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    Posted by A-Don (U1633884) on Tuesday, 8th October 2013

    Disappointed to find that with the new BBC iPlayer there's no option to download a series nor is there an option to select just where the programmes are downloaded to.

    The beeb are saying the series download option has gone because not enough people were using it; is that the right answer for a public service broadcaster?

    The lack of an option to choose where downloads are stored strikes me as shortsighted; there's an increasing number of computers where the C drive is a SSD. Those have a lot less storage space than mechanical hard drives. They're also a lot more expensive so many users of them make a point of storing files elsewhere to maximise the life of the SSD.

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    Posted by Lionwillow70 (U14638292) on Wednesday, 9th October 2013

    The whole thing is flawed.

    1. no series download, which is SO useful.
    2. once you have downloaded the new software, it keeps on prompting you as to whether you have downloaded it or not....once on the system, that should stop
    3. No choices on settings, i.e.where the files are kept
    4. No download times that I can find
    5. No chance to decide how much memory you want to use up with iPlayer downloads.

    ...and I'm sure much, much more.

    I used to rave about the iPlayer, but it's almost unusable now....I use it on several devices, and the only one that's still OK is my mini iPad.....

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    Posted by A-Don (U1633884) on Wednesday, 9th October 2013

    No denying that the old iPlayer had some major problems with reliablity and the best way to sort that out was to start afresh like they have done. However it screams out that what they've released isn't finished as seen by a settings page where you can't change anything. I'd class it as being at the beta stage in devolpment and that's not something tradionally released to the general public; unless you're Google. Maybe that's where the iPlayer programmers came from?

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    Posted by sanity (U2808238) on Wednesday, 9th October 2013

    It seems so obvious to me that the BBC should publish a specification for access to their content so that independent developers can develop applications for platforms they care about. This would leave the BBC free to develop the applications they want in their own time.

    It's a bit like the web - you don't need a special application to browse your favourite newspaper's web site. Instead, there's a specification for providing their content (HTML) and independent developers produce the applications. Don't like Internet Explorer? Then use FireFox. Or Opera. Or Chrome.

    There's a whole community of developers out there ready and willing to compete with each other to produce the best application (without costing the BBC - and hence us - a penny) but without information from the BBC, there's little they can do.

    Alas, it's even worse than that - there's at least one developer who has managed to figure it out for themselves and develop an application that has been sent a "cease and desist" letter from the BBC.

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    Posted by Piltdown (U6504098) on Wednesday, 9th October 2013

    As well as the irritations already listed I'm annoyed by the way the lower third of the screen is obliterated by a panel with the name and details of the programme I'm watching every time I move the cursor. Whoever thought this would in any way be useful? The progress bar that let you know how long the download would take is also no longer there.

    Overall it's not an improvement.

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    Posted by Phil-ap (U13637313) on Tuesday, 15th October 2013

    The elephant in the room is the licence fee in the digital age. I wonder if iPlayer is being beefed up to allow for subscription only in the future. I can envisage the licence fee being held when it is next reviewed with some progammes being offered on subscription only both in the UK and around the world on iPlayer.

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    Posted by Lionwillow70 (U14638292) on Friday, 18th October 2013

    I've been reading comments about this on various boards; I have deleted the software now as it's no longer user friendly and a main attraction, the series download, has been removed.

    I also think a better version WILL appear but, as you say, as subscription only.

    I've already bought a series pass from iTunes for Orphan Black as I was unable to record all episodes....so have paid twice for the pleasure of watching it....

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    Posted by EggOnAStilt (U7111730) on Friday, 18th October 2013

    The elephant in the room is the licence fee in the digital age. I wonder if iPlayer is being beefed up to allow for subscription only in the future. I can envisage the licence fee being held when it is next reviewed with some progammes being offered on subscription only both in the UK and around the world on iPlayer.  Well going down that path more fool the silly burgers for paying subscriptions.

    DVD recorders, PVR recorders, the bog standard computer in the home with a cheap add on and a cable for a couple of quid will record what you need, smart TVs will record as well. All transferable to phones and tablets......

    Only the lazysmiley - doh, or people daft with their cashsmiley - doh, who can't be bothered to plan or swap a few files from the computersmiley - doh, will be the future customerssmiley - doh.

    They'll make millions

    smiley - friedegg

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    Posted by Lionwillow70 (U14638292) on Friday, 18th October 2013

    ..or those who aren't too technically minded...

