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  • Message 151

    , in reply to message 148.

    Posted by letusreason (U5152521) on Friday, 19th March 2010

    >>Now why would someone stretch out the north? This is meaningless other than to say it is desolation there<<


    >>why would someone stretch out the north? This is meaningless <<


    Only meaningless to you, not me!

    Look up the Hebrew for the English expression "stretch out" and you may find your clue and when you have found Hebrew scriptures that contain the above ["stretch out"] then see Isa 40:22 in the light of the understanding behind the Hebrew "stretch out" and then stand back and see if you can see the overall context of what the prophet is saying in Isa 40:22!

    Kind regards,

    letusreason

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  • Message 152

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    Posted by Sir Bernard Quatermass (U1732830) on Friday, 19th March 2010

    letusreason. Whether you call yourself LUR or glorybe21, your posts contain no reason, you tell deliberate lies about science and anything else in your support of creationism aka ID.

    Water evaporation is hardly rocket science and saying that some goat herder knew about it 2000 years ago when writing in the bible so it is heavenly knowledge is like claiming that he knew how to put his robe on is heavenly knowledge.

    As creationists love lying about what people say, let's see what Robert Jastrow really said (from the wiki):


    His expressed views on Creation were that although he was an "agnostic, and not a believer", it seems to him that "the curtain drawn over the mystery of creation will never be raised by human efforts, at least in the foreseeable future" due to "the circumstances of the big bang-the fiery holocaust that destroyed the record of the past". 

    Then again, being born in 1925, he was not exactly working in science after the year 2000.

    The usual shameful lie about atheists, scientists, evolutionists, seeing ID aka creationism as true. Have you no standards to make up such blatant lies, even claiming that evidence now supports creationism?

    No need to write such long posts in future. Just cut out all the dishonesty and you can keep your posts down to a few lines.




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  • Message 153

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    Posted by Sir Bernard Quatermass (U1732830) on Friday, 19th March 2010

    letusreason21. Stretch out as in the land stretches out before us or even:


    He stretcheth out

    natah (naw-taw')

    to stretch or spread out; by implication, to bend away (including moral deflection); used in a great variety of application (out), stretch (forth, out), take (aside), turn (aside, away), wrest, cause to yield.


    the north

    tsaphown (tsaw-fone')

    hidden, i.e. dark; used only of the north as a quarter (gloomy and unknown) -- north(-ern, side, -ward, wind).


    You understand it as you read what you want into it. I have to examine it for what it is, the rantings of someone (Job) who is very upset with his life and is railing against everything but god.

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  • Message 154

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    Posted by Heselbine (U1612177) on Friday, 19th March 2010

    Things are only "apparent" to an earthly observer and not "actual" 

    Yes - except that you were talking about SCIENTIFIC predictions. SCIENTIFIC predictions require accuracy.

    If you want to demonstrate that the Bible makes scientific predictions, you should make some attempt to find out what a scientific prediction looks like.

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  • Message 155

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    Posted by BashfulAnthony (U10740638) on Friday, 19th March 2010


    SBQ/

    . I have to examine it for what it is, the rantings of someone (Job) who is very upset with his life and is railing against everything but god. 

    As I have pointed out before, you have entirely misunderstood, and misrepresented, (purposely or otherwise ) the story of Job, which is clearly not a literal one anyway.

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  • Message 156

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    Posted by Sir Bernard Quatermass (U1732830) on Friday, 19th March 2010

    BashfulAnthony. In 200 words or less, why do you not tell me about the book of Job then?

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  • Message 157

    , in reply to message 149.

    Posted by newdwr54 (U12275314) on Friday, 19th March 2010

    letusreason
    What you miss is the Hebrew context. 
    Hogwash.

    If I want to say "sphere" I'll say "sphere", or "ball", etc. I have words I can use to explain exactly what I mean.

    So did the writer/s of Isaiah. They had a word for "ball" which they used when they wanted to describe a spherical object.

    They also had a word for "disc", which they used when they wanted to describe a flat circle.

    When describing Earth they used the term for "disc". In common with every other Bronze Age cosmology they mistook the flat Earth they saw around them as a circular disc, complete with edges mind you, and they described it as such.

