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  • Message 101

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    Posted by Walsall_Chris (U2515779) on Sunday, 16th March 2008

    no harry today...instead presented by a woman with surely the deepest voice in broadcasting today.

    frank bruno sounds like joe pasquale in comparison to her.

    very uunnerving watching and listening to her. 


    Was that the same lady who has done feature reports for the show this season?

    If we're thinking of the same lady, then I think she made a report on Castleford Tigers' Jungle ground on the first Super League Show that aired nationally.

    Without meaning to sound horrible, when the package in question began I genuinely thought it was a man speaking before the camera panned round to take in a shot of her! smiley - yikes smiley - blush

    On the subject of the BBC sticking their regional sports programmes nationally as an overnight repeat, I see they are doing the same thing with Scrum V and the BBC 2 Wales live games, starting with Friday's Cardiff Blues vs Llanelli Scarlets game that will be repeated this Saturday morning at 4.00am.

    Although obviously the timeslots aren't great, at best made for video, it doesn't do any harm to give this kind of show a national airing of some form. I'm sure many viewers will appriciate having the opportunity to watch their sport of choice wherever they live in the UK.

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  • Message 102

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    Posted by PhilW (U1357752) on Monday, 17th March 2008

    yes..the very same lady.

    apparently harry was in sheffield for sports relief.

    someone mentioned scrum v the other day and its good that the beeb are showing common sense and showing regional progs nationally.

    even if only at times where vcrs have to be used.

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  • Message 103

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    Posted by Walsall_Chris (U2515779) on Monday, 17th March 2008

    Just checked the Iplayer, Tanya Arnold is her name.

    She doesn't look as gruff as she sounds thankfully, but boy what a voice! smiley - yikes

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  • Message 104

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    Posted by Stewart Henry (U1375435) on Monday, 17th March 2008

    Good evening Phil, good evening Chris.

    Stewart, from what I remember of his talkSPORT interview, Drew mentioned that his loan at Wrexham was up just in time for him to take part in the Football League Trophy Final for MK Dons against Grimbsy Town.

    That match is not that far away now so we shall see. 


    I remember the Football League Trophy Final(Johnstone's Paint and formerly Auto Windscreens Shield) once being an important annual event on Five Live. For several years, the final took place on the Sunday of international football weekends, and as there were no other Sunday fixtures, Five Live used to broadcast the entire final live. I remember a particularly enjoyable final between Birmingham City and Carlisle United a few years back.

    If we're talking about potential Rugby League commentators Five Live could call upon during the World Cup then I have another name for you.

    Apologies for seeming to suggest him for every role going these days - but how about Martyn Hindley?

    As well as football and cricket, he's turned his hand to rugby league this season - he's already reported on the World Club Challenge match between Leeds and Melbourne for talkSPORT and I read that he commentated on the Castleford vs Leeds games for BBC Radio Leeds the other week.

    Martyn will be joining up with the Test Match Special team this summer, so why not add him to another area of BBC national radio sport as well in Five Live's Rugby League coverage? I don't believe the World Cup clashes with his Champions League commitments so I don't think it would be a problem for him. 


    I can't see this happening Chris, unless one of Five Live's present team of three rugby league commentators were to move into another sporting role at Five Live or to another broadcaster. Also, aside from the period during Euro 2008 when there may be rugby league commentary vacancies at Five Live, I can't see Martin Hindley, with his commentary experience, being content in the more regular role as a match reporter.


    Phil, that is good news about the Super League show, and it makes sense to have two shows next week. I notice though that yesterday's show was reduced to just half an hour, was the show's air time cut in order to accommodate an additional show next week. Also, why was it on at such a late hour, the rugby union highlights were on at midnight, and then after a film and an hour of BBC News 24, the half hour Super League show didn't begin until 4.10am. At least it still made it in the schedule before Gabby's show.

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  • Message 105

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    Posted by Walsall_Chris (U2515779) on Tuesday, 18th March 2008

    Good evening Stewart.

    I remember the Football League Trophy Final(Johnstone's Paint and formerly Auto Windscreens Shield) once being an important annual event on Five Live. For several years, the final took place on the Sunday of international football weekends, and as there were no other Sunday fixtures, Five Live used to broadcast the entire final live. I remember a particularly enjoyable final between Birmingham City and Carlisle United a few years back. 

