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suzeemoon, congratulations for having the courage and intelligence to write so well on such a topic.
In Australia, it is a fairly widely held perception of the British upper class that they like to have their bottoms smacked, a throw back from "nanny" etc. This is of course the cliche that haunts politicians, coupled with images of them dressing in black stockings and frilly aprons (and yes, I do mean males).
I have to ask you a question though, and I desperately hope it isnt offensive. Please trust me, it isnt meant to be, ok?
You have been very clear on your sexual tastes and your right to them. I support you wholeheartedly. However, I don't understand the need for public acceptance. Why do you have a problem with this being a covert activity rather than one which is "out there in the public eye"? May I, very very nervously, ask you, do you think maybe there is a touch of another fetish involved here, that of exhibitionism? Please don't be angry if I am wrong, and yet again I am not trying to be unkind, just understand.
I reckon any two consenting adults can do what they like between themselves. I just don't understand the need for "public acceptance".
suzeemoon, I am a rather fat woman. The public have a job accepting my fatness, but I have learned to say "oh well". I can't be bothered to "take them on".
I urge you to enjoy yourself and not worry about others perceptions. Love, lily x

It makes perfect sense sweetheart. You enjoy yourself. Life's short. Sending you a whopper hug. Lilyxxx

In a similar vein, re public acceptance, I've often wondered why homosexuals feel the need to "come out".

People may disagree here, but the way I see it homosexuality is very widely accepted now - I just don't see it as a big deal. I'm interested in people for who they are, I really don't mind whether they prefer men or women or both, I just don't consider it any of my business what they're up to between the sheets.

So when someone announces to me that they're gay(when it has never even crossed my mind to consider whether they're heterosexual or otherwise, given that I'm not interested in them in that way), I just don't understand why it's important to them that I'm made aware of their sexuality.....

Fe203Girl

You misunderstand me - I didn't mean they should keep their OH a secret! But why the big announcement? It would be like me arranging a get-together for family and friends to say "folks, I have something to tell you - I'm straight". Get my drift?!

If I work with a fella who's talking to me about what him & his OH, Geoff, did at the weekend, I'm gonna know they're gay anyway. There's no need for them to spell it out for me. That's the point I was making....

Forgive me for being frivolous, but I feel duty bound to share one of the gems from Humphrey Littleton's storehouse of remarks from "Clue"

"My nanny used to spank me and it didn't do me any harm. Though it did make me late for this performance."

Must admit I find it strange that Moseley is suing on the basis that something that is private is not in the public interest and should be private, when the very act of suing ensures long-drawn out publicity and that anyone who didn't know before certainly will now, not to mention that his family, whom he said he acted to protect, are now suffering even more from a loss of privacy.

We could, I suppose talk about suing to establish a matter of principle and record, but I doubt Moseley and principles make very good bedfellows. Not when you consider that he was quoted in the S Times saying he felt "betrayed" by the woman who had gone public. I guess the irony of him having a hissy fit over being betrayed, while spending 40 years or more betraying his wife completely passed him by.......

I guess people in power live by different rules to mere mortals.....

artistlily,
"I just don't understand the need for "public acceptance".

Unfortunately there are people and pressure groups who think that what consenting adults get up to is their concern as well.
news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/...

plus suzee, I think xena would be pretty open abut being a spankee,dont you?

plus suzee, I think xena would be pretty open abut being a spankee,dont you?

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And who would dare to refuse her?!
I think I once heard/read that Katherine the Great enjoyed being whipped...

I think it is rather hard to feel much empathy with Mosley, but I think he does actually have a point. There are many with such 'desires' who feel it unfair or unacceptable to act out stuff with their loved ones and so 'play away' from home. I'm not defending or judging - just saying it happens as with other sexual outlets/behaviours.

The NotW did blow his privacy and cause exposure to his innocent family. Of course he is prolonging the agony, by the case, but if he'd slunk away they'd have got away with it. If he wins, they may think twice before doing same to somebody else.

Of course he betrayed his wife, but most of us I suspect, feel let down by a 'betrayal' no matter how unworthy of loyalty we may be.