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Message 1.
Posted by Peter (U15306870) on Monday, 11th February 2013
Dear Everyone,
there seems to be some concern about the future of the Points of View message board following today's announcement regarding The Archers board.
To reassure you - here is a brief statement on this from Rowan Kerek Robertson who is the Editorial Lead for Social Media, BBC Vision:
"There are currently no plans at all to close the Points of View messageboard"
I hope that clarifies the situation.
Peter -
Message 2
Posted by Spartacus (U14243804) on Monday, 11th February 2013
Current - they told us that at the Archers too.
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Message 3
Posted by Egg On A Stilt (U7111730) on Monday, 11th February 2013
They said the Titanic was safe too!
Do you realise how many boards have been closed over the last couple of years? The past assurances and the way blogs were pushed at us do not exactly fill us with confidence that these boards will remain off the cutting agenda.
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Message 4
Posted by Onslow The Cat (U13672446) on Monday, 11th February 2013
the Titanic was never advertised as safe, just unsinkable 
There was a commitment from a now departed BBC exec that explained some of what BBC online was supposed to do. Although from 2010 it's worth a read.
www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/...
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Message 5
Posted by Egg On A Stilt (U7111730) on Monday, 11th February 2013
Hi
So the BBC Trust is the iceberg then?
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Message 6
Posted by Sue_Aitch (U3336990) on Tuesday, 12th February 2013
Both the 6 Music boards are going too, so leaving Learning English's www.bbc.co.uk/dna/mb... and
www.bbc.co.uk/dna/mb... and this and the BBC Televsion programmes POV messageboards as the continuing services from 25 February 2012. -
Message 7
Posted by Essential Rabbit (U3613943) on Tuesday, 12th February 2013
"There are currently no plans at all to close the Points of View messageboard"
I hope that clarifies the situation.
Not even slightly.
Experience has taught me that such statements are about as reliable as:
"The PM has complete confidence in the minister", shortly before he/she is forced to resign. -
Message 8
Posted by Sue_Aitch (U3336990) on Tuesday, 12th February 2013
How it used to be:
www.bbc.co.uk/messag... -
Message 9
Posted by Cucumber (U2440869) on Tuesday, 12th February 2013
To reassure you - here is a brief statement on this from Rowan Kerek Robertson who is the Editorial Lead for Social Media, BBC Vision:
"There are currently no plans at all to close the Points of View messageboard"
They said that at the Bull, only a few months ago IIRC.
I do not think that there is any reassurance that can be given. One day someone will decide to close this board and I doubt anyone can predict or guarantee how far off that will be. -
Message 10
Posted by Cucumber (U2440869) on Tuesday, 12th February 2013
How it used to be:
www.bbc.co.uk/messag...
Some great boards on that list. Wish I'd have got into the message boarding thing years before I did. -
Message 11
Posted by St Maddenus patron saint of reprobates (U14314874) on Tuesday, 12th February 2013
I think we can be reassured that it isnt closing in the next 2 weeks....
There are no Immediate plans but lets face it the Host can do NOTHING if the BBC decides to close it. Let's not shoot the messenger.
www.bbc.co.uk/progra...
at about 33 seconds.....
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Message 12
Posted by FowPah (U1746998) on Thursday, 14th February 2013
Thanks for shutting down my thread Peter.At least POV is staying open (for now)
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Message 13
Posted by Peter (U15306870) on Friday, 15th February 2013
Thanks for shutting down my thread Peter.At least POV is staying open (for now) It is off topic for this board - and just in case you weren't aware - there is a further blog post from Radio 4 Interactive Editor Nigel Smith dealing with user reaction to the decision to close The Archers message board.
Here it is:
www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/...
Thanks,
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Message 14
Posted by FowPah (U1746998) on Friday, 15th February 2013
Thanks, if you had read through it you will have seen me posting.Sad times.
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Message 15
This posting has been hidden during moderation because it broke the House Rules in some way.
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Message 16
This posting has been hidden during moderation because it broke the House Rules in some way.