    Would that have been the Paul Tait Final?

    I can't see this happening Chris, unless one of Five Live's present team of three rugby league commentators were to move into another sporting role at Five Live or to another broadcaster. Also, aside from the period during Euro 2008 when there may be rugby league commentary vacancies at Five Live, I can't see Martin Hindley, with his commentary experience, being content in the more regular role as a match reporter. 

    As someone who has often advocated sports broadcasters staying in reporting and even newsreading roles rather than moving to do a larger porfolio of live action, I'm a little surprised by that comment Stewart.

    Are you saying that reporting on live events is that less significant than commentary roles that broadcasters like Martyn Hindley wouldn't consider them?

    This wouldn't seem to be the case with Hindley anyway. On top of his commentating on Lancashire CCC matches for BBC Radio Lancs and presenting/commentary work on Champions League games for UEFA.com, Martyn Hindley seems happy to combine football reporting roles on talkSPORT with commentary roles on a number of UTV Radio's local stations. He even popped up on Hawksbee & Jacobs today (back to the orignal topic! Yay!) to talk about Cricket and Darrel Hair's reinstatement.

    On Friday nights, when most broadcast rugby league games take place, he has been happy enough to report on talkSPORT on a rare RL match they covered - so why not do this on Five Live on a more regular basis?

    Although really I suggested Martyn specifically for the Rugby League World Cup - as with four UK nations taking part, if Five Live/Sports Extra are to do proper coverage then you would think they'd have to use more than the 3 regular commentators they use at present.

    Remember, most of Five Live's RL commentary roster are freelance (Dave Woods, Stuart Pyke, George Riley etc) so using Martyn here wouldn't neccesarily put a cap on the rest of his broadcasting work.

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  • Message 106

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    Posted by David Shield - Listener Number: (U1249220) on Tuesday, 18th March 2008

    Evening all

    no harry today...instead presented by a woman with surely the deepest voice in broadcasting today. 

    Yeah that Tanya has taken over as the regular reporter.

    I always liked Anna Burns, pity we never got to see her.

    Was that the same lady who has done feature reports for the show this season? 

    Yeah it will be.

    Without meaning to sound horrible, when the package in question began I genuinely thought it was a man speaking before the camera panned round to take in a shot of her! 

    LOL!

    On the subject of the BBC sticking their regional sports programmes nationally as an overnight repeat, I see they are doing the same thing with Scrum V and the BBC 2 Wales live games, starting with Friday's Cardiff Blues vs Llanelli Scarlets game that will be repeated this Saturday morning at 4.00am.

    Although obviously the timeslots aren't great, at best made for video, it doesn't do any harm to give this kind of show a national airing of some form. I'm sure many viewers will appriciate having the opportunity to watch their sport of choice wherever they live in the UK. 


    Yeah good move this, I mentioned it on the Six Nations discussion but you must have missed it.

    Phil, that is good news about the Super League show, and it makes sense to have two shows next week. I notice though that yesterday's show was reduced to just half an hour, was the show's air time cut in order to accommodate an additional show next week. 

    It sometimes have to be shorter if they cannot find a long enough slot in the schedules.

    Also, why was it on at such a late hour, the rugby union highlights were on at midnight, and then after a film and an hour of BBC News 24, the half hour Super League show didn't begin until 4.10am. At least it still made it in the schedule before Gabby's show. 

    Didn’t understand that at all Stewart.

    If we're talking about potential Rugby League commentators Five Live could call upon during the World Cup then I have another name for you.

    Apologies for seeming to suggest him for every role going these days - but how about Martyn Hindley?

    As well as football and cricket, he's turned his hand to rugby league this season - he's already reported on the World Club Challenge match between Leeds and Melbourne for talkSPORT and I read that he commentated on the Castleford vs Leeds games for BBC Radio Leeds the other week.

    Martyn will be joining up with the Test Match Special team this summer, so why not add him to another area of BBC national radio sport as well in Five Live's Rugby League coverage? I don't believe the World Cup clashes with his Champions League commitments so I don't think it would be a problem for him. 


    It depends how many commentators and reporters they send. Wales haven’t qualified so they have just three home nations to cover.

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  • Message 107

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    Posted by Walsall_Chris (U2515779) on Wednesday, 19th March 2008

    Thanks for the details David, you appear to have beaten me to it (I think we posted at the same time last night!)

