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  • Message 1. 

    Posted by Wurzel (U1642877) on Thursday, 5th March 2009

    Bloody annoying when the picture keeps freezing for a second every so often especially when watching footy. I had to turn off freeview last night and watch MOTD on anologue tv, is it just me or does everyone get this problem?

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    Posted by newmelinda (U7776647) on Thursday, 5th March 2009

    I unplug and then re- plug it all in then automatically re-install it every few weeks, this seems to do the trick.

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    Posted by majorchudley (U8658940) on Thursday, 5th March 2009

    Yes, I do the same as newmelinda, and reboot it every month.

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    Posted by MM (U1821038) on Thursday, 5th March 2009

    It's free, what do you expect ? Colour ? smiley - laugh days were when you could stick a wire coat hanger in the back it would work fine....

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    Posted by Wurzel (U1642877) on Thursday, 5th March 2009

    Thanks I'll try doing that but, I've only had it a fortnight it's one of them all singing all dancing things that freezes live tv and records stuff, my old freeview box didnt play up so much and I could delete channels I never watched like QVC & BBC parliament, I can't seem to delete them on this new thingy

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    Posted by dayraven (U13717520) on Thursday, 5th March 2009

    It might be that the picture freezes as a result of bad reception rather than the software. Digital reception can be all-or-nothing.

    The box manufacturers might not have considered that people would want to delete channels. The idea surprises me a little, I'll admit.

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    Posted by Billybingle (U6845637) on Thursday, 5th March 2009

    I would be surprised if you can't choose your favourite channels and just scroll through them when you want to see what's on other channels. Most Freeview PVRs have this facility.

    My main gripe is with digital text, woefully slow.

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  • Message 8

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    Posted by julieelizabeth (U3345806) on Thursday, 5th March 2009

    Never watch QVC? How can you cope?!!!

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  • Message 9

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    Posted by Alf Hartigan (U2277114) on Thursday, 5th March 2009

    Thu, 05 Mar 2009 11:10 GMT, in reply to dayraven in message 6

    It might be that the picture freezes as a result of bad reception rather than the software. Digital reception can be all-or-nothing. 

    That's what happens to my reception occasionally, as I'm on the fringe of the mast's transmission area, and there are a couple of channels where the reception is so weak I can't get it at all. Others break up momentarily when the weather is poor.

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  • Message 10

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    Posted by bingomaster (U3912534) on Thursday, 5th March 2009

    Signal strength is a factor of course, but these days with such technological advancement this could be improved...we are receiving perfect signals from Mars probes for instance!!!

    Weather sometimes has a bearing on this, and if you are connected via satellite or old analogue aerial. But it seems to happen to most people. More annoying when the Freeview receiver is built into your 50 inch plasma...no easy way to repair that is there!?

    I had a Goodmans set top box for a while...it froze up so frequently that it is now probably on a Nigerian land fill site smiley - laugh

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    Posted by Alf Hartigan (U2277114) on Thursday, 5th March 2009

    Thu, 05 Mar 2009 11:35 GMT, in reply to bingomaster in message 10

    I have decided to wait until our area 'goes digital' before I do anything more to my 'system', and will then see what's on offer as the digital signal is boosted.

    I have enough channels to watch on 'Freeview', which often seems to repeat everything from the last thirty or forty years.

    One channel I would like is 'Discovery', and sadly the 'History' channel, which I am told is similar, is one of the two I can't get at the moment, because I am so far from the transmitter.

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  • Message 12

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    Posted by anglepoison (U8948068) on Thursday, 5th March 2009

    Especially if you get Freeview through an ordinary aerial you'll find any form of interference much more noticeable than analogue. The picture will freeze, break-up and you'll sometimes get a 'bad signal' or 'channel not available' warning for a variety of reasons. Retuning all the channels occasionally can't do any harm but it really shouldn't be necessary.

    The variable signal strength and quality is usually the culprit. Where I am in NW. London it is usually OK but yesterday for example I lost all C5 frequency stations for several minutes due to 'bad signal' early afternoon yesterday. Analogue C5, although always comparatively poor, seemed unaffected.

    I've noticed my reception is severely interferred with by my Neighbour's mobile when he's using it in the driveway on the side of my house closest to the aerial. Taxi radios etc and, I suspect, wi-fi type equipment have caused reception problems for me too. Bizarrely it also seems affected by weather (strong winds) and I've discovered that in certain conditions a bog standard omni-directional indoor aerial gives a me stronger signal, less prone to interference than my main, properly sited, rooftop aerial.

    I guess we have to live with this sort of thing now but it seems clear that terrestrial Freeview can certainly throw up some new problems. That's without even factoring in receiving equipment issues either.

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  • Message 13

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    Posted by Ally Gory (U867998) on Thursday, 5th March 2009

    I still experience problems with Channel 4 stations when there's heavy rain. Everything else seems to be OK.

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    Posted by TomcatRed (U8418886) on Thursday, 5th March 2009

    Shouldn't this be on the 'Digital' board, not the TV one?

