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Some Verses From The Qur'an To Keep In Mind As We Part

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  • Message 1. 

    Posted by Ayub_O (U14872501) on Monday, 27th June 2011


    O believers, let not any people scoff at another people who may be better than they; neither let women scoff at women who may be better than themselves. And find not fault with one another, neither revile one another by nicknames. An evil name is ungodliness after belief. And whoso repents not, those -- they are the evildoers.

    (Qur'an 49:11) 



    O believers, be you securers of justice, witnesses for God, even though it be against yourselves, or your parents and kinsmen, whether the man be rich or poor; God stands closest to either. Then follow not caprice, so as to swerve; for if you twist or turn, God is aware of the things you do.

    (Qur'an 4:135) 


    Had God willed, they were not idolaters; and We have not appointed thee a watcher over them, neither art thou their guardian.

    Abuse not those to whom they pray, apart from God, or they will abuse God in revenge without knowledge. So We have decked out fair to every nation their deeds; then to their Lord they shall return, and He will tell them what they have been doing.


    (Qur'an 6:107-108) 



    and finally,

    It is not piety, that you turn your faces to the East and to the West. True piety is this: to believe in God, and the Last Day, the angels, the Book, and the Prophets, to give of one's substance, however cherished, to kinsmen, and orphans, the needy, the traveller, beggars, and to ransom the slave, to perform the prayer, to pay the alms. And they who fulfil their covenant when they have engaged in a covenant, and endure with fortitude misfortune, hardship and peril, these are they who are true in their faith, these are the truly godfearing.

    (Qur'an 2:177) 



    May Peace and God's blessings be upon you

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  • Message 2

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    Posted by Whisper_of_Iblis (U14095435) on Monday, 27th June 2011

    Salaam Ayub_O:

    Thats spooky, somewhat as I was requesting on the last word thread.
    Thanks.

    Bless you Mullah Nasrudin.

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  • Message 3

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    Posted by spacelizards (U2490505) on Monday, 27th June 2011

    And whoso repents not, those -- they are the evildoers. 

    Thanks. Love you too.






    Git.

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  • Message 4

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    Posted by RayofSun (U14818146) on Monday, 27th June 2011

    (Qur'an 4:135)

    How can justice be established if Muslim courts of law governing the Muslims affairs are not allowed?

    This verse proves that it is obligatory for Muslims to establish Muslim government, Muslim courts and a Muslim political and economic order. Without these Muslims are reduced to following only half or less of Islam, many are content with this, much secular humanist and banking power propaganda has served to make Muslims believe that Islam is apolitical and has no economic dimension to its teachings, and it has been succesful. Muslims must re-learn Islam from authentic sources.

    Al Muwwata written by Malik is one of the source books of the Islamic law, here are the chapter headings to give you a indication of the scope of Islamic teachings, now largely ignored by most Muslims:

    Chapter 31: Money changing

    Chapter 32: Inheritance

    Chapter 33: Advanced payment

    Chapter 34: Sales with different time periods

    Chapter 35: Corrupt sales

    Chapter 36: Profit sharing

    Chapter 37: Deceptive transactions

    Chapter 38: Fruit‐bearing trees assigned by their owner to another person

    Chapter 39: Trading in the land of the enemy

    Chapter 40: Concealing defects in goods

    Chapter 41: Settlement of transactions

    Chapter 42: Making manufacturers accountable

    Chapter 43: Wages and hire

    Chapter 44: Renting riding beasts

    Chapter 45: Renting houses and land

    Chapter 46: Share‐cropping

    Chapter 47: Partnership

    Chapter 48: Qirad

    Chapter 49: Judgements

    Chapter 50: Claims

    Chapter 51: The indebted person

    Chapter 52: Bankruptcy

    Chapter 53: The one authorised to trade

    Chapter 54: Standing surety and taking responsibility that another’s obligations will be discharged

    Chapter 55: Transfer of debts

    Chapter 56: Pawning

    Chapter 57: Property taken wrongfully

    Chapter 58: Laying claim by rights

    Chapter 59: Pre‐emption

    Chapter 60: Division of inheritance

    Chapter 61: Dedicating a property inalienably as a waqf

    Chapter 62: Sadaqah

    Chapter 63: Trusts and deposits

    Chapter 64: Lending

    Chapter 65: Theft

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  • Message 5

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    Posted by Whisper_of_Iblis (U14095435) on Monday, 27th June 2011

    Hi Spacelizards,

    Is it not said "Blessed are the cheesemakers"

    cheesily Mullah Nasrudin

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  • Message 6

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    Posted by spacelizards (U2490505) on Monday, 27th June 2011

    Well obviously it's not meant to be taken literally, it refers to any manufacturers of dairy products.

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  • Message 7

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    Posted by DelBoy1981 (U14374039) on Monday, 27th June 2011

    Hi

    Im one of those evil doers,and very proud.

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  • Message 8

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    Posted by Whisper_of_Iblis (U14095435) on Monday, 27th June 2011

    Hi Spacelizards,

    I do believe you're buttering me up, hopefully no in a "Last Tango in Paris" way!

    Arff.

    Not to be B******d about with Mullah Nasrudin

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  • Message 9

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    Posted by Ayub_O (U14872501) on Monday, 27th June 2011

    Salaam Ayub_O:

    Thats spooky, somewhat as I was requesting on the last word thread.
    Thanks. 