    It depends how many commentators and reporters they send. Wales haven’t qualified so they have just three home nations to cover. 

    Thanks for that David, I must admit I didn't know that Wales hadn't qualified for the World Cup.

    I have to say this is quite a surprise - as I was expecting Wales to have a more competitive side to Scotland or any Irish nation, judging by the relative success of Bridgend-based side Celtic Crusaders in the English system.

    One for the RL devotees on here - does anyone know how the Celtic Crusaders are doing, and if they are likely to be voted into the Super League ala the Catalan Dragons any time soon?

    The Crusaders were set up from the Ashes of Bridgend-Pontypridd regional rugby union side the Celtic Warriors after the WRU pulled the plug on them in the Celtic League after it's initial season, and the reports I have read in the Welsh press suggest they have been doing rather well over the past few years.

    Any chance of them making the Super League in the near future?

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  • Message 108

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    Posted by PhilW (U1357752) on Thursday, 20th March 2008

    hope i can answer a few questions.

    for this years world cup the main countries went thru automatically.

    all the other countries played in qualifying groups around the world.

    scotland and wales had a play off to decide the european group winners.

    scotland won 21-14 in wales and wales won 18-14 in scotland.

    so scotland went through to the world cup on aggregate.

    ireland went thru by winning the other european group



    the national league hasnt started yet.

    celtics first game is this weekend but they are still in the national rail cup for all teams below super league.


    they are still in the challenge cup and play leeds at headingly next month in the 4th round.

    expect a hundred point whitewash


    there is no relegation and promotion from and to superleague now.

    entry is by invitation only and franchises have to put in their applications next month.

    its likely that the 12 teams currently there will stay there and 2 new franchises allowed in.

    factors will include quality of stadium and attendances.

    for what its worth i believe both salford and widnes will get them.

    widnes already have a decent stadium and salford are building one.


    on the other hand there is talk that the rugby league want to expand further afield.

    if this is the case then a second french team and celtic will be allowed entry.

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  • Message 109

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    Posted by David Shield (U11308993) on Tuesday, 25th March 2008

    Thanks for that David, I must admit I didn't know that Wales hadn't qualified for the World Cup.

    I have to say this is quite a surprise - as I was expecting Wales to have a more competitive side to Scotland or any Irish nation, judging by the relative success of Bridgend-based side Celtic Crusaders in the English system. 


    Yes I was surprised at the time. I don't know how many matches Wales have played since but they did very well in the last world cup so I was expecting more from them although granted it was a long time ago.

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  • Message 110

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    Posted by Stewart Henry (U1375435) on Thursday, 27th March 2008

    Good evening Chris, good evening everyone.

    Would that have been the Paul Tait Final? 

    That's the one, Chris. Looks like both Leeds and Walsall will be competing in the Johnstone's Paint Trophy again next season.

    As someone who has often advocated sports broadcasters staying in reporting and even newsreading roles rather than moving to do a larger porfolio of live action, I'm a little surprised by that comment Stewart.

    Are you saying that reporting on live events is that less significant than commentary roles that broadcasters like Martyn Hindley wouldn't consider them?

     


    Not at Chris.

    But as an example, looking at the trend at Five Live, many of their sports staff have started as sports news readers, before becoming match reporters, and then commentators. Obvioulsy this isn't the case for all commentators, but at Five Live it certainly applies to Johm Murray, David Oates, Conor McNamara (Today FM first), Ian Dennis, Nigel Adderley, Ali Bruce-ball, Mike Sewell, Iain Carter, David Croft, Jonathan Overend, Nick Mullins, Jacqui Oatley. Vassos Alexander could also be added for his brief commentary duties a few years back.

    The trend suggests that few sports personnel go from being commentators to reporters, though there are exceptions, such as Simon Mann and Jonathan Legard.

    Of course freelance work is different, so there is nothing to suggest that Martyn Hindley couldn't work as a freelance rugby league match reporte on Five Live, and still have commentary duties on other networks.

    Personally, if I was a sports broadcaster, I would regard live commentary or the anchoring of live events as superior to match reporting, due to the additional skills held and the perecived status of the role, but for selfish reasons, there are some excellent Five Live staff who have moved on to greater things, and I miss there day-to-day presence on Five Live, for exampple, Susan Bookbinder, Nick Robinson, Nick Mullins, and Ian Payne, but most of them have bettered their career.