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  • Message 15

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    Posted by MartinR23 (U6863144) on Thursday, 5th March 2009


    I've noticed my reception is severely interferred with by my Neighbour's mobile when he's using it in the driveway on the side of my house closest to the aerial. Taxi radios etc and, I suspect, wi-fi type equipment have caused reception problems for me too. Bizarrely it also seems affected by weather (strong winds) and I've discovered that in certain conditions a bog standard omni-directional indoor aerial gives a me stronger signal, less prone to interference than my main, properly sited, rooftop aerial. 


    All those things point to your aerial not being installed correctly, or being slightly damaged in some way.

    Currently digital signal isn't very strong so any problems are much more noticeable.

    My parents for example had to replace their aerial socket when they went digital because they eventually found out it had become corroded and was not connecting well.

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    Posted by Alf Hartigan (U2277114) on Thursday, 5th March 2009

    Thu, 05 Mar 2009 11:55 GMT, in reply to MartinR23 in message 15

    Modern aerial cables aren't really up to the standard of the new ones designed for digital signals either, that's why I'm waiting until the digital signal is boosted once we lose the analogue one, in 2012 in my area, and then I'll reorganise my whole system.

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  • Message 17

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    Posted by majorchudley (U8658940) on Thursday, 5th March 2009

    This may be slightly off topic but can anyone let me know if there is a significant difference ( apart from HD) between the quality of freesat to freeview.

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  • Message 18

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    Posted by BBC auto-messages (U294) on Thursday, 5th March 2009

    Editorial Note: This conversation has been moved from 'Television' to 'Digital'.

  • Message 19

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    Posted by Martyn the retired (U1168764) on Thursday, 5th March 2009

    Alf

    I beg to differ. CT100 (or similar) which was really meant for satellite installations is double screened and is the best practice for a digital terrestrial installation.

    There is very unlikely to be a competitively priced and better product available at switch-over, although if you want to spend more money, CT125 (or similar) is better but quite unnecessary.

    Indeed post switch-over the need for fancy cables may be less, but as most of the cost is actually doing the cabling, I'd argue for a small amount more, it will still be worth it. The quality of the PVC used for the outer has an effect as ultimately, sunlight will kill even a cable that is not flexed.

    Unless of course you mean modern(ish) cables or ones that are not to this standard.

    But if you have a system that works now, then yes, aerial system work post switch-over makes sense as with more power and a some channel changes, it may no longer be ideal.

    regards, Martyn

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  • Message 20

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    Posted by anglepoison (U8948068) on Thursday, 5th March 2009

    There's nothing wrong with the signal strength and the picture quality I get from my aerial under normal circumstances. It also has the appropriate grade of external quality shielded co-axial cable fitted too. If the problems were only occuring in windy or wet weather I might have thought something similar ie. that it was caused by corrosion or a loose connection. But wet weather doesn't affect my reception and my Neighbour's mobile does when he drives down out shared driveway. I believe he's an engineer for a mobile phone company so heaven knows what equipment he has running in his van. Whatever it is, when he drives past the corner of the house closest to my TV aerial my Freeview picture scrambles.

    I was really just pointing out the digital signal seems as prone to interference as analogue but the results are often more noticeable because rather than a few interference patterns you get with analogue the whole picture can scramble or drop out.

    Perhaps a purpose designed aerial for digital reception might be less prone to such external problems. But I don't have the inclination or money to find out. However I do know from the more specialist forums I've visited that I'm far from alone in having these occasional interference problems.

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  • Message 21

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    Posted by The Neanderthal (U2299133) on Thursday, 5th March 2009

    In the main, Satellite reception is more reliable.

    Unfortunately Freeview on the UHF band is subject to co-channel interference during certain weather conditions. The problem gets worse as more and more channels are crammed into an overfull band.
    It should get better after switch off, but co-channel interference will always be with us during periods of high pressure.

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  • Message 22

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    Posted by MM (U1821038) on Thursday, 5th March 2009

    I got aproblem ! I have a BUSH flat scrreen TV but the remote has gone tothe happy humnting grounds. So I bought a gizmo that can do the biz an 'all in one' remote, now I come to the problem it won't work (6 others didn't either !).

    Being deaf I originally set the TV for permanent subtitles, as a result of that I cannot re-program ANY remote to work on it, because I have to turn the titles OFF first, which I cannot ! The buttons on the side of the TV number about 6,the remote options are about 40, and so I cannot switch off titles manually, I can't even reset the whole thing... the remote did all that.

    I have so far been unable to purchase a BUSH remote to match, any ideas ?

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  • Message 23

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    Posted by Smilie Minogue (U8747614) on Thursday, 5th March 2009

    It should get better after switch off 

    It does - it's so much better now! smiley - smiley

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  • Message 24

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    Posted by Pumblechook (U6852342) on Thursday, 5th March 2009

    Some people might actually be suffering from too much signal. The powerful analogues, typically 100 times stronger (in power terms - or 20 dB)than the digitals, can overload a set-top box. You would need an attenuator from Maplin or your local TV dealer (if they haven't gone out of business).

    Analogue switch-off will clear the problem.