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Message 17
This posting has been hidden during moderation because it broke the House Rules in some way.
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Message 18
This posting has been hidden during moderation because it broke the House Rules in some way.
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Message 19
Posted by Turner (U14992668) on Friday, 15th February 2013
Oh look! Half of *this* thread's gone now! I'm shocked, surprised, aghast, etc.
You know what, I'll probably miss these boards a lot less than I thought, once they've gone. -
Message 20
Posted by usernamefood (U15217708) on Sunday, 17th February 2013
Should I start up a forum for BBC POV and The Archers?
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Message 21
Posted by Peta (U24) on Monday, 18th February 2013
No thank you usernamefood.
The BBC Points of View message board isn't closing, and there are plenty of well-established external Archers forums already, that have been created by people who have been using the Archers boards for years.
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Message 22
Posted by Spartacus (U14243804) on Monday, 18th February 2013
Does that mean we can't discuss The Archers on here Peta? After all it is a BBC programme.
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Message 23
Posted by Peta (U24) on Monday, 18th February 2013
Does that mean we can't discuss The Archers on here Peta? After all it is a BBC programme.
Radio programmes, presenters etc are off-topic for this board Angua - as it says at the top of the board.
So no - this can't become a new place to discuss the Archers.
You're very welcome to come and join in with our community and discuss BBC TV programmes though.
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Message 24
Posted by minimetto (U1159894) on Monday, 18th February 2013
No thank you usernamefood.
The BBC Points of View message board isn't closing, and there are plenty of well-established external Archers forums already, that have been created by people who have been using the Archers boards for years.
Could you please direct me to the 'plenty of well-established external Archers forums' to which you refer? Most grateful for your assistance of course! -
Message 25
Posted by Ser cricket-Angel (U3382697) on Monday, 18th February 2013
I think we'd like to discuss the closing of the Archers MBs, not the programme itself. Is that not allowed either?
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Message 26
Posted by St Maddenus patron saint of reprobates (U14314874) on Monday, 18th February 2013
What about "THE BBC" surely it could be discussed there?
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Message 27
Posted by Ser cricket-Angel (U3382697) on Monday, 18th February 2013
No thank you usernamefood.
The BBC Points of View message board isn't closing, and there are plenty of well-established external Archers forums already, that have been created by people who have been using the Archers boards for years.
Could you please direct me to the 'plenty of well-established external Archers forums' to which you refer? Most grateful for your assistance of course! Here you go www.bbc.co.uk/dna/mb...
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Message 28
Posted by Essential Rabbit (U3613943) on Monday, 18th February 2013
What about "THE BBC" surely it could be discussed there? There was a thread which the temporary host closed for being off topic.
When I asked him on this thread why it was off-topic, he removed my question rather then answering it. -
Message 29
Posted by Peta (U24) on Monday, 18th February 2013
I think we'd like to discuss the closing of the Archers MBs, not the programme itself. Is that not allowed either?
Well not really no - because it is about radio and there are already several places on the BBC message boards and blogs where this is already being discussed.
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Message 30
Posted by DoverSoul (U14934992) ** on Monday, 18th February 2013
Could it be discussed in the Green Room?
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Message 31
Posted by Spartacus (U14243804) on Monday, 18th February 2013
Sorry I only listen to the Radio - where can that be discussed please?
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Message 32
Posted by Peta (U24) on Monday, 18th February 2013
In theory yes I guess so, but we can't offer the Green room up as an alternative forum for the Archers - their community will hold together better if they all go en masse to one of the non-BBC forums.
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Message 33
Posted by Peta (U24) on Monday, 18th February 2013
Sorry I only listen to the Radio - where can that be discussed please?
The Radio division closed down their Radio message boards some time ago Angua - as you're probably aware.
Comments about Radio programmes can be submitted via email through the various BBC radio websites, you can also post to the BBC radio blogs.
You can also discuss BBC Radio programmes on a wide range of external websites and forums. -
Message 34
Posted by DoverSoul (U14934992) ** on Monday, 18th February 2013
Oh no, I only meant for people to vent their feelings about the closure, not as an ongoing place to discuss the programme.
