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  • Message 1. 

    Posted by Robert Carnegie (U982882) on Wednesday, 8th September 2010

    Since apparently anything you say here now will disappear in the next wenty-four hours, what would you like to get off your chest just once? Whether it's on a science topic or science programme topic, scarcely matters, but for the style of the thing.

    If posts will be in fact still visible but the discussion closed, well, I'm sorry I misunderstood.

    And what would I like to say? Hey Radio 4, remember years ago, when you had several different science programmes and you took almost all of them off at once? (It was also when you moved [The Archers].) And since then you bsically brought them back, one by one, with different titles? Well, that was a mistake and a waste of time. Don't do it again. Oh wait, you did ([Leading Edge].)

    Actually, you might have got away with that one better if you just ended the current series and then quietly didn't bring it back. It worked with [Doctor Who]... oh, wait, no it didn't.

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  • Message 2

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    Posted by Dermod (U14282701) on Wednesday, 8th September 2010

    "Ave, Imperator, morituri te salutant"
    en.wikipedia.org/wik...

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  • Message 3

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    Posted by hamakavula (U10736687) on Wednesday, 8th September 2010

    "You will, of course, be able to discuss Radio 4 Science programmes on the Choice is Yours topic." (anna)

    just wondering if you are actually allowed to discuss science on the 'Choice is Yours' topic? I don't know about anyone else but, as a non scientist, or indeed plasterer, i have enjoyed greatly the science discussions. I know they've got a bit wacky from time to time but that has only added to the cut and thrust for me. They got personal but overall the thinking and references were very enlightening.

    Perhaps the CIS topic can be the new science forum in the absence of the science MB. Afterall, 'the choice will be ours' and if we choose to discuss science in this place, i presume R4 will allow it.

    smiley - smiley

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  • Message 4

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    Posted by Dermod (U14282701) on Wednesday, 8th September 2010

    "You will, of course, be able to discuss Radio 4 Science programmes on the Choice is Yours topic." (anna)  If you are not allowed to 'discuss science' on the Science Board it seems a bit unlikely that the 'Choice is Yours' will allow it. Still, we may take this as 'permission'.

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  • Message 5

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    Posted by Sriram (U1722810) on Wednesday, 8th September 2010

    Hi Everyone,

    I guess this is how it'll feel if they tell us that an astroid is going to hit the earth in 24 hours!

    Goodbye everyone! Nice knowing you. See you in another world (religion boards are always there....some sort of an after-life).

    Cheers.smiley - ok

    Sriram

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  • Message 6

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    Posted by StuartG (U14275984) on Wednesday, 8th September 2010

    Wed, 08 Sep 2010 13:41 GMT, in reply to Sriram
    They're a bit late like the buses and trains...
    www.nasa.gov/home/hq...
    Cheers,
    StuartG

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  • Message 7

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    Posted by Robert Carnegie (U982882) on Wednesday, 8th September 2010

    Ah.
    "WASHINGTON -- Two asteroids will pass within the moon's distance from Earth on Wednesday, Sept. 8. NASA scientists will be available for satellite interviews Tuesday, Sept. 7, and Wednesday morning to discuss these near-Earth objects."

    And how about after lunch... oh, you can't do that? Why? Oh. Oh.

    ...actually I suppose they'll just be busy looking as the great space rocks harmlessly fly past us - this time.

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  • Message 8

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    Posted by StuartG (U14275984) on Wednesday, 8th September 2010

    Wed, 08 Sep 2010 14:40 GMT, in reply to Robert Carnegie in message 7

    NASA has been much respected in the past, but lately it's taken on a political mantle in certain parts. If the government want to make a political point with data from this source, let the politicians do it, leave the scientists to do what they do best....
    Cheers,
    StuartG

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  • Message 9

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    Posted by Dermod (U14282701) on Wednesday, 8th September 2010

    CLOSING WORDS  None so deaf as those who won't listen.

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  • Message 10

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    Posted by helen (U14258487) on Wednesday, 8th September 2010

    Dermod, I met John Peel once in a record shop in Liverpool. A guy next to us asked for something RPI and then smugly quoted something in latin. John nudged me and said 'anyone who quotes latin is a tw*t.'



    Sorry Dermod, the memory doesn't haunt me, come to the new science board, test your theory there........same old same old I fear.