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  • Message 111

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    Posted by David Shield (U11308993) on Monday, 31st March 2008

    Hi Stewart

    The trend suggests that few sports personnel go from being commentators to reporters, though there are exceptions, such as Simon Mann and Jonathan Legard. 

    I wouldn't include Simon Mann in that list necessarily Stewart. Granted his football commentary work has truncated somewhat but he is still a key cricket commentator on TMS.

    Personally, if I was a sports broadcaster, I would regard live commentary or the anchoring of live events as superior to match reporting, due to the additional skills held and the perecived status of the role, but for selfish reasons, there are some excellent Five Live staff who have moved on to greater things, and I miss there day-to-day presence on Five Live, for exampple, Susan Bookbinder, Nick Robinson, Nick Mullins, and Ian Payne, but most of them have bettered their career. 

    I would agree with you Stewart however a reporting role could sometimes be 'better' than a commentary role. Say for example reporting on the world cup final rather than commentating on the 3rd/4th play-off. That's not really a good example but I hope you get my point.

    From the list of 4 surely only 2 of them have bettered themselves - the Nick's - Robinson and Mullins. Whereas I have no idea what Bookie is up to these days and Payney just hosts sports news and no actual live sporting events.

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  • Message 112

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    Posted by Stewart Henry (U1375435) on Monday, 31st March 2008

    Hey David.

    I wouldn't include Simon Mann in that list necessarily Stewart. Granted his football commentary work has truncated somewhat but he is still a key cricket commentator on TMS. 

    That's a fair point, David, but if you look at Simon's current role on Five Live, it mainly comprises of match reporting on football, and not very many cricket commentaries, whilst a few years ago, he had a regular role of cricket reporting and commentating.

    Regarding Jonathan Legard, it was interesting to read that either he and David Croft are the front runners to be BBC TV's Formual One commentator next season. I can't see Jonny returning to F1, can you?

    I would agree with you Stewart however a reporting role could sometimes be 'better' than a commentary role. Say for example reporting on the world cup final rather than commentating on the 3rd/4th play-off. That's not really a good example but I hope you get my point. 

    Yeah, I see what you mean David, but when comparing the roles on a single match at whatever level, surely you would regard commentating as superior in status to reporting.

    Just to complicate things though, how about the Super League situation on Friday evenings, (I know it hasn't been quite like this this season), when Dave Woods is a match reporter for Five Live, whilst David Oates and Stuart Pyke commentate on the same game for Sports Extra. I would still put the commentary role first, but I am not sure that Alan Green would.

    Whereas I have no idea what Bookie is up to these days and Payney just hosts sports news and no actual live sporting events. 

    That point opens another dilemma with regards to superiority, sports desk on TV, or chief presenter on radio? Interesting that Mark Saggers went the other way.





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  • Message 113

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    Posted by David Shield (U11308993) on Tuesday, 1st April 2008

    Evening Stewart

    That's a fair point, David, but if you look at Simon's current role on Five Live, it mainly comprises of match reporting on football, and not very many cricket commentaries, whilst a few years ago, he had a regular role of cricket reporting and commentating. 

    I don't think Si does much less commentary work in terms of cricket than he used to. It might change this season perhaps with a new producer, I hope not. But I would say at the moment he does the same cricket role but now his odd football commentary stints have all dried up and he is just used as a football reporter, which is a shame. I think this might be down to the fact he is now I believe freelance.

    Regarding Jonathan Legard, it was interesting to read that either he and David Croft are the front runners to be BBC TV's Formual One commentator next season. I can't see Jonny returning to F1, can you? 

    You have to remember at this stage it is all early press speculation. But I agree I can't see Jonthan returning to F1 and certainly not on the television coverage. Crofty has a very good chance though, he is already a regular television commentator on the darts coverage, he could be a good shout.

    I'm going to slighty contradict myself here. I think Charlie Cox would be an excellent choice myself, he is a great motorsport commentator and is brilliant with Steve Parrish on the MotoGP coverage. But I hope with the BBC returing to cover F1 on the television that the MotoGP coverage won't be truncated in any way.

    Yeah, I see what you mean David, but when comparing the roles on a single match at whatever level, surely you would regard commentating as superior in status to reporting. 

    Aye I would.

