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  • Message 51

    , in reply to message 50.

    Posted by technologist (U1259929) on Wednesday, 23rd April 2014


    However, when the viewer is struggling to hear dialogue through the 'BACKGROUND' music, it is actually FOREGROUND music, and is unacceptable. 


    Yes it is and Danny Cohen has said so www.bbc.co.uk/academ...
    but it also is the mumbling ......
    and the BBC is doing a lot to improve the industry wide
    www.bbc.co.uk/academ...

    Please complain ..... it takes only 10 complaints to trigger the programme to be reviewed......
    and if found lacking it will not be repeated or sold until the sound is sorted out
    at the programme makers Expense (not the BBC).
    (as most Programme makers rely on this money for their profit .. this is an great incentive!)


    ...... and for the future when Files (not tapes) are delivered the Quality check process will lie more with the programme makers and they and their POST houses are being trained to get it right ....!!!!
    there is also a requirement to get Loudness right - and this also makes the sound have more dynamic range and taking a bit more attention to sound from before the microphone.

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  • Message 52

    , in reply to message 51.

    Posted by GZ (U5310554) ** on Wednesday, 23rd April 2014


    Yes it is and Danny Cohen has said so but it also is the mumbling ......
    and the BBC is doing a lot to improve the industry wide
     


    That is a bit braggadoccio.

    I have never once had a problem with mumbling or unintelligible dialog or incredibly poor sound on any terrestrial or cable stations as has received such a MASSIVE outpouring of complaints on this BBC message board about 2 programmes in the last 4 months - Jamaica Inn and Ripper Street before it.

    To suggest that the BBC is doing a lot to improve sound quality "industry wide" when they clearly are struggling to get the sound right on their own programmes seems a bit overly boastful to be honest.

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  • Message 53

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    Posted by Cornish Pixie (U8483529) on Wednesday, 30th April 2014

    For people who like plenty of atmosphere and background noise Jamica Inn is the program for you. Cannot hear the speech ? No matter, not important.

    One Cornish expression : "he do knaw like a uman" i.e He is not a human being but he understands like one" . Make what you will of that ! smiley - biggrin

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  • Message 54

    , in reply to message 52.

    Posted by Wendy RedredRobin (U1164931) on Wednesday, 7th May 2014

    The BBC should look to local radio too. Our local radio breakfast show is totally blighted by silly "happy" beat music, which is cranked up every time the presenter draws breath.

    Yes I complained to the station but was told that to have a "bed" of distinctive music identified the station.

    It may identify the station but it makes us identify the "off" controls as soon as we have gleaned the important local News headlines!!

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  • Message 55

    , in reply to message 54.

    Posted by Bethgem (U14263559) on Monday, 12th May 2014

    I am anti bgm, but to take it out altogether is not my point of view.

    I agree with the poster Jak and want him to know that I too have posted many times before, elsewhere, about the intrusiveness of musical noise in TV programmes, especially over dialogue. I see that the debate continues, here.

    For what it is worth, that is my point of view and I do not wish to upset anyone by it. Take note TCR!!! I am not proposing a war!!!
    smiley - smiley

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  • Message 56

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    Posted by ChrisSays... (U1400129) on Wednesday, 14th May 2014

    I am convinced that the "don't want it" are in the minority. 
    And I am convinced the "don't want it" are in the majority.

    So what? 
    Our opinions clearly differ but what is more significant than either of them is the opinions of the programme makers.

    THEY clearly think that background music enhances their work and that it will please more viewers than it displease (as they are all desperate for large audiences). 
    I fly a lot. Some people (I have heard two in ym life) ask why they can't have a deeper, more comfortable seat at the expense of a life jacket receptacle under their seat.

    I've never heard anyone bangin on about them "wanting" to have a life jacket, or oxygen, therefore the majority of people are obviously not bothered about having one or not. It's obvious. Ludicrous logic. Idiot.

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  • Message 57

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    Posted by caissier (U14073060) on Wednesday, 14th May 2014

    The practice is spreading from tv to radio ..... at sad moments in programmes of various kinds sad music is played with sad speech about a sad subject to let you know that it is ..... sad.

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  • Message 58

    , in reply to message 57.

    Posted by seaglennon (U9259670) on Thursday, 15th May 2014

    how sad

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  • Message 59

    , in reply to message 51.

    Posted by Radioactiveoldduffer (U4768882) on Thursday, 15th May 2014


    However, when the viewer is struggling to hear dialogue through the 'BACKGROUND' music, it is actually FOREGROUND music, and is unacceptable. 


    Yes it is and Danny Cohen has said so www.bbc.co.uk/academ...
    but it also is the mumbling ......
    and the BBC is doing a lot to improve the industry wide
    www.bbc.co.uk/academ...

    Please complain ..... it takes only 10 complaints to trigger the programme to be reviewed......
    and if found lacking it will not be repeated or sold until the sound is sorted out
    at the programme makers Expense (not the BBC).
    (as most Programme makers rely on this money for their profit .. this is an great incentive!)


    ...... and for the future when Files (not tapes) are delivered the Quality check process will lie more with the programme makers and they and their POST houses are being trained to get it right ....!!!!
    there is also a requirement to get Loudness right - and this also makes the sound have more dynamic range and taking a bit more attention to sound from before the microphone. 
    Would a car manufacturer allow subcontractors to supply parts not knowing if they meet the defined specifications? The BBC must have some quality control before transmission even if the programme is independently made. If scrutiny is lax or not applied at all what will happen when a 'banned' word slips through?
    You seem to know a lot about the BBC technical side so can you tell me if the drive for cross platform devices is affecting the way television broadcast sound is produced?

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