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Message 35
Posted by Peta (U24) on Monday, 18th February 2013
Oh no, I only meant for people to vent their feelings about the closure, not as an ongoing place to discuss the programme.
The best place for people to vent is on the Archers blog - that way the people that they're venting towards will read their postings!
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Message 36
Posted by Ser cricket-Angel (U3382697) on Monday, 18th February 2013
Venting on the blog seems to result in getting moderated! Maybe The Bull is a better place to go.
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Message 37
Posted by Peta (U24) on Monday, 18th February 2013
Whichever you chose!
I know there have been a number of abusive posts on the blog, so people shouldn't be that surprised that they're removed. Being personally abusive won't help, it never does....
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Message 38
Posted by Ser cricket-Angel (U3382697) on Monday, 18th February 2013
No, it doesn't.
But I do sympathise with the frustration and the anger from the posters. Directing posters to blogs to discuss the closure of the messageboards just compounds the already-strained emotions
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Message 39
Posted by DoverSoul (U14934992) ** on Monday, 18th February 2013
OK, that is what I thought really, but as more than 1 Green Roomer is asking for somewhere here to discuss the closure, I just thought I'd ask.
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Message 40
Posted by Peta (U24) on Monday, 18th February 2013
I sympathise with them too - it's a terrible upheaval to have to move to a new platform, I hope they make it across safely and in reasonable numbers.
Martin, who used to work for the BBC and hosted this message board alongside me a long time ago has written these blog posts on his own blog.
I think he makes some valid points there...
Archers closure
martinbelam.com/2013...
BBC Messageboards
martinbelam.com/2013... -
Message 41
Posted by Spartacus (U14243804) on Monday, 18th February 2013
> The Radio division closed down their Radio message boards some time ago Angua - as you're probably aware. <
Not sure why you would think I would be aware of that?
Blogs are a poor excuse for communication so no thanks.
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Message 42
Posted by Spartacus (U14243804) on Monday, 18th February 2013
> The best place for people to vent is on the Archers blog - that way the people that they're venting towards will read their postings! <
All the blogs have proved is that questions raised are not answered so I can only assume that have not been read because surely the BBC would treat the questions and the questioners seriously and respond. -
Message 43
Posted by Ser cricket-Angel (U3382697) on Monday, 18th February 2013
Interesting links, Peta.
I remember both Martin and Russ weighing in during the upheaval round these parts a few years back. -
Message 44
Posted by Peta (U24) on Monday, 18th February 2013
> The Radio division closed down their Radio message boards some time ago Angua - as you're probably aware. <
Not sure why you would think I would be aware of that?
Blogs are a poor excuse for communication so no thanks.
Because you say here
www.bbc.co.uk/dna/mb...
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Message 45
Posted by Spartacus (U14243804) on Monday, 18th February 2013
No - I said I have be using ML message board for years - its the only one I have used.
As it says at the top > how long have you been on the ML? <
As ML is closing I was trying to find somewhere else to discuss BBC output that I listen too. -
Message 46
Posted by Guv-nor (U7476305) on Monday, 18th February 2013
And in Mustardland there were a number of welcoming threads for the refugees from other boards as they closed. Such as these boards www.bbc.co.uk/dna/mb...
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Message 47
This posting has been hidden during moderation because it broke the House Rules in some way.
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Message 48
All this user's posts have been removed. Why?
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Message 49
Posted by DoverSoul (U14934992) ** on Monday, 18th February 2013
And in Mustardland there were a number of welcoming threads for the refugees from other boards as they closed. Such as these boards www.bbc.co.uk/dna/mb...
Guv-nor, is that the link you meant? All the boards seem to have been closed in April 2011.
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Message 50
Posted by Peta (U24) on Monday, 18th February 2013
I think Guv was trying to point out that lots of other boards were closed, like the linked to Radio 4 ones, and many of the posters from the closed boards went to the Archers off-topic area.
When they closed, the Archers folk often put up welcome notices, for the new incoming boards...
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