    Just to complicate things though, how about the Super League situation on Friday evenings, (I know it hasn't been quite like this this season), when Dave Woods is a match reporter for Five Live, whilst David Oates and Stuart Pyke commentate on the same game for Sports Extra. I would still put the commentary role first, but I am not sure that Alan Green would. 

    Well this is a point I think we have discussed before or I certainly have with someone. Five Live clearly view the reporters role on Five Live as more important as its to a larger audience than the digital only commentary on Sportsextra. This is clear from the use of Dave Woods and Ian Robertson reporting for Five Live on gmaes rather than commentating on Sportsextra.

    I know the Al Green haters use it as a stick to beat him with but I'm pretty sure it the Five Live bosses that don't want their top man on a digital station, it does make sence.

    And a point to the Greeny haters, when was the last time (barring the other week when they swapped Man U-Bolton and Chlesea-Spurs around did for example Ian Brown commentate on Sportsextra? Quite obviosuly Five Live used their top people on Five Live rather than Sportsextra.

    That point opens another dilemma with regards to superiority, sports desk on TV, or chief presenter on radio? Interesting that Mark Saggers went the other way. 

    Lets see, presenting England Internationals, Champions League matchnights, Football World Cups, and commentating on test matches, I think Sags made the right choice.

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  • Message 114

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    Posted by David Shield (U11308993) on Monday, 7th April 2008

    And a point to the Greeny haters, when was the last time (barring the other week when they swapped Man U-Bolton and Chlesea-Spurs around did for example Ian Brown commentate on Sportsextra? Quite obviosuly Five Live used their top people on Five Live rather than Sportsextra. 

    Nice timing that post! If you didn't hear any of it on Saturday for Arsenal-Liverpool on Sportsextra (while Pomey-West Brom FA Cup semi was on Five Live) the commentary was by Ian Brown!

    And the good thing was Bob Wilson was the summeriser. I didn't hear much of the broadcast myself but it was good to know Bob was on summerising duty again. I wish they would use him more in the role than they currently do, he is an brilliant summeriser.

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  • Message 115

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    Posted by PhilW (U1357752) on Monday, 7th April 2008

    yes and the last half hour switched to r5 after the semi.


    by the way..its the first time since they were live that i havent seen any semi final.

    watched arsenal on saturday and everton yesterday.

    didnt even tape them.

    probably be the same for the final.


    its all very well having a laugh at the big boys getting knocked out early but you realise now how they are missed.

    you want one in the final so you can cheer the underdogs against them.

    but not bothered now.

    be good fot jones to win it after what hes been thru but it would also be great for harry.

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  • Message 116

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    Posted by Walsall_Chris (U2515779) on Sunday, 20th April 2008

    Good afternoon Phil, Stewart and David.

    the national league hasnt started yet.

    celtics first game is this weekend but they are still in the national rail cup for all teams below super league.


    they are still in the challenge cup and play leeds at headingly next month in the 4th round.

    expect a hundred point whitewash 


    Thanks for the details on Rugby League in Wales Phil, very much appreciated.

    Although Friday's Leeds Rhinos-Celtic Crusaders Challenge Cup tie finished a relatively slender 38-16 to the Super League side, so perhaps the Bridgenders aren't as far behind the big boys as you think.

    there is no relegation and promotion from and to superleague now.

    entry is by invitation only and franchises have to put in their applications next month.

    its likely that the 12 teams currently there will stay there and 2 new franchises allowed in.

    factors will include quality of stadium and attendances.

    for what its worth i believe both salford and widnes will get them.

    widnes already have a decent stadium and salford are building one.


    on the other hand there is talk that the rugby league want to expand further afield.

    if this is the case then a second french team and celtic will be allowed entry. 


    On the Super League 'franchise' situation (and for what it's worth, my personal view is removing promotion/relegation is a bad thing - given how teams don't just bounce back and forth from National League One as they do in the RU Premiership), according to Scrum V (that unbiased source smiley - winkeye) last week, they believe the Crusaders have a great chance as being selected as one of the 14.

    They have two rugby league legends in Jonathan Davies and Shaun Edwards backing their cause, so they are in good voice.


    That's a fair point, David, but if you look at Simon's current role on Five Live, it mainly comprises of match reporting on football, and not very many cricket commentaries, whilst a few years ago, he had a regular role of cricket reporting and commentating. 

