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  • Message 1. 

    Posted by Eddie (U14033965) on Tuesday, 7th June 2011

    Is the BBC scared of Islam?

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    Posted by Jack-in-the-Green (U14769647) on Tuesday, 7th June 2011

    Isn't everybody?

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    Posted by look_listen (U2362432) on Wednesday, 8th June 2011

    I think most people tread with care when it comes to all religions because they know how daft they can be and fanatical.

    The problem tends to be, you replace one fanatical system with another, we never seem able to get rid of the lot.

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    Posted by Jack-in-the-Green (U14769647) on Wednesday, 8th June 2011

    And above is the proof

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    Posted by look_listen (U2362432) on Wednesday, 8th June 2011

    It certainly does make you wonder, I didn't get to read it but the mind does start to go into over time on these things.

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    Posted by merciful-evans (U11039926) on Thursday, 9th June 2011

    Is the BBC scared of Islam? 
    Isn't everybody? 

    The BBC and Everybody are wrong.

    Islam is peace.

    Your misunderstanding is as a result of misinformation.

    Islam is a victim of vile rumours funded by the CIA, FRS, EDL, RSPCA, RAC, HMSO, BB King and numerous other neo-pro-Zionist affiliates.

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  • Message 8

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    Posted by Major Higgs-Boson (U225196) on Thursday, 9th June 2011

    BB King ?

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  • Message 9

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    Posted by Smeagol (U14266477) on Thursday, 9th June 2011

    The BBC is so PC obsessed it's even scared of it's own shadow!

    The only exception is the coalition government which it heaps negativity on at every opportunity. I suppose the degree to which BBC news has been overrun by over 4000 members of the trade union movement (the NUJ) is the reason for the exception!

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    Posted by dc1965 (U14174796) on Thursday, 9th June 2011

    Is the BBC scared of Islam? 
    Isn't everybody? 

    The BBC and Everybody are wrong.

    Islam is peace.

    Your misunderstanding is as a result of misinformation.

    Islam is a victim of vile rumours funded by the CIA, FRS, EDL, RSPCA, RAC, HMSO, BB King and numerous other neo-pro-Zionist affiliates.

     
    That's weird.

    A bloke in the sauna at the gym said pretty much the same thing this morning. Although he stopped short of laying the blame on motoring organisations and legenderay blues guitarists.

    In fact he stopped after the word Zionists.

    Well, actually, he didn't stop but I couldn't here him any more after I left the sauna and shut the door on him.

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  • Message 11

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    Posted by Daniel-K (U2684833) on Friday, 10th June 2011

    The BBC is so PC obsessed it's even scared of it's own shadow!
     

    There are people who are afraid of Islam. They are easy to spot. They want laws passed against shariah as if that were a real and present danger to the British way of life. They despise women who choose to wear the hijab and want them forced by law to dress as they demand. They associated Islam with terrorism and they believe that connection is essential, univerasal and unbreakable. Through their lens of paranoia they imagine they see Islam being given privileged treatment in society and the media. They live in fear of a Muslim takeover of Europe in general and Britain in particular. And in all this they are forever impervious to such niceties as facts and reality.
    Fear of Islam, in short, is the special province above all of the racist right not the PC left. (I do not say all right-wingers are racist any more than all left-wingers are PC only that fear of Islam belongs first to that part of the political right that is racist, only distantly followed by that part of the political left that is too.)

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    Posted by Jack-in-the-Green (U14769647) on Friday, 10th June 2011

    Daniel-K

    Fear of a violent backlash against any perceived slight against Muslims, but more particularly Islam, is not an irrational one, nor the preserve of the right-wing. There have been hundreds of incidents where people exercising their free speech have been threatened, attacked and murdered by people taking exception to it. Several people are currently living under permanent 24 hour guard to protect them against threats on their life. There are numerous journalists and authors languishing in jail in the middle-east. Numerous others who have been executed. In this country, we now have anti-democratic laws preventing people from making valid criticisms of religion.

    The BBC is scared of Islam because everyone is. But the BBC has to find the courage not to be so the rest of us can too.

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    Posted by Major Higgs-Boson (U225196) on Friday, 10th June 2011

    The BBC is scared of Islam because everyone is. 

    Some Muslims are pretty scary, most aren't, each seem to find what they want within Islam.


    Here are some scary ones.

    www.thisislondon.co....

    "Four Muslim men were jailed today after they carried out a brutal attack on an RE teacher because they did not approve of him teaching religious studies to Muslim girls."