    They confirmed their suspicions by looking at the Moon, which appeared to travel around Earth while keeping its face directly upon the Earth. It also looked like a circular disc. They could see the shadow of the disc of the Earth cover the Moon, and so concluded that Earth, like the Moon, was a also disc.

    They knew no better. It really is that simple. No amount of linguistic tomfoolery can hide that fact from any reasonable observer. Your desperate attempt to twist logic just so you can *make it fit* is a fools errand.

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  • Message 158

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    Posted by Spud (U14068611) on Friday, 19th March 2010

    Hi newdwr54

    That is interesting. smiley - ok

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  • Message 159

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    Posted by John Moodie (U14353581) on Friday, 19th March 2010

    You claim Jesus never existed because J was not invented until the 14th century.
    Are you saying anyone with the name John or James didn't exist until the 14th century? What a stupid argument!

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  • Message 160

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    Posted by smittims (U1158597) on Friday, 19th March 2010

    Hi, letusreasion, you say

    'your master of Hebrew is greater than the authorities quoted and you are to be congratulated for teaching us all!'

    ... thanks; I'm content to leave it at that, but I should point out that the translations which have 'round' and not 'spherical' were translated by expert Hebrew scholars .

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  • Message 161

    , in reply to message 142.

    Posted by letusreason (U5152521) on Friday, 19th March 2010

    Just one thing I forgot to mention and that was, is there any reason why you omitted the term "vault", which has already been previously explained!

    strongsnumbers.com/h...


    You see, I too can use the above, but try "Strong's" as well, as it is part of the clue to understanding the context...!

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  • Message 162

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    Posted by newdwr54 (U12275314) on Friday, 19th March 2010

    letusreason,

    If you take a child with no astronomical education onto a small hill on a desert plain and ask him or her to describe their surroundings, they will tell you that they are on a flat disc covered by a dome.

    That's exactly what the tribesmen men who invented the Bible's creation stories thought too.

    As they say in America, "Go figure?"

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  • Message 163

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    Posted by letusreason (U5152521) on Friday, 19th March 2010

    >>Pilate is well enough documented, but even if he weren't, critical principles would argue that you couldn't make him up. It would be a dead giveaway.<<


    Well, it is easy to say that now, of course it is, but they had a different opinion back then, then they had to quickly change their opinion, as they did with proof of Belshazzar came along and over the decades, these are the higher critics that contribute to the like of the encyclopaedias Britannica and Amaericana...!

    As these men fool themselves and then have to sing a different song later on, so people like you are influenced by them [please don't tell me you're not], but unlike them, arrogance and pride prevent you from following suit...!


    I promised someone on here, that I would look into the date c. 200 BCE for the book of Daniel and why I differer from his view, a view that many entertain on here. I will create a new post on the Chritain board, because there are those on there like many of you, that believe Daniel was written in the time of the Maccabees 2nd century BCE, looking at internal and extarnal evidence...!


    letusreason

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  • Message 164

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    Posted by NicholasMarks (U8070584) on Friday, 19th March 2010

    As they say in America, "Go figure?" 

    Hindsight is a wonderful thing....Almighty God should have realised 4000 years ago that a people would become so advanced that they needed a very detailed explanation of the beginnings of time. Perhaps Jesus, after his resurrection, should have hung about in the flesh, retelling his account of events so that everyone could believe him...perhaps, even, Almighty God should have popped back every couple of years and broke all his codes about us walking to the end of days with the evil, and the good, living side by side, learning the knowledge of good and evil, or maybe, he should have presented himself to sinners when he expressly doesn't want, even to know them, unless they repent in a meaningful way.

    Maybe, he chose to ignore all objections and stick to his word. Jesus Christ is our only salvation and woven into his teaching is a wonderful knowledge which even today is too advanced for the best scientists of the Earth, who are slowly digging away and coming to realise that the energy behind the Universe is far more complicated than they could have ever imagined and like all knowledge requires special laws to harness it. And those wonderful laws are 'righteousness'...God's code of conduct, which we have known about for 2000 years, and which all mankind will have to adopt to benefit from the wonderful fruits of the Earth. As long as they don't leave it too late.

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  • Message 165

    , in reply to message 146.