    No problem, and I just whent and read your post on the other thread, you're right it is kinda spooky .



    wouldn't go thanking a mullah for it though, I'd praise the Allmightysmiley - winkeye . . . but then again you did pick Whisper_of_Iblis as a name, so I'm guessing there is some irony or sracasm there somewhere


    To Space Lizard:

    I didn't realise you held verbal abuse and condescension to be so dear to you, that you would take offense to it, and those who practice it unashamedly, being condemed as evil.

    Nice to know where you stand on the issue I guesssmiley - ok


    To RayofSun:

    Islam is a way of life, therefore it does not *need* any political system for it to be practised, all it needs is for believers to be *allowed* to live their lives as they see fit.

    and if one feels that the place where he is living is somehow impeding his practice of Islam, then we are told to emigrate in the way of God if we are able to, and if we truely cannot escape the circumstance which is stoping us from being able to practise Islam, then God is most surely most forgiving:


    And those the angels take, while still they are wronging themselves -- the angels will say, 'In what circumstances were you?' They will say, 'We were abased in the earth.' The angels will say, 'But was not God's earth wide, so that you might have emigrated in it?' Such men, their refuge shall be Gehenna -- an evil homecoming! -

    except the men, women, and children who, being abased, can devise nothing and are not guided to a way;

    haply them God will yet pardon, for God is All-pardoning, All-forgiving.

    Whoso emigrates in the way of God will find in the earth many refuges and plenty; whoso goes forth from his house an emigrant to God and His Messenger, and then death overtakes him, his wage shall have fallen on God; surely God is All-forgiving, All-compassionate.

    (Quran 4:97-100)  


    Emigration in search of the path of God is akin to Jihad, and the death of such a one is akin to the death of a Martyr

    we should think about that when we complain about our conditions, I don't like it when it is being spouted by the BNP or the EDL and their sorts, but in truth, the Quran tells us that practice of God's faith should be dearer to us than anything, and that doesn't mean causing a ruckus or trouble or fighting of any sort, it means leaving for better pasures and trusting in God that you shall find them

    Just for clarity though, that shouldn't be equated with those who find themselves being bombed or forcefully driven out of their own homes, that's a totally different case, *they* have a right to defend themselves. smiley - smiley

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    Posted by spacelizards (U2490505) on Monday, 27th June 2011

    I didn't realise you held verbal abuse and condescension to be so dear to you, that you would take offense to it, and those who practice it unashamedly, being condemed as evil.  

    What I object to, my dear, is your quaint notion that everyone who doesn't happen to follow your faith is an evildoer.

    In quite what spirit you imagined this would be taken I do not wish to know.

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  • Message 12

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    Posted by Whisper_of_Iblis (U14095435) on Monday, 27th June 2011

    Salaam Ayub_O

    No irony or sarcasam intended in my posts, it's too easily misunderstood.
    My screen name is just meant to be provacative not insulting, a juxtaposition against the title Mullah Nasrudin, a wise fool/foolish sage, the human condition?

    Gently Mullah Nasrudin

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  • Message 13

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    Posted by Ayub_O (U14872501) on Monday, 27th June 2011

    I assumed you were responding to the message 1, in which the only quote contating the term "evil doer" was the following:

    O believers, let not any people scoff at another people who may be better than they; neither let women scoff at women who may be better than themselves. And find not fault with one another, neither revile one another by nicknames. An evil name is ungodliness after belief. And whoso repents not, those -- they are the evildoers.

    (Qur'an 49:11)  


    so I assumed you meant you fitted the criteria which the quote gave, i.e. you scoffed at other people who may be better than you (aka condescension), you found faulth with and reviled others with nicknames (aka verbal abuse), and you were unrepentent about it.

    At what point, in the post was another criteria for "evil doers given"?

    I'm sorry, but was I meant to somehow immediately assume that you were responding to my religion in general, instead of thinking that you were commenting on what had actually been said in this thread?

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  • Message 14

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    Posted by spacelizards (U2490505) on Monday, 27th June 2011

    At what point, in the post was another criteria for "evil doers given"?

    I'm sorry, but was I meant to somehow immediately assume that you were responding to my religion in general, instead of thinking that you were commenting on what had actually been said in this thread?

     


    OK, cool.

    It's just that I always think of repenting as a very religion-y thing to do because of its close association with sin. Sin only really applies to the religious, so if you don't sin, you don't feel the need to repent and ... well, you see where I'm going.

    If you didn't mean that though, then I'm sorry for overreacting. In my defence I'm currently under vicious assult by flu and my brain is mostly fixating on the location of tissue at. all. times. All times I say!

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  • Message 15

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    Posted by Ayub_O (U14872501) on Monday, 27th June 2011



    OK, cool.

    It's just that I always think of repenting as a very religion-y thing to do because of its close association with sin. Sin only really applies to the religious, so if you don't sin, you don't feel the need to repent and ... well, you see where I'm going.

    If you didn't mean that though, then I'm sorry for overreacting. In my defence I'm currently under vicious assult by flu and my brain is mostly fixating on the location of tissue at. all. times. All times I say! 


    that's alright, I'm suffering from the same problem so I can relate smiley - smiley smiley - ok

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  • Message 16

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    Posted by RayofSun (U14818146) on Monday, 27th June 2011

    "and if we truely cannot escape the circumstance which is stoping us from being able to practise Islam, then God is most surely most forgiving:"

    Muslims should be working towards establishing Islam fully wherever they are, this means by first speaking out against the evil practices and by establishing alternative Islamic structures of governments, currency etc.

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