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  • Message 1. 

    Posted by Rosemary (U7231409) on Thursday, 20th March 2014

    Sorry if I'm inadvertently duplicating a thread; I couldn't find one.

    I have been looking forward to this, and according to the BBC Press Office it will be coming soon! smiley - smiley

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    Posted by Johnnymol (U14690244) on Sunday, 30th March 2014

    It takes the place of The Musketeers next week in the 9pm slot

    "Three volunteers face a baptism of fire as they arrive at a hospital in war torn France"

    And it's got two very good actresses in who are rarely in anything bad Kerry Fox and Suranne Jones - It looks good, and I hope it stays true to the high standard of BBC World War 1 productions so far and doesn't go down the "soapy" and "chocolate box" route

    It would have also been nice to have "Testament of Youth" repeated

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    Posted by mirandashell (U1946590) on Sunday, 30th March 2014

    I'm a bit nervous about this one. Judging from the trailers, it's more some doomed love affair than it is about the extremely important and traumatic work they did.

    Still, I'll give it a go and see how it plays out.

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    Posted by Johnnymol (U14690244) on Sunday, 30th March 2014

    I'm a bit nervous about this one. Judging from the trailers, it's more some doomed love affair than it is about the extremely important and traumatic work they did.

    Still, I'll give it a go and see how it plays out. 
    The trailers I don't think did it justice, and no matter how much I love "Call the Midwife" - It just gave me the impression that this was "Call the Midwife" goes to war.

    I really hope my initial impressions (before it starts) are totally wrong, but from the trailers I think the last thing on people's minds at the front was going all "Mills and Boon" and running about in the frothy sea.

    Fingers crossed that I have misjudged this forthcoming programme, because the BBC have so far been spot on in the WW1 programmes

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    Posted by mirandashell (U1946590) on Sunday, 30th March 2014

    I agree. I've got my fingers crossed that the only programme they've done so far on the major role that nurses played in WW1 hasn't been turned into a soap.

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    Posted by 5u55exPat (U14150756) on Sunday, 30th March 2014

    It also stars Oona Chaplin who was brilliant in The Hour.

    And nurses and soldiers did fall in love. That was part of the reality. Two friends of ours who died recently, in their nineties, met when she was a nurse and he was a soldier with TB during WW2.

    I'm just hoping for a really good drama because I'm going to be missing Musketeers for a long , long time (a year maybe)

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    Posted by mirandashell (U1946590) on Sunday, 30th March 2014

    I know it happened. But try turning it the other way. If the men were the focus of the drama, would it be about their love lives?

    There was a lot more to what those women did and experienced than who they fell in love with.

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    Posted by Jacobite (U15040963) on Sunday, 30th March 2014

    Agree about Testament of Youth-although looking slightly dated it was a wonderful series. Cheryl Campbell was great in it. What I.ve seen of The Crimson Field so far in trailers-it looks a bit too 'clean'

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    Posted by Rosemary (U7231409) on Sunday, 30th March 2014

    It also stars Oona Chaplin who was brilliant in The Hour.

    And nurses and soldiers did fall in love. That was part of the reality. Two friends of ours who died recently, in their nineties, met when she was a nurse and he was a soldier with TB during WW2.

    I'm just hoping for a really good drama because I'm going to be missing Musketeers for a long , long time (a year maybe) 
    Yes, I also thought she was excellent in The Hour. smiley - ok

    I think this has a delicate balancing act to do, navigating between accusations of being 'too soapy' if it includes stories of the nurses' personal lives and of 'too gory/boring/repetitive' if it concentrates on the historical and medical aspects to the exclusion of the nurses' personal lives. This last week I have read two comments about series 3 of 'Silk', one upbraiding it for getting 'all soapy' and the other excoriating it for 'never showing characters' real lives outside court or chambers', so it's clearly difficult to satisfy even a majority of viewers, never mind everyone!

    This has a very good cast, and the writer seems to have a good reputation. I think I'll give it the benefit of the doubt. smiley - smiley

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    Posted by Johnnymol (U14690244) on Sunday, 30th March 2014

    It also stars Oona Chaplin who was brilliant in The Hour.

    And nurses and soldiers did fall in love. That was part of the reality. Two friends of ours who died recently, in their nineties, met when she was a nurse and he was a soldier with TB during WW2.