    Posted by letusreason (U5152521) on Friday, 19th March 2010

    >>As already shown, you've not a clue on how evolution works or probabilty. <<



    Was I talking about evolution, even though it contradicts what science is beginning to reveal in even greater detail, how complex single celled orginisms are? Darwin hadn't a clue about what we have discovered in these modern time and he even admitted that if something came along that proved his theory wrong, it would collapse over night and it has!

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  • Message 166

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    Posted by Gamerwd (U11664650) on Friday, 19th March 2010

    I throw up 1,000,000 pennies. what are the odds of them all coming down 'heads' up?

    Those are the odds of your evolution being right!
    -------------------------------------
    Doh - yes you were

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  • Message 167

    , in reply to message 165.

    Posted by NearlySane (U3123538) on Friday, 19th March 2010

    You are replying to:

    Message posted by letusreason




    Was I talking about evolution, even though it contradicts what science is beginning to reveal in even greater detail, how complex single celled orginisms are? Darwin hadn't a clue about what we have discovered in these modern time and he even admitted that if something came along that proved his theory wrong, it would collapse over night and it has!
     


    As I've pointed out evolution is a fact, natural selection is a theory that explains why it happens..

    Your ignorance is astounding

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  • Message 168

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    Posted by Heselbine (U1612177) on Friday, 19th March 2010

    ...it would collapse over night and it has! 

    You know, you shouldn't lie. It makes baby Jesus cry.

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  • Message 169

    , in reply to message 155.

    Posted by letusreason (U5152521) on Friday, 19th March 2010

    Hello BashfulAnthony,


    Unfortunately, these kind of people cannot be convinced!

    We cannot see, feel, taste or touch gravity, but we know it exists because it manifests itself in some way... and it has a powerful pull, exertion and influence on us...!

    The spirit entity Satan, we cannot see, feel, taste or touch, but we know that it exists, because it too, like gravity manifests itself in some way... and it has a powerful pull, exertion and influence on us...!

    Aetheists and evolutionists are convinced that such an entity doesn't exist and exerts no such pull etc and so resort to riddicule etc!

    As we know, this entity wants individuals to believe such and makes sure and goes out of its way to convince them of such and as a result of his machinations, they are under his control, but it allows them to think that they are not, it pulls the strings whenever it wants to and it is as John the apostle writes:

    " 18 We know that every [person] that has been born from God does not practice sin, but the One born from God watches him, and the wicked one does not fasten his hold on him. 19 We know we originate with God, but the whole world is lying in the [power of the] wicked one. 20 But we know that the Son of God has come, and he has given us intellectual capacity that we may gain the knowledge of the true one. And we are in union with the true one, by means of his Son Jesus Christ. This is the true God and life everlasting. 21 Little children, guard yourselves from idols." 1 John 5:18-21 NWT


    And what an [abstract] idol evolution is with its faithful adherents and high priests, who serve them.

    letusreason

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  • Message 170

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    Posted by horsethorn (U1620054) on Friday, 19th March 2010

    LUR We cannot ... *_feel_* ...gravity  [my emphasis]

    Are you sure about that?

    Do you find it difficult to type, what with you & your keyboard floating around like that?

    smiley - doh

    Science knowledge fail

    ht

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  • Message 171

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    Posted by Heselbine (U1612177) on Friday, 19th March 2010

    Gravity and Satan - that's a good one.

    I've clearly missed something. I can measure the effect of gravity fairly easily by dropping an object from a height and seeing what happens.

    How do I measure Satan equivalently?

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  • Message 172

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    Posted by gonnagle (U14214447) on Friday, 19th March 2010

    Dear Woodbine,

    How do you measure satan, maybe the question should be how do we measure evil.

    This is the 21st century, we still have war,famine, poverty, disease, this little country of ours, good old GB, finds money for warships, but will not fund money for a drug that could prolong a cancer sufferers life, that is evil.

    Then again if do believe the evolutionists, we still have a long way to go, according to them man is just a blip on the map, we are just emerging from our caves, we really are not that evolved, and we still have a long way to go, just remind me again is it Darwins tree, ladder or web of life, just asking as the scientists can't make up there minds.

