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  • Message 1. 

    Posted by Edward Hyde (U16088663) on Saturday, 7th June 2014

    There is a test match going on between England & New Zealand in a sport where we have actually done well in the last 50 years & are having a great match.

    YOU keep reporting on soccer, a sport where the England team have done NOTHING for half a century?

    All the staff photos on your facebook page are of people from this "loser sport"

    When are you finally going to admit that soccer is a dead loss for England internationally & giving time to sports where we succeed?

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    Posted by tvaddict (U15822973) on Saturday, 7th June 2014

    Very good point.

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    Posted by mirandashell (U1946590) on Saturday, 7th June 2014

    Errrmmmm.... didn't England lose that game?

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    Posted by me_the_first (U1291324) on Sunday, 8th June 2014

    Yes, though only to the widely regarded best team in the world, playing on home soil, a team that have won every game on that ground for 20+ years, and even then England only lost to a last minute try. Pretty good performance, I'd say. Pity it got no coverage.

    On the other hand, to paraphrase one summary I heard of the football team's performance, 50 years, 1 win in a major tournie, a few semi finals. We're not up to it. And even as an England fan who'll support them all through this coming campaign, I don't expect any change any time soon.

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    Posted by wolfie (U15842015) on Sunday, 8th June 2014

    And how many times have England RU won the world cup in thirty years...

    The same number of times...and there's only three or four decent teams in that sport..


    It was live on r5 as will this Saturdays test...

    Pretty good coverage as well...if you ask me...

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    Posted by Johnap (U1989184) on Sunday, 8th June 2014

    I enjoy both games but football is the more popular sport and BBC cannot compete with other providers who pay a lot of money to secure the rights. I would love to see both sports on the BBC but I don't think it will happen

    We, thankfully, are delighted that the BBC can still provide such ground breaking entertainment that until recently provided an 86 year old with employment.

    Once again, thank you BBC.

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    Posted by wolfie (U15842015) on Sunday, 8th June 2014

    Don't forget also that the BBC have the six nations for three months each year...


    Where they talk of nothing else...

    Has the op forgotten that...or would he rather them show what was after all just a friendly yesterday and forget the six nations...

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    Posted by Garrypenny (U9662607) on Sunday, 8th June 2014

    BBC blow most of the budget on F1 - and it's not even a sport.

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    Posted by wolfie (U15842015) on Sunday, 8th June 2014

    F1...15 million a year...

    Motd...80 million a year...

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  • Message 10

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    Posted by SAB888 (U14777346) on Sunday, 8th June 2014

    BBC blow most of the budget on F1 - and it's not even a sport.  Why do you keep going on about F1 not being a sport, who are you trying to convince, . . . yourself?

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    Posted by Garrypenny (U9662607) on Sunday, 8th June 2014

    F1...15 million a year... 

    I don't know what the cost is - but that's not right.

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    Posted by me_the_first (U1291324) on Sunday, 8th June 2014

    And how many times have England RU won the world cup in thirty years...

    The same number of times...and there's only three or four decent teams in that sport..


    It was live on r5 as will this Saturdays test...

    Pretty good coverage as well...if you ask me... 
    It's only been going since 87, 7 tournaments... 1 win, 1 runner up. Not bad.

    3 or 4 decent teams? Come off it. At least 4 northern hemisphere and 3 southern. I suspect from your comment that you're being dismissive of Wales, Ireland and France. If so, you're wrong.

    To another point raised, these are not friendlies, they are full tests and have equal footing to autumn internationals held here. And six nations, which are, after all, just tests in a regional tournament format. Yes, it was broadcast on 5 live, though this board is for discussing TV and it not being on TV is what we're debating.

    Are any full England football internationals not shown on terrestrial TV? No. They even show friendlies. I know there's not enough money to go round. Drop the footie friendlies, so we can watch full rugby tests.

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    Posted by wolfie (U15842015) on Sunday, 8th June 2014

    You say they blow most of it on f1...then admit you've no idea of the cost...

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    Posted by Garrypenny (U9662607) on Sunday, 8th June 2014

    I appear to have a better idea than you.

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    Posted by bounty-is-back-from-the-dead (U14258254) on Sunday, 8th June 2014

    There is a test match going on between England & New Zealand in a sport where we have actually done well in the last 50 years & are having a great match.

    YOU keep reporting on soccer, a sport where the England team have done NOTHING for half a century?