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  • Message 11

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    Posted by helen (U14258487) on Wednesday, 8th September 2010

    I don't want to leave on a sour note, I love science, have a look at this www.youtube.com/watc.... What else do you need to know.....ha ha ha. Thermodynamics....phewiie!!!!!!

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  • Message 12

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    Posted by Blue_Biro (U4004117) on Wednesday, 8th September 2010

    Well I've decided to mark the closure of the boards by converting to the JW faith. The posts of James42 inspired me so much. Freedom from science, freedom from reason, freedom from research, freedom from replying to pertinent questions, freedom from grammar, freedom from spelling the word "where" correctly, freedom from admitting you've lost an argument... what's not to love?

    Tonight I'll donate my last pint of blood for old times' sake, and tomorrow I'll begin training in going door-to-door thrusting The Watch Tower in people's faces and adopting a vacant expression whenever someone points out flaws in my reasoning.

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  • Message 13

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    Posted by An_Inspector_Calls (U2459005) on Wednesday, 8th September 2010

    If this famous last words, then I'd like to endorse what Robert Carnegie has said.

    The present coverage of Science on R4 (actually, all BBC) is dire. Utterly dire.

    How is it that all facets of the arts have programmes that include serious discussion amongst contributors at a level approaching, or at, university level but science has far fewer programmes and, at best, is at trite, magazine level?

    As for technology - ugh - horid, oily rag technology - that hardly gets a look-in. Except if it's green, of course. Let's have another, 'in-depth' generation idea from Dick Strawbridge . . .

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  • Message 14

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    Posted by Robert Carnegie (U982882) on Wednesday, 8th September 2010

    Actually there is a lot of good stuff on, certainly from
    [Richard Hammond's Blast Lab] upwards!

    [Leading Edge] was a blow, though. I think [Material World] has, cuckoo-like, taken on some of its attributes...

    BBC Four television does its bit, and digital viewers as well as listeners have the radio World Service, too. (Is it still on analogue as well if you're close enough to Europe?)

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  • Message 15

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    Posted by Dermod (U14282701) on Wednesday, 8th September 2010

    John nudged me and said 'anyone who quotes latin is a tw*t.'  John Peel? Most boring voice I've ever heard, fits the pair of you like a glove!

    "Ave, Imperator, morituri te salutant."

    "Hail, Caesar! Those who are about to die, salute you."

    Yes, not only boring but humourless and uncurious - you never checked the link. Shame, you might have learned something.

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  • Message 16

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    Posted by Dermod (U14282701) on Wednesday, 8th September 2010

    Ach! My old comrade Tom Lehrer the mathematician.
    Don't think he does thermodynamics helen.smiley - devil

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  • Message 17

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    Posted by me (U14258191) on Wednesday, 8th September 2010

    "John nudged me and said 'anyone who quotes Latin is a tw*t.'"

    Oh well! Nil Desperandum.

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  • Message 18

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    Posted by Lawrence Jones (U4805414) on Wednesday, 8th September 2010

    Message 13
    As for technology - ugh - horid, oily rag technology - that hardly gets a look-in. Except if it's green, of course. 
    This is certainly true of R4. The station is only interested in academics - some of whom have clearly never had any practical experience in their life (especially the physicists).

    Channel 5's 'Britain's Greatest Machines' (presented by Chris Barrie) was a good series for those interested in the history of engineering (natgeotv.com/asia/br... ) There was a good programme on the Deltic, including details and history of the two stroke engine that powered it:
    www.google.co.uk/img...

    and
    www.google.co.uk/img...

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  • Message 19

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    Posted by helen (U14258487) on Wednesday, 8th September 2010

    xpdnc and Dermod.... you're so funny. There's no depth to wit though there is always hope.......say it out loud? Oh heavens.......thought my 'sea to gamma' joke (on another thread) was quite good but it fell upon stony ground.

    AIC, it's come to the end and I find I'm in agreement with you, whatever next! People talk you know.........bye everyone.

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  • Message 20

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    Posted by AZomby (U14244407) on Wednesday, 8th September 2010

    I would just like to say that, as far as I'm concerned, Hawking can shove his theories where the Dawkins shoves it's nuts.
    Cheers smiley - ale

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  • Message 21

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    Posted by Kiteman (U1056601) on Wednesday, 8th September 2010

    "Closing words"

    Admin staff / Radio 4 / accountants:

    You are making an appalling, misguided mistake.

    You are contravening the BBC's remit to educate.