    No the more I think about it, the more I like another of your favourite posters science, I will follow the accurate teachings of our Lord Jesus Christ.

    Gonnagle.

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  • Message 173

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    Posted by Heselbine (U1612177) on Friday, 19th March 2010

    How do you measure satan, maybe the question should be how do we measure evil. 

    The poster compared gravity to Satan, not to evil.

    Of course there is war, famine, poverty and disease. If you look into it, I think you'll find that a reduction in each of those corresponds to the rise of science in human civilisation.

    But that's beside the point. You can measure gravity directly using straightforward experiments. Satan, or evil, or whatever, are human constructions on real events. You can measure levels of famine, for example, but ascribing that to Satan is just an assumption.

    I will follow the accurate teachings of our Lord Jesus Christ 

    Which ones are those, then?

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  • Message 174

    , in reply to message 167.

    Posted by letusreason (U5152521) on Friday, 19th March 2010

    >>As I've pointed out evolution is a fact, natural selection is a theory that explains why it happens..
    <<


    I know, you keep telling me it's a fact, like they told my grandfather about piltdown man...! I know, you keep telling me about your honest evolutionary scientists, who are always in agreement...!



    How does evolution explain 'altruism', where one complete stranger will risk his life for another?

    Survival of the fittest?


    Here's a simple little question for you, as you know the "facts".

    The building blocks of life are called amino acids.

    What are the chances of all life's amino being left handed?

    And yet *all* of life's amini acids are left handed!

    Now, when you can tell me how blind abstract evolution managed it and you have the answer, please do come back to me, as I have some more simple questions for you! smiley - winkeye

    Don't forget, it's a fact!


    letusreason




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  • Message 175

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    Posted by letusreason (U5152521) on Friday, 19th March 2010

    Can you grasp it in your hand, can you feel it, caress it?

    You know what I mean!

    Word player!

    >Science knowledge fail<

    Common sense = out of the window, unable to grasp the context, head too much in clouds of evolution heaven! smiley - doh

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  • Message 176

    , in reply to message 171.

    Posted by letusreason (U5152521) on Friday, 19th March 2010

    >>How do I measure Satan equivalently?<<


    A long time ago men who work in the mines would at times fall over and die, because there was an invisible enemy, it couldn't be touched, seen or smelt, but nevertheless it was there and it was gas...!


    You cannot see Satan, you cannot feel him, touch, know that he is there, yet he is an invisible enemy, a killer...!


    By the time you think you can measure it, you're dead and not just physically, but spiritually, he is a god and wants worship...!

    Evolution is no less a god and it needs its followers and there are huindreds of millions of them and they do not realise that they are slowly dying in many ways...!

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  • Message 177

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    Posted by smittims (U1158597) on Saturday, 20th March 2010

    Hi, letusreason , you say

    ‘these kind of people cannot be convinced! ‘

    …well, I’m sure they could, if you told them something convincing. But I’ve yet to see that here.

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  • Message 178

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    Posted by Wonderer (U14340380) on Saturday, 20th March 2010

    letusreason

    A long time ago men who work in the mines would at times fall over and die, because there was an invisible enemy, it couldn't be touched, seen or smelt, but nevertheless it was there and it was gas...! 

    Why is it wrong for those miners to give a supernatural cause to events that they did not understand, but right for you to do the same?

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  • Message 179

    , in reply to message 156.

    Posted by BashfulAnthony (U10740638) on Saturday, 20th March 2010


    Good morning, Sir Bern/


    why do you not tell me about the book of Job then? 

    First of all, when you talk of Job's rantings, surely you do not take the Book literally - I thought that was the great fault of the fundamentalists !
    This is one of the few Books of the OT that I have time for. It is a mighty effort to help in our understanding of God; and, incidentally, of high literary merit (apart from some rather turgid passages !)
    The Book deals with the problem of human suffering, especially the suffering of the innocent. Through Job's trials and tribulations, the ignorance of his "friends," we learn what faith is. But there is no answer to the main question regarding suffering. I have my own conclusion, and it is simply that God is great and Man is small; and we need to learn to trust God. I realise atheists cannot comprehend such an idea, but that is your misfortune.
    Einstein was asked how he managed to to come to develop his theories, and he replied, "I used my imagination." That is what is needed, a leap of the imagination.
    So, Bernie, please don't go on about Job's rantings, and the lack of science - you then totally miss the point.