    All the staff photos on your facebook page are of people from this "loser sport"

    When are you finally going to admit that soccer is a dead loss for England internationally & giving time to sports where we succeed? 
    Why don't you ask the English rugby managerment why they did a deal with Sky Sports for all except the 6 nations to show only on Sky Sports. And as for F1 who are so greedy that they have priced out the BBC who are unable to show the full season like they used to.

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  • Message 17

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    Posted by wolfie (U15842015) on Sunday, 8th June 2014

    Yes...thirty years...as i said...winning it once...we agree...


    Of course I'm dismissive of those countries....remind me...how did France do yesterday...


    No..they're only friendlies...they are used for building up for the world cup...


    Its strange calling them not friendlies when England weren't even able to play all their best players...

    If these tests mattered that wouldn't have been allowed to happen..

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  • Message 18

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    Posted by wolfie (U15842015) on Sunday, 8th June 2014

    The BBC signed a five year contract for 200 million...


    40 million a year...

    Two years later they let sky in on the deal...and this season sky are paying 40 million for all the races...and the BBC are paying 15 million for half the races...


    If you know differently then I'd be p!eased to hear your figures..

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    Posted by me_the_first (U1291324) on Sunday, 8th June 2014

    You seem very flexible in mixing up the terms tests & friendlies... as flexible as your maths! smiley - laugh

    I wouldn't expect a midweek game against a provincial side to be thought of as much more than a friendly, let alone broadcast, but the main games are full internationals. If the rights have long since been signed away though, that's the real answer why they aren't shown.

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    Posted by Erza Scarlett (U16043197) on Sunday, 8th June 2014

    Were the rights signed away, or were they outbid? If the latter, then there is absolutely nothing the BBC can do about it. This sort of thing has happened in sport for decades. If you want them shown on the BBC, then you have to arrange for a change in the law, except I doubt very much it would work for overseas events, except the Olympics and the FIFA World Cup. Even there, it would only be protected for terrestrial television, and not specifically for the BBC.

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  • Message 21

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    Posted by wolfie (U15842015) on Sunday, 8th June 2014

    They may well be classed as full internationals.....england honduras was classed as a full international...doesnt mean anything...

    They're used as warm up games for the world cup...

    Its how they play that's important...that's why they weren't too upset they got beat yesterday..


    Everyone knows that its down to rights...what else could it be down to...

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    Posted by EggNutsRoastingOnAStiltWoodFire (U16073950) on Sunday, 8th June 2014

    According to the website Nadal won the tennis smiley - smiley

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    Posted by Phrasmotic 4 August 2012 (U5509534) on Sunday, 8th June 2014

    And how many times have England RU won the world cup in thirty years...

    The same number of times...and there's only three or four decent teams in that sport..


    It was live on r5 as will this Saturdays test...

    Pretty good coverage as well...if you ask me... 
    It's only been going since 87, 7 tournaments... 1 win, 1 runner up. Not bad.

    3 or 4 decent teams? Come off it. At least 4 northern hemisphere and 3 southern. I suspect from your comment that you're being dismissive of Wales, Ireland and France. If so, you're wrong.

    To another point raised, these are not friendlies, they are full tests and have equal footing to autumn internationals held here. And six nations, which are, after all, just tests in a regional tournament format. Yes, it was broadcast on 5 live, though this board is for discussing TV and it not being on TV is what we're debating.

    Are any full England football internationals not shown on terrestrial TV? No. They even show friendlies. I know there's not enough money to go round. Drop the footie friendlies, so we can watch full rugby tests. 
    Eight different countries have won the World Cup. Four others have reached the final and never won it. Four countries have won the RU equivalent, and one other has reached the final and never won it. Every final has contained at least one Southern Hemisphere country, and the likelihood of the winners ever coming from any of the five countries that have reached the final is pretty remote.

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    Posted by EggNutsRoastingOnAStiltWoodFire (U16073950) on Sunday, 8th June 2014

    You sound like a panellist on Question Time. smiley - biggrin

    smiley - friedegg

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    Posted by me_the_first (U1291324) on Sunday, 8th June 2014

    Didn't say anything about Honduras game, did I? That was ITV anyway. But friendlies are often broadcast by the BBC.

    Who says they weren't upset? Gutted (Robshaw), disappointed, frustrated (Lancaster).

    Yes, the money. I don't profess to know exactly which games are covered by the bbc funding and which aren't. You did though? Surprised you didn't mention it earlier.

