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  • Message 1. 

    Posted by twomomentsplease (U14906483) on Monday, 20th June 2011

    I was wondering what would the majority of people here do if they had a supernatural experience, would they tell anyone else ?

    We could start with s simple Unidentified-FO sighting and then progress to seeing an actual space-craft. Maybe this could progress further to also include hearing-voices, seeing ghosts, touching the dangley_appendages of the FSM - whatever,

    Would anyone dare tell the wife, close friends, associates, press ?


    Interested ?

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    Posted by Shaker2011 (U14275953) on Monday, 20th June 2011

    I was wondering what would the majority of people here do if they had a supernatural experience, would they tell anyone else ? 

    I would be asking myself some hard questions, first and foremost why I believed that the experience I had had was in any way "supernatural" since I don't believe in the existence of any such thing.

    We could start with s simple Unidentified-FO sighting and then progress to seeing an actual space-craft. 

    That wouldn't be supernatural, though, would it?

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    Posted by Grantus Maximus (U2325360) on Monday, 20th June 2011

    Hi twomomentsplease

    We could start with s simple Unidentified-FO sighting and then progress to seeing an actual space-craft.  

    How would either of the above be examples of the supernatural?

    Cheers - GM

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    Posted by Sassernach (U3699413) on Monday, 20th June 2011

    We don't have supernatural since whatever occurs must be part of a natural process of things.that happen.

    How does this fit in to the Christian topics?


    Love,

    The Sass.xx smiley - smiley

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    Posted by Flower (U14804501) on Monday, 20th June 2011

    Throughout my life I have had more experiences of what some might term 'supernatural' than most people. I am of the opinion seeing isn't alway believing, and there is a natural explanation for everything even if it has yet to be discovered.

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    Posted by trentvoyager (U4869492) on Monday, 20th June 2011

    I have never had a supernatural experience - altho I always wanted one.

    I know quite a few people who claim to have lived in haunted houses, talked with spirits - the usual stuff (if I can use the word usual in this context) but I frankly don't believe them - there is a rational part of me that just won't let me.

    In fact sometimes I have to excuse myself from the room on account of an inability to keep a straight face. Please note I am not saying that they are lying - I have no reason to disbelieve them except my own sense of reason. If that makes sense.

    I think it appeals to most people in that they want there to be something "unexplained / able" out there.

    Would I tell anyone if it happened - heck, yes. I love the idea of all those supernatural things (well maybe not vampires - altho some of the ones on True Blood are quite cute, sorry I digress) but realistically I can't really see it.

    It is much the same as my position on God - I'm not saying God doesn't exist - but the odds in my mind are so vanishingly small that to me God isn't really a viable concept.

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    Posted by splashscuba (U6675080) on Monday, 20th June 2011


    We could start with s simple Unidentified-FO sighting
     

    I see them all the time. UFO just means unidentified not supernatural.

    and then progress to seeing an actual space-craft
     

    See them all the time too, although the Americans have cut back their manned space programme recently.

    If you mean "non terrestrial" or alien space craft, then that wouldn't be supernatural, just improbable. If I saw one, I'd likely wet my pants first.

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    Posted by Sir Bernard Quatermass (U1732830) on Monday, 20th June 2011

    An incident seen by a religionist and an atheist could possibly end up as being the supernatural or even a miracle from the believer and as something mundane from the atheist.

    I live in an old house in the countryside and apart from settlement and heating and cooling, there are animals about outside, and rarely inside so noises occur but I do not attribute them to ghosts.

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    Posted by TW (U8621000) on Monday, 20th June 2011

    We don't have supernatural since whatever occurs must be part of a natural process of things.that happen. 

    The Gospel is supernatural and miraculous.

    ~TW~
    smiley - holly

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    Posted by twomomentsplease (U14906483) on Monday, 20th June 2011

    Hi guys,

    I did mention the more supernatural elements in the initial posts but the mods decided that it was inapropriate.

    Just what do they have against the great FSM (and his dangley bits) ?

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    Posted by Grantus Maximus (U2325360) on Monday, 20th June 2011

    Hi twomomentsplease

    I did mention the more supernatural elements in the initial posts but the mods decided that it was inapropriate.  

    No they didn't - they've temporarily flagged it as it's off topic for this board (i.e. no direct reference to Christianity) and it'll probably get shifted to Religion and ethics when they get round to it. The OP will be visible again once they've moved the thread.

    Cheers - GM

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    Posted by TW (U8621000) on Monday, 20th June 2011

    Just what do they have against the great FSM (and his dangley bits) ? 

    I never saw your 1st post so cannot comment on FSM.

    But to the mods the Christian God is a SKY God and supernatural,but they are only mods working under PC conditions,as Jesus said forgive them they know not what they do.

    ~TW~
    smiley - holly

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    Posted by Sebastian Toe (U11262149) on Monday, 20th June 2011

    You could ask Keith.

    I seem to recall that he claims to have had several.

    www.bbc.co.uk/dna/mb...

    This is one of them..
    www.bbc.co.uk/dna/mb...