    I don't think Si does much less commentary work in terms of cricket than he used to. It might change this season perhaps with a new producer, I hope not. But I would say at the moment he does the same cricket role but now his odd football commentary stints have all dried up and he is just used as a football reporter, which is a shame. I think this might be down to the fact he is now I believe freelance. 


    Just to share a bit of information I have about Simon Mann that could explain the perceived "truncation" of his work covering football on Five Live.

    It has come to my attention on another message board that Simon Mann is one of the regular commentators used on Premier League Radio's broadcasts on live Premier League games to various international radio stations.

    What Premier League Radio is is basically a radio equivalent to TransWorld International's TV coverage of top flight English football games to English language global broadcasters (which is now dubbed Premier Productions, by the way).

    It provides commentaries for radio stations who broadcast the Premier League worldwide. For example in the UK you have Newstalk 106FM in Northern Ireland, but further afield you have the likes of the Sirius Satellite Radio subscription broadcasters in North America and SEN Radio in Australia.

    Sometimes these broadcasters will just take Five Live's commentaries if they are covering the matches they want to broadcast, however if Five Live are covering different games or sporting events to the ones they want, then these commentaries come into play.

    The commentators I've heard that Premier League Radio use are Simon Mann, Tim White (talkSPORT & UEFA.com) and Gary Taphouse (Chelsea TV, Smooth Radio and Sky Sports Football First - although due to the nature of his commitments, I don't imagine he appears too often). I believe Geoff Peters (talkSPORT & UEFA.com) and Richard Kaufman (TWI & Sky Sports) have also been used on these commentaries.

    Co-commentators used include Garry O'Reilly, Stewart Robson, Tony Cascarino and Warren Barton.

    I must say I've noticed that Simon Mann has appeared a lot less frequently on Five Live at weekends this season, as has Tim White on talkSPORT.

    So there involvement on these commentaries would seem to explain why this has been the case.

    Regarding Jonathan Legard, it was interesting to read that either he and David Croft are the front runners to be BBC TV's Formual One commentator next season. I can't see Jonny returning to F1, can you? 

    You have to remember at this stage it is all early press speculation. But I agree I can't see Jonthan returning to F1 and certainly not on the television coverage. Crofty has a very good chance though, he is already a regular television commentator on the darts coverage, he could be a good shout.

    I'm going to slighty contradict myself here. I think Charlie Cox would be an excellent choice myself, he is a great motorsport commentator and is brilliant with Steve Parrish on the MotoGP coverage. But I hope with the BBC returing to cover F1 on the television that the MotoGP coverage won't be truncated in any way. 


    My view on the Formula 1 commentary situation is that first and foremostly, I do feel quite sorry for ITV's existing commentator James Allen.

    Not an F1 fan at all, but from what I've heard of him I've always thought he was a decent commentator - although one who seems to be something of a 'marmite' commentator amongst motorsport fans.

    James will probably be one of the big losers from the BBC's new deal as of next season, but I'd like it if he followed his commentary partner Martin Brundle over to the Beeb (as looks likely to be the case with Brundle) in 2009.

    If not him, I've heard a commentator called Ben Edwards (who apparently covers Touring Cars for ITV4) touted in a number of quarters by enthusiasts for the BBC F1 job - however I must admit I'm not familiar with him.

    As good as he is on the darts, I'm not a fan of David Croft as an F1 commentator on Five Live at all. As Phil has often said on here, he sounds like the kind of more general sports broadcaster who has been shunted onto F1 by station editors who like him but can't find another suitable regular role for him. I wouldn't miss him from the Five Live coverage, that's for sure.

    My personal choice (if not Allen) would be Mike Sewell. I rate Mike highly as a commentator, and no one would deny that he isn't a keen motorsport enthusiast - he even found ways of covering the sport during his days at BBC Radio Northamptonshire!

    However I think it's more likely that David Croft will be the BBC TV F1 commentary job, with Sewell succeeding him on Five Live.

    That point opens another dilemma with regards to superiority, sports desk on TV, or chief presenter on radio? Interesting that Mark Saggers went the other way. 

    Lets see, presenting England Internationals, Champions League matchnights, Football World Cups, and commentating on test matches, I think Sags made the right choice. 


    I agree, but by the same token - even as a "BBC man" - would you say that Rebecca Lowe made the right choice when leaving the BBC News 24 sportsdesk for a regular presenting role on Setanta Sports?