    I'm just hoping for a really good drama because I'm going to be missing Musketeers for a long , long time (a year maybe) 
    Yes, I also thought she was excellent in The Hour. smiley - ok

    I think this has a delicate balancing act to do, navigating between accusations of being 'too soapy' if it includes stories of the nurses' personal lives and of 'too gory/boring/repetitive' if it concentrates on the historical and medical aspects to the exclusion of the nurses' personal lives. This last week I have read two comments about series 3 of 'Silk', one upbraiding it for getting 'all soapy' and the other excoriating it for 'never showing characters' real lives outside court or chambers', so it's clearly difficult to satisfy even a majority of viewers, never mind everyone!

    This has a very good cast, and the writer seems to have a good reputation. I think I'll give it the benefit of the doubt. smiley - smiley 
    I think we're all hoping it strikes the right balance, and of course you're right that to prevent it being a "docu-drama" there needs to be a human aspect to it - My issue is that the trailer currently being used does give the impression that it's the lovey-dovey part that is getting emphasised in what looks a very nice and neat film set.

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    Posted by Bonny (U14396592) on Sunday, 30th March 2014

    Thank you for posting this OP. I had no idea, and look forward to seeing it.

    It should, in theory, be excellent, but as ever the proof of the pudding is in the eating (or as in some cases extreme indigestion) so we will all see.

    Suranne Jones (as the brunette in 'Scott & Bailey') is excellent.

    TBH I never took to the 'Musketeers' but each to their own. Ergo: I will not miss it at all.

    Good feeling about this. Hope I'm right.

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    Posted by Rosemary (U7231409) on Sunday, 30th March 2014

    My issue is that the trailer currently being used does give the impression that it's the lovey-dovey part that is getting emphasised in what looks a very nice and neat film set.  Johnnymol, I just - literally just - received an alert to an article about The Crimson Field by Ian Wylie. Some members of the cast mentioned how the set became very muddy, wet and grimy as the filming went on. So the neatness and cleanliness may not last for long! smiley - smiley

    As for the trailer ... I see your point, but I can think of half a dozen excellent programmes that I might never have watched if I'd gone by the trailer alone. They can be very deceptive.

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    Posted by susiesar (U10941938) on Sunday, 30th March 2014

    I should imagine the reality will be along the lines of volunteer nurses getting the shock of their lives when they realise what life on the front line is like, just as the soldiers did and in those circumstances the compassion can easily turn to romance as they look to each other for comfort.

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    Posted by Geometry_Man (U12739007) on Tuesday, 1st April 2014

    Of the Beeb's WW1 output, this is the one that I've really been looking forward to (previously known as 'The Ark').

    It has a great cast, especially Oona Chaplin who is a big favourite of mine. I first noticed her in 'The Hour' but she was also excellent in 'Game of Thrones' and Channel 4's 'Dates'.

    Can't wait.

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    Posted by the_cleaner (U3423083) on Tuesday, 1st April 2014

    It also stars Oona Chaplin who was brilliant in The Hour.

    And nurses and soldiers did fall in love. That was part of the reality. Two friends of ours who died recently, in their nineties, met when she was a nurse and he was a soldier with TB during WW2.

    I'm just hoping for a really good drama because I'm going to be missing Musketeers for a long , long time (a year maybe) 
    "It also stars Oona Chaplin who was brilliant in The Hour."

    I like Oona Chaplin....) - she was/is great in Game of Thrones too.

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    Posted by Guv-nor (U7476305) on Sunday, 6th April 2014

    Certainly looks good from the trailer I saw.

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    Posted by Johnnymol (U14690244) on Sunday, 6th April 2014

    Fingers crossed it is good........There are a few who have commented on this thread who are hoping it is a truthful depiction and not a soapy production.

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    Posted by nick maroney (U14917587) on Sunday, 6th April 2014

    I am sorry but no matter how much you tart a programme up ,this is just yet another medical drama the BBC has put out , all that has changed is the setting , its hardly anything new we were promised .

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    Posted by monic1511 (U1768751) on Sunday, 6th April 2014

    Marshall is an irritating bit of fluff so far isn't she.

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    Posted by mirandashell (U1946590) on Sunday, 6th April 2014

    Hmm... it wasn't *as* soapy as I was afraid it might be, but it spent an awful lot of time setting up without saying very much. And it's all a bit stereotypical so far. Not madly impressed but I'll give it another go. And it's a shame about the writing as the calibre of actors deserves better.

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    Posted by susiesar (U10941938) on Sunday, 6th April 2014

    A promising start, can't see how it's just another medical drama we saw hardly any medical matters, there are enough stories rumbling under the surface to develop into something good.

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    Posted by goodhelenstar (U13943062) on Sunday, 6th April 2014

    Interesting opening episode with a lot of scene-setting, inevitably. I liked Kerry Fox's turn as not only a thief but also a hypocritical cow, sending Prentiss back to the front in order to please the Colonel. If I have a criticism at the moment it's how clean everything was. But a good first episode and I will keep watching.