    They smashed his skull with a brick ,slashed his face stamped on him in a sustained, premeditated attack.Take a look at them.It could be argued that the media is to blame for implanting the idea in people's heads that men who look like this do things like that but then the media didn't actually set about this man themselves.Perhaps the media is under-reporting the many vocal condemnations of these men's actions by other men who look like that in which case it would be reassuring to see them make a fuss about it, insist upon being seen and heard to condemn such actions and speak out in support of teachers, both male and female, who teach subjects like Religious Education in this democracy of ours.That is the sort of thing that might go some way to allaying all these unjustified fears of the peaceful religion, Islam.





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    Posted by Jack-in-the-Green (U14769647) on Friday, 10th June 2011

    When an obscure pastor in America threatened to burn the Koran, it prompted the President to take action to avert an international incident where riots were likely to break out as they did over the cartoons and many people would lose their lives. Holy books are destroyed the world over, daily. As are other symbols that are important to non-religious people (e.g. poppies being burned on Armistace day, or Salman Rushdie's book or national flags), but none of these incidents require the President to issue a statement to avert a catastrophe. The response from Muslims is simply different to other groups in the world. And we are all being held hostage to it. Obviously this doesn't mean that all Muslims will behave in this way, but enough do so to make it a genuine danger. Nor does it mean that other people don't sometimes act in this way too, but not in significant enough numbers to pose a serious threat, certainly not in a way that can actually have a politically destabilising effect. Everyone knows that criticising Islam is an extremely risky undertaking and the fear pervades not just the media but our politicians, so much so that they never do it. Muslims yes, Islam no.

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  • Message 15

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    Posted by cymrudynnion (U14691512) on Friday, 10th June 2011

    Certainly keep Sharia out of Britain and yes ban burquas, viels and hijabs

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    Posted by Voyager (U14896994) on Saturday, 11th June 2011

    Is the BBC scared of Islam?  I just mentioned the words "Moslem Community" here and my post was removed. Is that the BBC being scared of Islam or did I do something wrong. Have I done someting wrong again

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    Posted by look_listen (U2362432) on Tuesday, 21st June 2011

    The BBC have to watch their Ps and Qs simply becuase their existence is funded by public money.

    Of course not all muslims are violent crazed killers that want to threaten society.

    But you have some people that are violent crazed killers trying to get others to get involved in things that they shouldn't.

    But you have similar in almost all religions I suspect.

    At the moment its the muslims turn thats all.

    I suppose that's the problem with clubs that have an open door policy, after all that is what religions are arn't they clubs of sourts?

    In the days of the IRA I don't recall people saying the religion was the problem even though it might have had a hand in it somewhere.

    You have bad people no matter what, perhaps if the muslim preachers kept an eye on their congrigation they might be able to rout them out and help them stay on the right track, after all if these people are getting their mixed up feelings from their religion perhaps it can be fixed through their relgiion.

    But you can't have preachers or mullers or whatever they are called sanctioning bad behaviour.

    I wonder do they have some kind of official mullership that they have to take a test for before they can start preaching to people, or can anyone simply set up shop and off you go?

    And why do they have to pray so much surely that can't be good.

    I may just ask some people i know about these things as they are muslims.

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  • Message 18

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    Posted by Smeagol (U14266477) on Tuesday, 21st June 2011

    According to the BBC, while the crusades were in full swing and Robin Hood and his 'merry men' were up to high jinks in Sherwood Forest, one of their number was a female Muslim and Friar Tuck was an Afro-Caribbean.

    This craven tokenism was invented in the US and at least there, it had the excuse that it was only invented for business, not PC reasons.

    Perhaps the loss of an accurate understanding of human history is a small price to pay for the creation of a multicultural mess where everyone ends up being equally misrepresented.

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  • Message 19

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    Posted by DG_Young (U13914090) on Tuesday, 21st June 2011

    The BBC's postal address (the Bush House one) is known the world over. If something too critical of the value system of Islam were presented on a BBC broadcast or in an online discussion, the BBC would not want any of their staff to receive a letter-bomb.

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  • Message 20

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    Posted by Major Higgs-Boson (U225196) on Tuesday, 21st June 2011

    Is the BBC scared of Islam?  I just mentioned the words "Moslem Community" here and my post was removed. Is that the BBC being scared of Islam or did I do something wrong. Have I done someting wrong again 

    But you've mentioned it again and your post is still up.Maybe there's something you're not telling us about.

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  • Message 21

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    Posted by look_listen (U2362432) on Saturday, 25th June 2011

    Smeagol:

    I wonder though would it have been possible for any of robin hoods men or women to have actually been muslim or black in those times.

    Considering the muslims regularly paid visits to parts of the UK and often would have been black, and lets not forget the romans with their black elite squadrons so i'm lead to believe.

    So even though the actual characters may well not have been as stated perhaps there were in truth as mentioned in his gang, mind you wouldn't be that hard for the sherif to id them would it assuming there were not many around at that time.

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