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  • Message 180

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    Posted by Wonderer (U14340380) on Saturday, 20th March 2010

    BA

    I have my own conclusion, and it is simply that God is great and Man is small; and we need to learn to trust God. I realise atheists cannot comprehend such an idea, but that is your misfortune. 
    I have my own conclusion as well, and it is simply that God does not exist and Man is all we have; and we need to learn to trust ourselves. I realise theists cannot comprehend such an idea, but that is your misfortune.

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  • Message 181

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    Posted by Patrick (U14329301) on Saturday, 20th March 2010

    What are the chances of all life's amino being left handed?  

    if you're really interested in the theories, google is your friend sir.

    www.scientificbloggi...

    It may not be a certainty as of now, but trying to learn what you can is better than not IMO.

    Dont fear knowledge sir. There will always be something we don't know you can give God credit for.

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  • Message 182

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    Posted by BashfulAnthony (U10740638) on Saturday, 20th March 2010


    Wonderer/

    No imagination, pal !

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  • Message 183

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    Posted by Wonderer (U14340380) on Saturday, 20th March 2010

    No imagination, pal ! 

    Not sure what you're saying here. Are you saying that I need imagination to believe in God. Or are you saying that you believe in God because you don't have the imagination to believe in anything else?

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  • Message 184

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    Posted by BashfulAnthony (U10740638) on Saturday, 20th March 2010



    Not sure what you're saying here. Are you saying that I need imagination to believe in God. Or are you saying that you believe in God because you don't have the imagination to believe in anything else?  

    I'm saying that it takes a leap of the imagination to rid yourself of the banality of trite disbelief.

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  • Message 185

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    Posted by Sir Bernard Quatermass (U1732830) on Saturday, 20th March 2010

    BashfulAnthony. If you do not believe the whole bible true but pick and choose on what you believe, then it is down to your personal biases on what is infallibly true in the bible and what is false, allegory, etc.

    Job 1:1. I wanna tell ya a story!


    Apologies to Max Bygraves.

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  • Message 186

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    Posted by BashfulAnthony (U10740638) on Saturday, 20th March 2010



    SBQ/

    then it is down to your personal biases on what is infallibly true in the bible and what is false, allegory, etc. 

    Are you the only person in the world who thinks Job is a literal story ?

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  • Message 187

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    Posted by Wonderer (U14340380) on Saturday, 20th March 2010

    I'm saying that it takes a leap of the imagination to rid yourself of the banality of trite disbelief. 

    I have to say that last year, when my grandmother died, it was nice to imagine that God was there giving me support. However, that 'leap of the imagination' does not make it true.

    And yes, there may be times when life may become difficult because of that lack of (imaginary) support, but then surely that's just life.

    And guess what - I'm no longer a sinner, I'm just a normal person.

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  • Message 188

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    Posted by BashfulAnthony (U10740638) on Saturday, 20th March 2010



    However, that 'leap of the imagination' does not make it true. 

    I'm not being flippant, but you clearly did not persevere, or perhaps failed to rid yourself of your prejudices first.


    And yes, there may be times when life may become difficult because of that lack of (imaginary) support, but then surely that's just life. 

    That is simple saying again, "I failed to use my imagination." Try again, but harder.


    And guess what - I'm no longer a sinner, I'm just a normal person. 

    We're all in the same boat, my friend.

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  • Message 189

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    Posted by Wonderer (U14340380) on Saturday, 20th March 2010

    That is simple saying again, "I failed to use my imagination." Try again, but harder. 
    Do you still believe in Santa? No? Perhaps you just need to try harder!

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  • Message 190

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    Posted by BashfulAnthony (U10740638) on Saturday, 20th March 2010



    Do you still believe in Santa? No? Perhaps you just need to try harder! 

    Excellent (though unimaginative ! ) debating point. smiley - laugh

    You win a special prize: a signed, 8x10 (black and white) photo of Sam Pickles. (He lives down the road from us !)

    smiley - biggrin

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  • Message 191

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    Posted by gonnagle (U14214447) on Saturday, 20th March 2010

    Dear Wonderlugs,

    A normal person, Doctor a second opinion please, definitely a classic example of lack of imagination, next patient please.