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    Posted by horsethorn (U1620054) on Monday, 20th June 2011

    I'm getting worried. It must be the end-times fever sweeping the board: I actually agree with Sass (and Perse); It's all natural. Whether the experience is of your god, someone who has died, a fairy, the FSM, doesn't matter.

    If, for example, your god* appeared to you, how is this "super"-natural? If your god* created the universe, it is perfectly natural for your god* to inhabit it and interact with its denizens.

    Ditto for meeting fairies - if you meet them, they must exist naturally. Ergo, they are not super-natural.

    The only 'super-natural' experience I can conceive of is an encounter with entities from an alternate/additional/parallel universe, providing of course you limit your definition of 'natural' to our universe only.

    ht

    *Insert your preferred deity, or a hypothetical entity if you are an atheist. It's just an example. smiley - winkeye

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    Posted by twomomentsplease (U14906483) on Monday, 20th June 2011

    Hi GM,

    No they didn't - they've temporarily flagged it as it's off topic for this board (i.e. no direct reference to Christianity) and it'll probably get shifted to Religion and ethics when they get round to it. The OP will be visible again once they've moved the thread.  

    I hope that they replace it as myself being a Xtian and believing that I have experienced the SuperNatural in 2 prophetic dreams and several also in other ways.

    According to 'string-theory' there are about 10 (or eleven) other dimensions, maybe beings actually living in a 'seventh heaven' so to speak. For an example of what I believe see here (ignore his serpents and ufo claims) and you may understand what I mean - www.youtube.com/watc...

    So would anyone else be brave and admit so readily to a supernatural occurance ?

    thx TM
    ---
    ps By the way, I am also reading an excellent book (on other side of the debate) - "Why we see what isn't there" _ Prof (and conjourer) Rich Wiseman.

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    Posted by Flower (U14804501) on Tuesday, 21st June 2011

    /////////////////The Gospel is supernatural and miraculous.///////////////////

    The way it was put together made it read that way, but I reckon in reality there was nothing supernatural about the life of Jesus.

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    Posted by Rabbac (U5273099) on Tuesday, 21st June 2011

    Why we see what isn't there - The story of magic mushrooms smiley - smiley

    It depends on what i saw. If i saw bright lights in the sky it would be inconclusive what i was looking at and a ship from another planet would the the last thing i would say it was.

    If I actually saw a ship land and something get out then as someone says i would wet myself but i would still be wary of hallucinations and question my own sanity unless there was physical evidence left behind. Having experienced our old pals the mushrooms in my wayward youth I know how very real hallucianations can be and how our brains cant distinguish from them and reality.

    I think the problem is expectation. If you believe in ghosts and go to somewhere allegedly haunted then you are more likely to attibute anything your imagination conjurers up to be ghosts. Same with UFO's or Nessie (and religion) if you are expecting to see something your more likely to see it.

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    Posted by BBC auto-messages (U294) on Tuesday, 21st June 2011

    Editorial Note: This conversation has been moved from 'The Christian topic' to 'Ethics and freethought'.

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    Posted by Grantus Maximus (U2325360) on Tuesday, 21st June 2011

    Hi twomomentsplease

    I hope that they replace it as myself being a Xtian and believing that I have experienced the SuperNatural in 2 prophetic dreams and several also in other ways.  

    That may well be the case, but if your OP wasn't relevant to the board it may well get moved to one where it is. If you want it to remain on the Christian Topic, then my advice would be for you to reword it so it is directly relevant to Christianity and repost it on a new thread.

    Cheers - GM

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    Posted by Dancerblue (U14915693) on Tuesday, 21st June 2011

    Hi GM,

    No they didn't - they've temporarily flagged it as it's off topic for this board (i.e. no direct reference to Christianity) and it'll probably get shifted to Religion and ethics when they get round to it. The OP will be visible again once they've moved the thread.  

    I hope that they replace it as myself being a Xtian and believing that I have experienced the SuperNatural in 2 prophetic dreams and several also in other ways.

    According to 'string-theory' there are about 10 (or eleven) other dimensions, maybe beings actually living in a 'seventh heaven' so to speak. For an example of what I believe see here (ignore his serpents and ufo claims) and you may understand what I mean - www.youtube.com/watc...

    So would anyone else be brave and admit so readily to a supernatural occurance ?

    thx TM
    ---
    ps By the way, I am also reading an excellent book (on other side of the debate) - "Why we see what isn't there" _ Prof (and conjourer) Rich Wiseman.
     
    Hi! I’m new and looking forward to joining in discussions.

    I have read that book and it definitely changed my view of a few things.

    To answer the original question. No I wouldn’t tell anyone about any strange experiences I have had. The main reason being that I would most likely spend more time defending myself than I would sharing the experience.

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    Posted by splashscuba (U6675080) on Wednesday, 22nd June 2011


    Hi! I’m new and looking forward to joining in discussions.
     

    Just your bad luck that you've picket a bad time to join. You won't have long. The boards close for good after the 27th June.

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    Posted by Dancerblue (U14915693) on Saturday, 25th June 2011

    That’s a pity. So do you all have somewhere else to go to continue the discussions?

    Do you have any good site recommendations?

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