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  • Message 117

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    Posted by PhilW (U1357752) on Monday, 28th April 2008

    heads up that the superleague show is early on tuesday morning next week to enable them to show all of millenium magic.


    obviously noone in authority watches the show as the inadvertant swearing was still in the repeat later on.

    good on the bbc for showing it.


    i think the crusaders effort against leeds, although it was a reserve leeds side, can only be good for their cause and also catalans second place can only be good for tolouse as well.

    we'll find out in july.


    by the way leigh have just opened a brand new stadium which is pretty decent so that could only help them as well

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  • Message 118

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    Posted by David Shield (U11308993) on Tuesday, 6th May 2008

    Evening all

    Just to share a bit of information I have about Simon Mann that could explain the perceived "truncation" of his work covering football on Five Live.

    It has come to my attention on another message board that Simon Mann is one of the regular commentators used on Premier League Radio's broadcasts on live Premier League games to various international radio stations.

    What Premier League Radio is is basically a radio equivalent to TransWorld International's TV coverage of top flight English football games to English language global broadcasters (which is now dubbed Premier Productions, by the way).

    It provides commentaries for radio stations who broadcast the Premier League worldwide. For example in the UK you have Newstalk 106FM in Northern Ireland, but further afield you have the likes of the Sirius Satellite Radio subscription broadcasters in North America and SEN Radio in Australia.

    Sometimes these broadcasters will just take Five Live's commentaries if they are covering the matches they want to broadcast, however if Five Live are covering different games or sporting events to the ones they want, then these commentaries come into play.

    The commentators I've heard that Premier League Radio use are Simon Mann, Tim White (talkSPORT & UEFA.com) and Gary Taphouse (Chelsea TV, Smooth Radio and Sky Sports Football First - although due to the nature of his commitments, I don't imagine he appears too often). I believe Geoff Peters (talkSPORT & UEFA.com) and Richard Kaufman (TWI & Sky Sports) have also been used on these commentaries.

    Co-commentators used include Garry O'Reilly, Stewart Robson, Tony Cascarino and Warren Barton.

    I must say I've noticed that Simon Mann has appeared a lot less frequently on Five Live at weekends this season, as has Tim White on talkSPORT.

    So there involvement on these commentaries would seem to explain why this has been the case. 


    Thanks for that very interesting information Chris.

    To be honest I hadn't noticed Si being on any less this season but that's because with my rugby I rarely hear who is on reporting on the Saturday 3pm matches.

    My view on the Formula 1 commentary situation is that first and foremostly, I do feel quite sorry for ITV's existing commentator James Allen. 

    I feel sorry for all of ITV's F1 team, they apparently have contracts that run for a few years yet (the length of ITV's original contract) and will now apart from Steve Rider have to be dumped. I suppose like you say Martin Brundle will have no problem finding alternative employment whereas James can't be so sure.

    However I think it's more likely that David Croft will be the BBC TV F1 commentary job, with Sewell succeeding him on Five Live. 

    If there is a Five Live vacancy then I think we are all agreed that Mike Sewell would be a perfect choice.

    I agree, but by the same token - even as a "BBC man" - would you say that Rebecca Lowe made the right choice when leaving the BBC News 24 sportsdesk for a regular presenting role on Setanta Sports? 

    Yes of course Rebecca did. I really miss her on Football Focus and the women's football coverage on BBC but the move to Setanta Sports was a fantastic oppertunity for her and she is doing really well their.

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    Posted by Stewart Henry (U1375435) on Thursday, 2nd April 2009

    Blimey!

    I had forgotten about Rebecca- one of BBC Sports Department's finest female presenters. I haven't seen anything of her since she left the BBC. I think her father (Chris) has also left News 24. It would be great to hear him back on Radio Four again on one of the news programmes, but I suspect he has been "retired" by the BBC.

    Just thinking about the original topic of this thread, with the closure of this message board, where are we going to discuss TalkSPORT's output now? I don't listen an awful lot to the station, but George Galloway's programme, is one of my favourite programmes across all radio networks, simply for its intelligent debates, seems to attract much more informed callers than the phone-ins on Five Live.

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  • Message 120

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    Posted by PhilW (U1357752) on Friday, 3rd April 2009

    why not try going to the talksport messageboard

    forum.talkforum.org/...

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