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    Posted by EggOnAStilt (U7111730) on Friday, 18th October 2013

    Sorry, I don't believe that so much.
    Whenever change has come that cannot be avoided, the non technically minded seem to manage. Or perhaps there are millions still sat round their analogue TVs waiting for the philips video recorder that will finally tune into channel 5. Forlornly swapping the valves about in the rear hoping UHF will attach 625 lines to the coathanger plugged in the back of the something that looks like a radio but has moving pictures on a square no bigger than a phablet.

    smiley - friedegg

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    Posted by technologist (U1259929) ** on Friday, 18th October 2013

    It seems so obvious to me that the BBC should publish a specification for access to their content so that independent developers can develop applications for platforms they care about.".......

    Alas, it's even worse than that - there's at least one developer who has managed to figure it out for themselves and develop an application that has been sent a "cease and desist" letter from the BBC. 


    The BBC has to protect the rights of the content owners and thus does tend to require closed systems ....
    But it has made the television adaption layer open source
    www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/...
    www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/...
    And the site itself fmtvp.github.io/tal/...

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    Posted by TeenaandCleo (U15746512) on Saturday, 19th October 2013

    Lord Hall recently told us that the troublesome BBC i-Player Desktop was being replaced by the much more reliable BBC i-Player Downloads. Well for the last three days this new software (on my PC at least) has not been working. The message ‘Temporary error downloading (all my previous downloads). Will try again soon’. So much for the Lord Hall promise. He should not pontificate on subjects he clearly knows little about.

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    Posted by Phil-ap (U13637313) on Saturday, 19th October 2013

    The elephant in the room is the licence fee in the digital age. I wonder if iPlayer is being beefed up to allow for subscription only in the future. I can envisage the licence fee being held when it is next reviewed with some progammes being offered on subscription only both in the UK and around the world on iPlayer.  Well going down that path more fool the silly burgers for paying subscriptions.

    DVD recorders, PVR recorders, the bog standard computer in the home with a cheap add on and a cable for a couple of quid will record what you need, smart TVs will record as well. All transferable to phones and tablets......

    Only the lazysmiley - doh, or people daft with their cashsmiley - doh, who can't be bothered to plan or swap a few files from the computersmiley - doh, will be the future customerssmiley - doh.

    They'll make millions

    smiley - friedegg 
    Netflix seem to manage it why not the BBC.

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    Posted by davepyper57 (U8345601) on Sunday, 20th October 2013

    SORRY BBC WHY IS IT IM UNABLE TO LISTEN NOT AGAIN BUT FOR THE FIRST TIME IF ABLE TOO (WRONG WORDING BBC ) TO LAST WEEKS SHOW WHILST NEW SHOW IS GOING OUT LIVE ON THE DIGITAL AIRWAVES GOOD EXAMPLE PAUL OGRADY SHOW NOT ABLE TO LISTEN NOT AGAIN BUT FOR FIRST TIME LAST WEEK SHOW . 7 DAYS LISTEN BACK IS NOT TRUE TO ITS WORD 7 DAYS IS SAY 7PM 19TH OCT TO 26TH 7PM NOT WITH THE BBC THERE 7 DAYS ONLY LAST 6DAYS 22 HOURS IT APPEARS EXPLANATION NEEDED NOW .

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    Posted by puppydogeyes (U14659366) on Sunday, 20th October 2013

    Why shouting?

    Why post on here?-you will not get a reply from The BBC

    Try this perhaps

    https://iplayerhelp...

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    Posted by Onslow The Cat (U13672446) on Sunday, 20th October 2013

    SORRY BBC WHY IS IT IM UNABLE TO LISTEN NOT AGAIN BUT FOR THE FIRST TIME IF ABLE TOO (WRONG WORDING BBC ) TO LAST WEEKS SHOW WHILST NEW SHOW IS GOING OUT LIVE ON THE DIGITAL AIRWAVES GOOD EXAMPLE PAUL OGRADY SHOW NOT ABLE TO LISTEN NOT AGAIN BUT FOR FIRST TIME LAST WEEK SHOW . 7 DAYS LISTEN BACK IS NOT TRUE TO ITS WORD 7 DAYS IS SAY 7PM 19TH OCT TO 26TH 7PM NOT WITH THE BBC THERE 7 DAYS ONLY LAST 6DAYS 22 HOURS IT APPEARS EXPLANATION NEEDED NOW . 

    davepyper57 always posts with the CAP LOCK button on smiley - dog despite registering in lower case.