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  • Message 25

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    Posted by Pumblechook (U6852342) on Thursday, 5th March 2009

    Some high pressure would be welcome. ...better weather.

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  • Message 26

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    Posted by Billybingle (U6845637) on Friday, 6th March 2009

    I have so far been unable to purchase a BUSH remote to match, any ideas ? 

    Try this website:-

    www.remotesreplaced....

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  • Message 27

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    Posted by MM (U1821038) on Friday, 6th March 2009

    This was the first site I tried, they didn't list my TV and never replied, but thanks anyway.

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  • Message 28

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    Posted by PhilW (U1357752) on Friday, 6th March 2009

    how about this site

    www.remotes4u.co.uk/...


    its list of bush model numbers is pretty exhaustive...


    if not post the model number and well all have a look for you..

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  • Message 29

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    Posted by technologist (U1259929) on Friday, 6th March 2009

    Or try Bush themsleves

    Most STB manaufactuers are here
    www.bbc.co.uk/recept...


    for Bush this takes you to www.albaplc.com/html...

    and the click on the Product support button - there is a pop up and you can email the Spares department...



    I hope this helps - and that you have your programmes back and enjoy the subtitles.

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  • Message 30

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    Posted by ridingAlanHudson (U13862554) on Saturday, 7th March 2009

    Yes we've just started having this problem in the last few months. We've also lost BBC4 for some reason - we get good reception for lots of channels including BBC3 !

    I don't understand what is going on. I think those running the system ate slowly changing it without telling us and apparently for the worse.

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  • Message 31

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    Posted by McNigel (U3215979) on Saturday, 7th March 2009

    There is a known issue with Bush Freesat (and possibly Freeview and other) boxes, after the latest firmware update.

    The picture freezes and jumps. This is unlike the breaking into little squares you get when the signal is poor.

    Hopefully there will be a fix soon.

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  • Message 32

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    Posted by MM (U1821038) on Sunday, 8th March 2009

    Thanks for this link they appear to have what I want,it'll cost £35 but.... it aint I am too lazy to use the set buttons, but the fact I cannot access the other features via them,you'd think a manual alternative was there and a remote an additional bonus smiley - smiley

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  • Message 33

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    Posted by PhilW (U1357752) on Sunday, 8th March 2009

    35 seems excessive...never paid more than 15



    have a quick look on ebay.....you dont have to be a member to browse


    type in exactly what you want and see what results you get

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  • Message 34

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    Posted by Alsdouble (U524298) on Sunday, 8th March 2009

    Here's a weird one.

    Dave, is scrambled. Like a migraine. Dave+ is okay.

    Weird. Odd, wonder why?

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  • Message 35

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    Posted by technologist (U1259929) on Sunday, 8th March 2009

    Dave is on Mux C and Dave +1 (a vu) is on Mux D therefore different UHF channels etc.
    liek BBC 4 is on Mux B (except Selkirk) whilst BBC 3 is on Mux 1 ...

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  • Message 36

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    Posted by Alsdouble (U524298) on Monday, 9th March 2009

    Interesting. Ta.

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  • Message 37

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    Posted by penfeather (U7505951) on Monday, 9th March 2009

    Here's weird. I've just been watching Legends - The Andrews Sisters on BBC4 (which we only get in the winter/early spring btw) and it was a perfect picture throughout. The Book Quiz, which immediately followed, is breaking up, spitching and spatching. The weather didn't change, the wind isn't suddenly blowing and the leaves didn't grow - nothing changed except the programme. Why? It's all very odd.

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  • Message 38

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    Posted by anglepoison (U8948068) on Wednesday, 11th March 2009

    It is not just reception that can be variable on Freeview for no apparent reason either. This has probably be covered on other threads here but there are still channels being transmitted without the widescreen 'flag'.

    If you have a WS TV this probably wouldn't have been noticed as most TVs will be set to reformat automatically or can be manually corrected. But if you watch on a standard 4:3 TV with a Freeview STB any programme transmitted without the 'flag' will display in a stretched anamorphic image whatever display format options your STB has.

    T4Music only a month ago spent over 4 days displaying like this until somebody at C4 must have heard the complaints. But, as said, there are some Freeview channels (Smile TV1 is one I found) rendered (even more) unwatchable because of this still. Don't these stations monitor their output?

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  • Message 39

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    Posted by BHP (U4732638) on Tuesday, 24th March 2009

    I was really just pointing out the digital signal seems as prone to interference as analogue but the results are often more noticeable because rather than a few interference patterns you get with analogue the whole picture can scramble or drop out. 
    I agree. It never ceases to amaze me how often digi freezes so you miss a key point.
    We use subtitling a lot since Mum is a bit deaf and that sometimes fills in the gaps.smiley - smiley

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  • Message 40

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    Posted by masaka8 (U8546717) on Monday, 30th March 2009

    BBC 4 reception is getting worse & worse in my area (Greater Manchester), well on our TV any way, but other people have mentioned it too. I had to give up watching any of the programmes on Friday & they were the best for some days. None of the other channels are so badly affected Will this change when analogue is switched off? So much for progress otherwise.

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