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    Posted by wolfie (U15842015) on Sunday, 8th June 2014

    I've not mentioned money but you can be sure that if games are on BBC..then they're funded by the BBC...if not...they're not...


    I mentioned the Honduras game because you seem to think that something classed as a full international is important...


    It doesn't necessarily mean that...

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  • Message 27

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    Posted by Harvey Specter (U4307220) on Monday, 9th June 2014

    F1...15 million a year... 

    I don't know what the cost is - but that's not right. 
    smiley - laugh

    Huh?

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  • Message 28

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    Posted by Pumpkin_Patch_Paul (U14565900) on Monday, 9th June 2014

    Soccer........ smiley - erm

    Nuff said......

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  • Message 29

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    Posted by Phrasmotic 4 August 2012 (U5509534) on Monday, 9th June 2014

    I have to point this out. Before Sky came along, the number of southern hemipshere rugby internationals shown live on the BBC was ... ZERO. At best, you'd see highlights on Grandstand or Sportsnight.

    Sky has also taken England's autumn internationals from the BBC. Auntie has even lost radio coverage of the Rugby World Cup.

    I know that much is made of rugby summer tours, but it seems to me that a lot of the talk is about preparation for World Cups. The All Blacks are famous for being brilliant three years out of four, and failing when it matters (though not last time), while the Australians have a reputation for timing preparation of their players perfectly. For his reason, I well understand why other internationals might be thought of as "friendlies".

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    Posted by wolfie (U15842015) on Monday, 9th June 2014

    yes...I seem to remember that grandstand would show ten minute highlights of the lions games down under...

    and it was the same with the cricket...

    the bbc would never have dreamed of showing the cricket live from Australia...

    remember we all had to listen to it on our trannies under the bed clothes...




    is it pc to say trannies on this board...


    I also think that although sky have got certain England games...theres an awful lot of rugby on bbc...15 six nations games and probably 8 or 9 autumn games....


    in fact although the amount of football on the bbc is criticised....they very rarely show England...and will probably only show two England matches this year....and two in two years time...

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  • Message 31

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    Posted by ladybird (U3524562) on Monday, 9th June 2014


    There is a test match going on between England & New Zealand in a sport where we have actually done well in the last 50 years & are having a great match.
     


    For a while there I thought you were talking about cricket and wondered who Sri Lanka were playing smiley - erm

    The quote above is actually more relevant to cricket than rugby, over the last 50 years England hasn't done too badly at all.

    I would love to see some 20/20 and 50-overs matches on the BBC (I was brought-up on cricket; we used to watch the TV with the sound off and listened to the commentary on the radio).

    smiley - senior

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  • Message 32

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    Posted by mirandashell (U1946590) on Monday, 9th June 2014

    Unfortunately, I can't see BBC TV getting any cricket back. It's too expensive now.

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  • Message 33

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    Posted by Jeff (U13971268) on Monday, 9th June 2014

    I too thought the OP was referring to cricket when he was talking about a Test Match (what else could it be?).

    Then everyone started going on about rugby for some reason...

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    Posted by Johnap (U1989184) on Monday, 9th June 2014

    Unfortunately, I can't see BBC TV getting any cricket back. It's too expensive now.  Sadly, I think you are correct.

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    Posted by GZ (U5310554) on Monday, 9th June 2014

    There is a test match going on between England & New Zealand in a sport where we have actually done well in the last 50 years & are having a great match.

    YOU keep reporting on soccer, a sport where the England team have done NOTHING for half a century?

    All the staff photos on your facebook page are of people from this "loser sport"

    When are you finally going to admit that soccer is a dead loss for England internationally & giving time to sports where we succeed? 
    I wasnt aware that anyone in the UK called it soccer. Interesting.

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    Posted by Johnap (U1989184) on Monday, 9th June 2014

    1-0!

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    Posted by HoraceCoker (U14258478) on Monday, 9th June 2014

    There is a test match going on between England & New Zealand in a sport where we have actually done well in the last 50 years & are having a great match.

    YOU keep reporting on soccer, a sport where the England team have done NOTHING for half a century?

    All the staff photos on your facebook page are of people from this "loser sport"

    When are you finally going to admit that soccer is a dead loss for England internationally & giving time to sports where we succeed? 
    I wasnt aware that anyone in the UK called it soccer. Interesting. 
    ....I think rugby afficionados call it soccer.....as opposed to Rugby football..

