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Moslem Myths....

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    Posted by chefone (U14431437) on Thursday, 26th May 2011

    Good day all on the Moslem board....
    I am wondering how many Moslem children have actually sat back and properly researched thier very colourful and varied origins..
    Especially so the Arabs before Islam....?
    I have a little story i would graciously ask you to read and also ask yous for your feed back on what i have said....
    I have posted a similar theme on both the jewish and Pagan boards and i hope some of yous enjoy the story...
    Before thier conversion to Islam the arabs , scattered through the vast peninsula between the Persian Gulf , the Indian Ocean and the red sea practiced a naturalistic and animalistic religion , worshipping stones and trees.
    They peopled the univrse with demons , [benevolent and malevolent] the jinns , and with "redoubtable" genii , the Efrit , who delighted in assuming the most diverse forms in order to harm mankind....
    After conversion.....
    In order to check the infinitely varied survivals of Paganism [the multiplicity of gods] the worship of idols ....And in order to maintain theism in its purity , the moslems scorned anthropomorhic figures Hence at the same time they confined thier art to decoration inspired by geometry only ; and to dogma they refused the licence of expressing itself in fables and symbols . The arid precision of the law was in thier eyes the sole form of truth.The people conqured by Islam ,[Persia and India] found this legalism repugnant and preserved thier traditional ways as best they could......
    Those who remained faithful to mazdaism had to expatriate themselves and took refuge in Hindu territory...These were the Parsees or Ghebres....
    This quality in the persian psyche turned iran from orthodox Mohammedanism to the shiite "Heresy"...
    Shiites are those Moslems who revere Ali and maintain that Abu Bekr , Omar and Othman [the first three caliphs] committed and illegal crime by depriving Ali of the succession to the prophet..Hence the veneration of the line which derived from Ali was to give rise to a new mythology , whose roots were Islamic but whose foliage was Iranian........

    Your views....?

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    Posted by chefone (U14431437) on Friday, 27th May 2011

    Before i committed myself to multi cultural and multi faith religion i did infact spend much time with some very serious minded Moslems and some of the storys i was told were so very much enlightening....
    Just read the following history and feel the romance and passion that is incorporated into the Moslem faith....

    The 12 Imams........
    Eleven descendants of Ali and his wife Fat , Mohammeds daughter , constituted with Ali himself the 12 Imams or "directors" . They were semi divine personages who were invested with moral functions . They ruled the 12 hours of the day in the order of thier succession and were thus the object of continual daily piety..
    Ali , the "approved" [Murteza] the Lion of god [Haidar] purified the soul of sin . Fatima too , was above all women "pure" . Hassan , thier son , protected and on occasion avenged the faithful. His brother Hosein , "Father of the poor" was a propiator of divine mercy...
    Zein el Abidin was supposed to be the son of Hosein and Sherbanu , daughter of the last Sassanian King Yazdgard 111 . In this way began a development of Islam especially fitted to Persia with its mingling of religion and national tradition ,. The Imam Zein el Abidin assumed a political "character" He sheltered his devotees from tyranny and assured thier favour with the Sultans.
    Mohammed el Bagir was the patron of scholars ; Jafer as Sadiq a master of piety ; Musa al Kazhim , a healer ; Ali ar Riza , a guide when one travelled ; Mohammed at Taqi dispensed not only rewards of unselfishness but also those of riches ; Alian Naqi presided over justice , and also over charity ; Abdallah Hasan watched over the decencys , formality and decorum of worldly as well as of religious behavior . He thus assured constant happiness . Mohammed al Mahdi , who in infancy vanished underground , would announce the news of the imminent end of the world . Meanwhile he procured victory and saw that loans were repaid....

    Art abstained from the impiety of representing the features of the Imams. Thier faces were veiled or thier effigies symbolised by flames....

    Any comments...That could best help people understand thier faith....
    chef

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    Posted by tucuxii (U13714114) on Friday, 27th May 2011


    They peopled the univrse with demons , [benevolent and malevolent] the jinns , and with "redoubtable" genii , the Efrit , who delighted in assuming the most diverse forms in order to harm mankind....
     


    Believe in Jinns is still surprisingly common - I saw a news report on a local TV channel in Borneo detailing how a small Jinn had wrecked a kitchen, they even showed footprints and a graphic of something that looked like an extra from Gremlins

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    Posted by chefone (U14431437) on Thursday, 16th June 2011

    tucuxii

    Sorry in my delay in answering your post...
    A union took place that reconciled Mazdaian demonology with the genii of the Koran..Among the latter may be mentioned the jinns , with thier father Jann who seems to of been created before Adam. They were long faithful to the law of the creator , but became corrupted by the sin of pride. Iblis , Satan , was born among them. His fault .... was a lack of submission.
    Chef..

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    Posted by chefone (U14431437) on Monday, 27th June 2011


    Good luck in the future to everyone on this board...

    chef...

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