad to his first day of Test cricket yesterday, I have to say it wasn't the kind of experience either of us hoped for.

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Message 16 - posted by Smith-Witch (U5164388) , Aug 21, 2006

If I may make response on 2 of piechucker's points:
"when the drunk idiots were properly drunk and flinging beer sodden newspapers everywhere made it worse"
I love my days at cricket, but the mess made by the idiots throwing shredded newspapers during Mexican Waves is one of the things that could put me off. And there is seldom even a warning that offenders might be put out of the ground. But there is the amusement to see the knocking over of spare beers ...

"I took my Dad to his first day of Test cricket yesterday, I have to say it wasn't the kind of experience either of us hoped for"
The first time I took my late father to a Test Match, at Lord's, 20+ years ago, and it rained most of the day. But we had a wonderful day, because the ground announcer spoke to us every 30 minutes - whether anything had changed or not. So (for example) we knew at any stage what time we had before the next deicision - to visit the Museum, or the Shop.

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Message 17 - posted by Firey Bad Girl (U2692021) , Aug 21, 2006

How utterley ridiculous that last statement of yours is.
I had a radio with me and knew exactly what was going on.

The tv screens behind the stands were showing what was happening.

It was clear the game was over when the umpires removed the bails. They were following the rules of the game.

There was less drunken behaviour at this game than at any of the other 4 tests I've attended this year and with the bar being closed for 90 mins after lunch that is obviously going to happen.

The only thing that happened was a couple of fun beer snakes joined up at about 6.16 when there had been no play for over 2.5 hours and obviously wasn't going to be due to the light whatever else was happeneing.
Too many people just like to moan about nothing.
I was Edgbaston on the Saturday and the Sunday vs SL and play didn't even start until 4.45.
I'd have felt much more deserving of a refund then having got totally soaked for 6 hours than I do for yesterday.

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