    You could have closed a couple of Archers boards to make the same savings - are the Trustees all Archers fans?

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  • Message 22

    , in reply to message 15.

    Posted by Principled (U8899543) on Wednesday, 8th September 2010

    Well, all I can say is that I leave the country for a few days and you lot get the board closed down! And worse, I'm stuck with a mobile internet that loads like a cart horse!
    Anyway, I'd like to say thanks to a few posters for keeping me on my toes mentally and for advancing my knowledge in some areas.
    To STA and Biker, for their straight talking and rather unforgiving approach to what they call woo woo science.
    To AIC and CP for showing how absurd (at best) is the current rush to renewables and to others for discussing the many shortcomings of electric (Zero emission !!!!!) cars.
    To Dermod and Helen for their frequent posting battles. I just hope black bodies continue to absorb and emit.
    To Grumfy for his many tales.
    To LL for his questions, and I hope that in his lifetime they will invent the perpetual motion battery that charges itself whilst supplying current!
    To Siriam for his - sometimes- oblique questions.
    There are many more I could mention, but I suspect uploading this message is going to take some time with my current mobile.

    For me,the only positive thing about this board's closure is that I will not be tempted away from my list a DIY jobs to do a couple of crafty postings whilst the wife thinks I'm tiling/painting/plaqstering/lawn cutting...
    To the BBC, closing this board is absurd. The UK is losing its place in the world of science and technology and your response is to close a technical board and keep the Bull open! I was rather hoping that some of the BBc's news correspondents might read this board from time to time and learn a bit before (as was the case recently with solar panels on BBC 1) presenting a feature in which all they do is repeat the hype produced by the marketing dept of the component manufacturer.
    Adios mis amigos, until we meet again.smiley - ok
    P

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  • Message 23

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    Posted by Robert Carnegie (U982882) on Wednesday, 8th September 2010

    Flanders and Swann for thermodynamics, Tom Lehrer for the periodic table!

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  • Message 24

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    Posted by oldpythonboy (U10772388) on Wednesday, 8th September 2010

    Oooh P

    I'm so upset that you did not mention me after trading pictures of our extremely hairy wives. smiley - laugh

    You pensioners are all the same!

    Also craveyboy wiv his hilarious 'as a plasterer', StuartG with his argument pausing insights.

    And STA and AIC ( I know they hated each other) for their scientific input.

    SB deserves a mention. There it was!

    But most of all JR's mum (love her or hate her) whose input on AGW offered so many contentious links and caused so much debate.

    I also used to look forward to rsmiths posts to se how far he could push the mods (But now I can see them on the new website. Don't you think he has toned down a bit?). And ashley, it's a good job Dennis Healy is not still a cabinet minister smiley - winkeye.

    Abacus: L'Ingenu.

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  • Message 25

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    Posted by StuartG (U14275984) on Wednesday, 8th September 2010

    Wed, 08 Sep 2010 22:18 GMT, in reply to oldpythonboy in message 24

    Cor, I'm in tears.....
    Silly Billy

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  • Message 26

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    Posted by ashleyhr (U14203741) on Wednesday, 8th September 2010

    Hawkins Dawkins Dawking Hawking...

    Evolution or Devolution?

    Over and out!

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  • Message 27

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    Posted by U14576049 (U14576049) on Wednesday, 8th September 2010

    Today on radio 4 on several reports we heard that Vince Cable was advocating applying some odd way of determining which science projects would be worth giving money to.

    It was also reported (several times) that he didn't know what he was talking about.

    How ironic!

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  • Message 28

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    Posted by U14576049 (U14576049) on Wednesday, 8th September 2010

    And as we are saying our goodbyes to those who have brightened our lives by shining a light through the keyhole of communication that is these messageboards, may I take the oportunity to pay tribute to some that may have departed some time ago but nonetheless gave such enjoyment.

    I have fond memories of Sonofkoko, who always seemed to be unfairly chastised, to Alice de Darling, and Arthur Mo's ever witty and incisive posts, and to Jenna Rator and Juan Curr for posts which seemed to me to indicate nothing short of genius.
    I will miss them all.

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  • Message 29

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    Posted by hamakavula (U10736687) on Thursday, 9th September 2010

    good to see that, in these fading hours, you got your name back Ivor.

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  • Message 30

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    Posted by U14576049 (U14576049) on Thursday, 9th September 2010

    Small comfort, ham, small comfort, after all, what's in a name?

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