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ANDY THIS TO CONTENTIUOS AN ISSUE FOR THIS BOARD!!!

No need to shout cardiffian. Can you please enlighten us as to your reason for saying that it is too contentious for this board?

goodlife

This might be better than the previous forum.

Thanks Desert1 - another cause of teenage pregnancy could well be the relative lack of opportunity for young people - male and female - to discuss the issue.

If Proud Cardiffian thinks topics that inspire strong views should be avoided, does that mean we should we ban any discussion of rugby in these forums? As long as everyone abides by the house rules, what's the problem?

Wales has one of the highest rates of teenage pregnancy in Europe. Should something be done to bring it down? Or is teenage motherhood a personal choice that should be respected? Share your views but please avoid making personal attacks. For more about Teen Mams, see the BBC South East Wales website at www.bbc.co.uk/wales/...

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Yeah...a dodgy one this...but when I was still in Cardiff I remember a nationwide documentary regarding the above. The result was Cardiff indeed the highest then in the UK.The reasons given then were all bad....Fast track to Council Housing...bad education / sex education,blah blah,...at the end the main reason found was,( although sounds hard)...purposely became pregnant..and no names supplied as father, to the CSA!

Personally on a lighter front I think that simply more girlies in our part of the world are up for Harry Ragging.! !No offence intended

telboy2005

ok andy here's my take on it. i was born and bred in cardiff and not in a particularly posh part i left home a 17. I remember my sex education in school (as 'everyone' has) you know chalk fish on the board. And i remember my mum telling me adout the birds and the bees,your baby sister came from mumies tummy (and me saying what she's not from caaaardiff like what i am).
When i was 13 i went baby sitting with my then girlfriend and senceing the inevitable i ran into a pub gents on the way and bought a 3 pack.....,...RESULT....When i was 16 i went camping with another girlfriend for 6 weeks again senceing the inevitable we 'both' went to the local family planning surgery and she undertook a course of oral contraception......RESULT. With these options open to eveyone as well as free condoms for tenagers and the morning after pill i see no need for unwanted pregnancies. I often see girls who look no more than children themselves pushing prams (i'm in my 30s)and wonder why. they don't look old enough to deal with their own emotional and physical burdons let allown a babies. On a physical note apparently becouse these girls hips have'nt fully developed (spread) they have to have a cyserian bith. As yet i have'nt got kids becouse i have'nt been finacialy stable enough or in a stable enough relationship, everyone has these options. I recently met someone who thought that these single mothers should have help from social workers etc with bringing their children up!! ok to cap it all befor i get on my soapbox i've recently spoken to two 19 year old girls who have children (3'4) and i,m of the firm opinion that they got pregnant so they don't have to work and they jump to the top of the council housing ladder. respect i,m outa here

ok andy here's my take on it. i was born and bred in cardiff and not in a particularly posh part i left home a 17. I remember my sex education in school (as 'everyone' has) you know chalk fish on the board. And i remember my mum telling me adout the birds and the bees,your baby sister came from mumies tummy (and me saying what she's not from caaaardiff like what i am).
When i was 13 i went baby sitting with my then girlfriend and senceing the inevitable i ran into a pub gents on the way and bought a 3 pack.....,...RESULT....When i was 16 i went camping with another girlfriend for 6 weeks again senceing the inevitable we 'both' went to the local family planning surgery and she undertook a course of oral contraception......RESULT. With these options open to eveyone as well as free condoms for tenagers and the morning after pill i see no need for unwanted pregnancies. I often see girls who look no more than children themselves pushing prams (i'm in my 30s)and wonder why. they don't look old enough to deal with their own emotional and physical burdons let allown a babies. On a physical note apparently becouse these girls hips have'nt fully developed (spread) they have to have a cyserian bith. As yet i have'nt got kids becouse i have'nt been finacialy stable enough or in a stable enough relationship, everyone has these options. I recently met someone who thought that these single mothers should have help from social workers etc with bringing their children up!! ok to cap it all befor i get on my soapbox i've recently spoken to two 19 year old girls who have children (3'4) and i,m of the firm opinion that they got pregnant so they don't have to work and they jump to the top of the council housing ladder. respect i,m outa here

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Give proudcardiffian a Blue Peter badge! Spot on
mate..my sentiments ...totally...you forgot some girls with really nice backgrounds have up to 3 or 4 kids..........all by different fathers!

telboy2005

Hello yes i used to come on here on the old forum and yes i am back on this one. I will stand up for teen mums any day trust me. People putting us down. We are doing good jobs at motherhood no matter what anyone thinks. I have an 11 week old son and he is my world, he is all i live for. And no way am i going to sit back and listen to people going on about young mothers how pathetic we all are. Im a young mum and i do a good job at it. I love it. At the end of the day i've been with my boyfriend for over two years and i never got pregnant but at 17 i fell pregnant and not on purpose. At first i felt like my world was ending, i felt like killing myself i was so upset, but never and i mean never would i have an abortion, and if i did i wouldn't have my beautiful little boy now. I know it must be annoying to you people with people like us getting benefits as you all pay for it, but i never got pregnant on purpose and i need the money to bring my son up. When i found out i was pregnant i got a job straight away and worked till i couldn't no more, i saved every penny i earned and so did my boyfriend. I cant work no more as i have the baby so i need financial support, but when i feel he is old enough and i can go off and leave him i would love to go back to work, i really would, i miss getting up and going off to work and meeting new people. But i don't feel ready to leave my son yet, he is still only very young, i'd worry too much about him and miss him dearly that it would drive me insane, and at this time its about bonding with your child, i don't think people think about the bonding side of things. I don't agree with teens getting pregnant on purpose as having a baby is a big responsibility to take on in life, and its silly when girls wont to get pregnant at a young age because they think it will make their relationships stronger, because it definately doesn't. I wouldn't change anything for the world, i have my beautiful little boy and my boyfriend, thats all that matters in my life now.

well done bon

Dancehall-this has been going on for years and always will!
I am doing my Family Tree and tend to be nosey so when I go to the records office I look at anything available such as Parish Registers ,Workhouse records,Cottage Homes records and Court cases.One very respected man in my town was fined for fighting and breaking a shop window during the war-his family would never mention this but I have seen it in black and white.
Someone asked me to get a copy of her parents marriage and when I handed it over it was immediately ripped up-why?because the person was born 3 months after the wedding.
I have recognised the names of women who were in the workhouse and their children in The Cottage Homes why? because the husband was in jail for abandoning them.
Just remember that many of these people who condemn you have kids of their own and none of us know what they do behind our backs.Do they know what skeletons are in their cupboards? maybe they would like to tell us.
All the best to you-Good luck