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    Posted by Phrasmotic 4 August 2012 (U5509534) on Monday, 9th June 2014

    There is a test match going on between England & New Zealand in a sport where we have actually done well in the last 50 years & are having a great match.

    YOU keep reporting on soccer, a sport where the England team have done NOTHING for half a century?

    All the staff photos on your facebook page are of people from this "loser sport"

    When are you finally going to admit that soccer is a dead loss for England internationally & giving time to sports where we succeed? 
    I wasnt aware that anyone in the UK called it soccer. Interesting. 
    ....I think rugby afficionados call it soccer.....as opposed to Rugby football.. 
    Bit of a contradiction in terms!

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    Posted by Jeff (U13971268) on Monday, 9th June 2014

    Where's the contradiction?

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    Posted by SAB888 (U14777346) on Monday, 9th June 2014

    There is a test match going on between England & New Zealand in a sport where we have actually done well in the last 50 years & are having a great match.

    YOU keep reporting on soccer, a sport where the England team have done NOTHING for half a century?

    All the staff photos on your facebook page are of people from this "loser sport"

    When are you finally going to admit that soccer is a dead loss for England internationally & giving time to sports where we succeed? 
    I wasnt aware that anyone in the UK called it soccer. Interesting. 
    Very rarely do I ever hear the word soccer, it's nearly always football. Interesting that the word soccer originated in the UK.

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  • Message 41

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    Posted by Phrasmotic 4 August 2012 (U5509534) on Monday, 9th June 2014

    Where's the contradiction?  Rugby, played with the hands (usually)
    Football, most players not allowed to handle the ball.

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  • Message 42

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    Posted by billy_bumble (U14467942) on Tuesday, 10th June 2014

    Has it been confirmed that BBC are not showing the 2015 WC?

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    Posted by wolfie (U15842015) on Tuesday, 10th June 2014

    yes...itv signed a deal in 2011 to cover the 2011 and 2015 tournaments...

    they outbid sky and bbc...

    they'll show every match on itv or itv4...

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    Posted by billy_bumble (U14467942) on Tuesday, 10th June 2014

    Thanks Wolfie

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  • Message 45

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    Posted by wolfie (U15842015) on Tuesday, 10th June 2014

    many people call it soccer.....usually those that don't follow the sport...

    dickie davis famously tried to say that 'thered be more cup soccer next week...'...


    but got his words mixed up...

    I couldn't possibly repeat what he said on a family forum as this is...

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    Posted by Phrasmotic 4 August 2012 (U5509534) on Tuesday, 10th June 2014

    many people call it soccer.....usually those that don't follow the sport...

    dickie davis famously tried to say that 'thered be more cup soccer next week...'...


    but got his words mixed up...

    I couldn't possibly repeat what he said on a family forum as this is... 
    All he said was "Cop succour".

    David Coleman used to say "soccer".

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    Posted by wolfie (U15842015) on Tuesday, 10th June 2014

    nope...he didn't say that...but what he said is unimportant...in the context of this discussion..its that he meant to say soccer...

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  • Message 48

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    Posted by HoraceCoker (U14258478) on Tuesday, 10th June 2014

    ...watched a replay of the Scotland/Holland match from '78 on thr red button...had to laugh as Alan Rough charged out of his penalty area and blatantly jumped on the ball when a dutch striker was through....today he would have been sent off.....and Scotland wouldnt have won...and how did Asa Hartford ever get into that side,,,,

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    Posted by wolfie (U15842015) on Tuesday, 10th June 2014

    lots of players would have been sent off in todays climate...



    the thing about that Holland match is that Holland wanted to lose it....

    so long as they only lost it by one or two goals theyd have been happy....

    as soon as Scotland went 3-1 up...Holland came back to score to make it 3-2...

    they could have scored at any time to win the match but they didn't want to win it...

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  • Message 50

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    Posted by HoraceCoker (U14258478) on Tuesday, 10th June 2014

    lots of players would have been sent off in todays climate...



    the thing about that Holland match is that Holland wanted to lose it....

    so long as they only lost it by one or two goals theyd have been happy....

    as soon as Scotland went 3-1 up...Holland came back to score to make it 3-2...

    they could have scored at any time to win the match but they didn't want to win it... 
    ...to avoid Argentina...till the final..didnt they play Italy...?

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