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Message 1 - posted by Sir ILoveUSA
(U5380858)
, Sep 2, 2006
very good in test cricket but very poor odi cricket..
why?
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Message 2 - posted by Bumblebee_Man
(U1939874)
, Sep 2, 2006
Because the selectors keepi p*ssing around with the one day side! If they just kept the majority of the test side (or possibly all 11?) they would probably win more than they lost!
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Message 3 - posted by shaygood
(U1200084)
, Sep 2, 2006
This is because they don;t value one day cricket as much as they value test cricket, the system is set up to be conducive to help the test team shine. I also think that selection decisions are a little bit mystifying, i would have thought players like harmison, hoggard and panesar would be playing. England also don't score enough runs which makes it difficult for the bowlers and vice versa (replacing runs with wickets).
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Message 4 - posted by thisiscricket
(U5496209)
, Sep 2, 2006
After paksitan being targeted for ball tampering, i think pakistan deserve and shown that they are the still "THE WINNERS"
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Message 5 - posted by Jack__1
(U4675716)
, Sep 2, 2006
No Pinch Hitter.
Not even Aggressive Batsmen in the powerplays.
End of.
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Message 6 - posted by churchofpunk
(U3477578)
, Sep 2, 2006
Harmison would be playing but he's injured. The same goes for Flintoff, Simon Jones and Ashley Giles... Add of of the guys who bowled today and you'd have a decent attack...
Hoggard isn't in the one day team because when he has played he's gotten hammered.
Worryingly though the problem seems to be scoring runs... Admittedly, the team bowling first in both the one dayers so far has had a massive advantage with the conditions... Even so, our top order's repeated failure to score heavily isn't because they aren't good batsmen - with the exception of Tres they all played well in the tests... I
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Message 7 - posted by mak351
(U5430356)
, Sep 2, 2006
With current performance England has a very poor chance of even qualifying to Semifinals in West Indies. Lot of work need to be done to tidy up the batting at the top of the innings specially at power play time. With a strike rate of 75 or less it would be hard to move high on the ladder and to give enough runs to the bowler to get opponets out.
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Message 8 - posted by Saeed Anwar isClass
(U4102997)
, Sep 2, 2006
USA bro, your post made it into the BBC match report. Congrats   This is a reply to this message
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Message 9 - posted by THE_BEEFER_FAN
(U4727750)
, Sep 2, 2006
Hey I Love USA - why are you liking USA so much as you do right now?
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Message 10 - posted by TheCloughWay
(U2297980)
, Sep 2, 2006
Let's get some perspective here. It's not a question of whether they play the One Day or Test format. If you're good at cricket you shouldn't have a problem coping!
The main thing to not is the differences in the Pakistani side they beat and the one they can't. This Pakistan team is now getting somewhere near it's best, that's the difference between England winning and losing!
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Message 11 - posted by ChachaCricket
(U2749221)
, Sep 2, 2006
no offense, but ur last post didnt make sense wat were u trying to say? one advice, when u post read it before u click post message... This is a reply to this message
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Message 12 - posted by Timleo
(U5496625)
, Sep 2, 2006
I think and i would like to code English skipper words which he gave after the loss of test series in Pakistan " Difference between England and Pakistan was Shoiab " and i totally agree Shoiab has shown he was the difference and his absence cost Pakistan test series defeat i am a cricket fan and i like to see good players in action and i would say as long as Shoiab keep bowling the way he is his Pakistan can win against any team and it has nothing to do that England played bad we did good but one man was the difference between the two sides.
Tim.
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Message 13 - posted by Lahore_Express
(U2752063)
, Sep 2, 2006
Good to see Pakistan on the track, hope they will carry on this performance in future Good Luck Pakistan !!!! This is a reply to this message
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Message 14 - posted by HasnainPAK
(U5466688)
, Sep 2, 2006
Welli can say that Pakistan have got there full team strength back. By having there main bowlers back like shoaib Akhtar, Rana Naveed and Mohammed Asif along with the batter Shoaib Malik.
Still England are a very good team i think they could try and get a player which would take wickets which could be Monty Panesar.
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Message 15 - posted by Smally2
(U5460628)
, Sep 2, 2006
Our test team would indeed do well in ODI's.
Panesar can keep it tight, and bat at 11.
Replace Hoggard for Lewis, Gough or Broad or S jones.
And replace Cook for the one of Bell/Collingwood that would miss out when Flintoff comes back.
When there are only 5 specialist bowlers, as in our Test team, then they have no choice other than to do the job. Bell and Colly can fill in.
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Message 16 - posted by JacktheBeard
(U4542379)
, Sep 2, 2006
Trescothick and Pietersen seem to be woefully out of form right now and key players are missing - Flintoff, Harmison blah blah blah excuse excuse. But truth is Pakistan are an extremely talented side, particulaly in one day cricket and England just seem to have lost all confidence. Ok so they are injury problems but I'm sorry, Darren Gough is just no longer up to international standard. Neither is Dalrymple, but if you're going to have him in the side then at least bowl him! Otherwise you might as well have Monty in there, despite his 'batting'. And Bell, well, good player, but his style isn't really suited so well to the one day game.
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Message 17 - posted by poweragusta
(U5282178)
, Sep 2, 2006
what more you can expect from england as far as one day is concern , one day never turnout to be as a won day for them. Needs lots of work guys you are only ahead of kenya and bangladesh push hard this is not just good enough for one dayers
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Message 18 - posted by hazsa19
(U1954670)
, Sep 2, 2006
The english team are obviously not motivated for the odis, the only occasion i can remember them being motivated for odis in recent history is last year when they wanted to strike an emphatic blow before the Ashes, in that period before the tests they won a few matches against the top side so weren't bad.
I think England need to approach the odis with a more cavalier way, if they don't care much try to get runs fast, rather than pretend they care and nudge and nurdle all the time.
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Message 19 - posted by KPthelegend
(U4108889)
, Sep 2, 2006
I think our performance has to come down to these factors:
- The batsman are just throwing their wickets away by playing to wide balls outside the off stump, this is the most common way they are getting out in ODIs (I've seen the evidence) by getting edges to the slips or the keeper.
- The bowlers keep bowling bad balls, ie short of a length, long hops or a half volley. You just can't do that in one-day cricket because you know that 9 times out of 10 you will get smacked for 4 or 6 by the batsman. Look at Jon Lewis today, bowling full length balls and only conceding 10 or so runs. This is how it should be done!
If the team can take this account I'm sure something will change.
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Message 20 - posted by holdenator6
(U5062008)
, Sep 2, 2006
staryss is really annoying me now u cnt go out to the toss lose and thn say tht it all depends on the toss yep well done staruss well done morale has just shot through the roof..jesus wht an idiot its like lara when he applauded(sarcasticly) the groundsmen for peparing a pitch they ddint want it just loses the whole team and theam have no belief they cn win anymore
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