    Just ignore the posts whatever is made smiley - laugh

    smiley - blackcat

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    Posted by EggOnAStilt (U7111730) on Sunday, 20th October 2013

    Hi smiley - blackcat smiley - hug

    We embrace the quirkiness of posters do we not smiley - winkeye..........


    Well as long as they don't duplicate threads, or insult people or.......break another rule or use caps lol

    smiley - fullmoon

    smiley - friedegg

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    Posted by Quentin (U15231277) on Friday, 1st November 2013

    I fail to understand the waste of money that has gone into destroying the iplayer download ecosystem.

    Before: we could download DRM .wmv files that would play on any player on our home computers or mobiles. We could also put these files anywhere we wanted to, e.g. download on the home computer and drag them onto the mobile.

    Excellent.

    Now the Beeb has spent money on:
    - designing (at least) two new download programmes, one for home use and at least one for mobile.
    - designing (at least) two new custom players, one for home use and at least one for mobile
    - two different forms of encoding and DRM, one for home (.m4a) and one for mobile (.ismv)

    This means that both my home computer and mobile are gummed up with four unnecessary pieces of software (2 downloaders and 2 players - albeit that the downloading and playing functions are wrapped up in individual programmes) and I have to spend time downloading two different copies of everything as I can no longer transfer files between the two platforms and, heaven forfend, I cannot place the downloaded files in the most logical place (e.g. exterrnal drive on PC or SD card on mobile).

    How much money has been spent to go this far backwards ?
    H.G. Wells would have been fascinated.

    QL

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    Posted by NorthCareer (U14493588) on Tuesday, 12th November 2013

    you should feel sorry for people that have SIM only mobile deals and because their phones are no longer "hi-tech" can no longer watch i-player on the phone just to catch up where there's no TV - so much for a public service broadcaster....so not only am I supposed to stump up a hundred and odd quid they also want me to buy a new phone and pay £30 a month for that too....

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    Posted by EggOnAStilt (U7111730) on Tuesday, 12th November 2013

    Interesting that the tablet, phone is considered a must have receiver.

    People object to paying the LFee and yet cough up many multiple times that amount for a small version of a home TV to watch the so called rip off service on.

    smiley - friedegg

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    Posted by puppydogeyes (U14659366) on Wednesday, 13th November 2013

    you should feel sorry for people that have SIM only mobile deals and because their phones are no longer "hi-tech" can no longer watch i-player on the phone just to catch up where there's no TV - so much for a public service broadcaster....so not only am I supposed to stump up a hundred and odd quid they also want me to buy a new phone and pay £30 a month for that too....  Sorry-why?

    No one is forcing you to use the phone-so you dont HAVE to do pay anything extra -that is your choice.

    Or are you suggesting that as licence fee payers we all chip in so you can watch telly on the move or whatever.

    Seems a strange point to make-in my opinion.

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    Posted by Sue_Aitch (U3336990) on Wednesday, 13th November 2013

    My mobile phone is a PAYG I use for emergencies only. I watch iPlayer on a TV that has an analogue tuner connected to a Sony smart Blu Ray player.

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    Posted by NorthCareer (U14493588) on Friday, 15th November 2013

    you should feel sorry for people that have SIM only mobile deals and because their phones are no longer "hi-tech" can no longer watch i-player on the phone just to catch up where there's no TV - so much for a public service broadcaster....so not only am I supposed to stump up a hundred and odd quid they also want me to buy a new phone and pay £30 a month for that too....  Sorry-why?

    No one is forcing you to use the phone-so you dont HAVE to do pay anything extra -that is your choice.

    Or are you suggesting that as licence fee payers we all chip in so you can watch telly on the move or whatever.

    Seems a strange point to make-in my opinion. 
    What I mean is that the i-player was supported on my old phone and I pay something for that service to be supported. The BBC now deem my phone obsolete and as I have a SIM-only deal to utilize my i-player (that i pay for) I'd need a whole new phone that the BBC deems worthy of their support....

    So in other words its creating a digital apartheid between those that can afford brand new 4G phones or at least 3.5G phones and anyone stuck with a 3G phone that did but no longer is supported by i-player.

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    Posted by Sue_Aitch (U3336990) on Saturday, 16th November 2013

    That is the nature of technology: the software does not always keep up with new functionality. See the comments on news.bbc.co.uk/local... regarding the set-top boxes that became bricks on 30th September 2009.

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