    Gonnagle.

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  • Message 192

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    Posted by Wonderer (U14340380) on Saturday, 20th March 2010

    definitely a classic example of lack of imagination 
    Why is it that Christians on this board soon resort to insults? Is that really how weak your argument is?

    if I wasn't doubtful about being a Christian before, I would be now!

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  • Message 193

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    Posted by BashfulAnthony (U10740638) on Saturday, 20th March 2010


    Wonderer/

    I have a new word for you to look up - you obviously haven't heard it before. Its, H U M O U R.

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  • Message 194

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    Posted by Wonderer (U14340380) on Saturday, 20th March 2010

    BA

    I have a new word for you to look up - you obviously haven't heard it before 

    I'm completely re-evaluating all of my beliefs and you 'Christains' want to have a laugh about it? Fair enough - as long as we know where we stand.

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  • Message 195

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    Posted by gonnagle (U14214447) on Saturday, 20th March 2010

    Dear Wanderer,

    Knee jerk response to lines like, do you still believe in sanity clause, tell me how would you respond, until you start giving us a wee bit of respect, expect the humour.

    Gonnagle.

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  • Message 196

    , in reply to message 178.

    Posted by letusreason (U5152521) on Saturday, 20th March 2010

    >>Why is it wrong for those miners to give a supernatural cause to events that they did not understand, but right for you to do the same?<<


    Where does it say anything about a so called super natural cause, I didn't introduce the term, you did! Canaries in the end were brought in, as they in some way could detect the deadly gas...thus saving the lives of many men...!



    But I fear you have missed the point, about the unseen enemy, be it an invisible...material [gas] or an incorporeal eintity [a spirit being], seeing as both cannot be picked up by human senses, and both bring death, the latter being undetectable even with the most up to date equipment...the former can!

    Many years ago, I knew an aetheist/evolution friend way back in the 80's a strict non believer. He tried to prove the non existence of spirit beings and to prove such, he got involved with some of his friends with a "QuiJa" board.

    Let me put it this way, when things began to happen, he needed a change of trousers, to put it mildly and decided that what was moving things on the board science couldn't explain and guess what? He had second thoughts about there not being spirit beings, then we lost touch, that was about 20 years ago and I still remember it...the look on his face said it all...!

    Still I wouldn't recommend it for aetheists...! One doesn't have to jump of the cliff to be convinced that it hurts...!


    Kind Regards,


    letusreason

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  • Message 197

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    Posted by Wonderer (U14340380) on Saturday, 20th March 2010

    gonnagle

    <quote.Knee jerk response to lines like, do you still believe in sanity clause, tell me how would you respond, until you start giving us a wee bit of respect, expect the humour.</quote>

    I have to admit that I've seen you give respect to absolutely no one. You're great at the one liners and the jokes. But that's it? Is that really how seriously you take your religion?

    And if it's that simple a question then answer it - If it's just a matter of 'trying harder' to believe in God, then why can't you 'try harder' and believe in Santa?

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  • Message 198

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    Posted by gonnagle (U14214447) on Saturday, 20th March 2010

    Dear Wonderer,

    Questions like that, no I am not the most intelligent guy, but the santa claus argument is no argument, show me some respect and I will reciprocate.

    Gonnagle


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  • Message 199

    , in reply to message 198.

    Posted by Wonderer (U14340380) on Saturday, 20th March 2010

    gonnagle
    Questions like that, no I am not the most intelligent guy, but the santa claus argument is no argument, show me some respect and I will reciprocate. 
    Before Christmas I helped my sister write a letter to Santa and my parents told her to place it up the Chimney and then check again a couple of days later. When she looked there was a reply.

    She, therefore, has real evidence for the existence of Santa. However, our parents have now told her that he doesn't exist.

    So, what evidence do you have for God that his existence is so much more real?

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  • Message 200

    , in reply to message 199.

    Posted by BashfulAnthony (U10740638) on Saturday, 20th March 2010



    what evidence do you have for God that his existence is so much more real? 

    Si monumentum requiris, circumspice.

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