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    Posted by Johnnymol (U14690244) on Sunday, 6th April 2014

    Not quite sure about this drama yet. The "minor" characters are fine, the matron, the jealous sister, the two colonels etc, but the 3 main nurses are a bit of a caricature at the moment, and are a bit annoying to watch.

    I was also mystified by the fact they were meant to be near the front, but there was no sound of guns or flashes in the night sky.

    It felt all a bit predictable and a bit lacking in something (can't quite put my finger on it)

    But I will keep watching

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    Posted by susiesar (U10941938) on Sunday, 6th April 2014

    It's a hospital just because it's a field hospital doesn't mean it's not clean in fact I should imagine cleanliness is a priority to stop infection

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    Posted by Diane (U16045066) on Sunday, 6th April 2014

    What an absolute load of rubbish. Badly acted and who wrote it - they didn't get their facts right. My grandfather was in the first world war and he and loads of his fellow soldiers would be mortified to have seen this. An absolute disgrace.

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    Posted by mirandashell (U1946590) on Sunday, 6th April 2014

    It gave me the impression that there hadn't been a big battle near there yet. And yes, it's nice to keep things clean but damn difficult to do in a field hospital.


    I don't know, all a bit predictable so far.

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    Posted by Foxy (U16045067) on Sunday, 6th April 2014

    WHAT was the point of that annoying commentary all the way through? I thought at first it was something interfering with the programme at the beginning because the voice was behind the music. That happened several times during the episode. It's like subtitles for the inept, completely unnecessary.
    I can only hope that it'll be quietly dropped for the future episodes..

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    Posted by hollybeau (U13700692) on Sunday, 6th April 2014

    An excellent start and plenty to keep me interested, I just knew the old sister wouldn't give the lad his blighty ticket home, punishment to the Colonel for not promoting her to matron I suppose.As for the cake I hope she choked on it.smiley - devil

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    Posted by mirandashell (U1946590) on Sunday, 6th April 2014

    I think I've worked out what was missing... humour. It was all a bit too fraught with no reason. Two of the volunteers seemed to be wound very tightly about stuff at home but that was laid on with a trowel but with no foundation. And the soldiers in WW1 used humour as a way of coping. So I'm pretty sure the nursing staff would too. It's what we humans do.

    I don't know.. it's fraught but it's not tense and therefore doesn't ring true.

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    Posted by goodhelenstar (U13943062) on Sunday, 6th April 2014

    Yes, I had realised it was a hospital! The whole place was spotless, as were all the uniforms. Even after dealing with that enormous pile of bandages (can you imagine the stench?) Flora barely had a hair out of place.

    I found the men being sent back to the front at night rather creepy. I wonder it that's what really happened.

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    Posted by Geometry_Man (U12739007) on Sunday, 6th April 2014

    Great start, held me engrossed for the hour. I'm definitely looking forward to next week.

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    Posted by mirandashell (U1946590) on Sunday, 6th April 2014

    Foxy, do you have your audio for the blind switched on? There was no commentary on the programme.

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    Posted by purwil (U14677803) on Sunday, 6th April 2014

    it will indeed by dropped if you turn off your equipment's Audio Description option.

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    Posted by deliacooks (U15907597) on Sunday, 6th April 2014

    I'm expecting the following episodes to show the mess and the chaos they had to work in when hundreds of casualties turned up following a major battle. We did have to be quick with the channel change button on this one, as they started their bl%*+*ed trailer so quickly and without warning. Hopefully we can last the week without being shown pretty much of the most of the next episode before its actually transmitted - but perhaps I shouldn't hold my breath on that one. smiley - sigh

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    Posted by Johnnymol (U14690244) on Sunday, 6th April 2014

    To me it had the feeling of something that should be scheduled for daytime TV like "Land Girls"

    I just didn't feel close to the 3 nurses to be particularly bothered about them. Instead I was more interested with the little scenes where they weren't in them.

    Also there were wounded, but no sense there was a war going on just a few miles away.

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    Posted by Foxy (U16045067) on Sunday, 6th April 2014

    Wow I didn't even know that existed, nor how it got turned on! Ghosts in the machine smiley - winkeye
    I'll watch again in a different way from now.. Thanks!

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    Posted by susiesar (U10941938) on Sunday, 6th April 2014

    We know what they're like by now have to sit with a finger perminently on the channel change button smiley - grr
    I should imagine it will get grittier as it goes on

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    Posted by Phil-ap (U13637313) on Sunday, 6th April 2014

    Yes, I had realised it was a hospital! The whole place was spotless, as were all the uniforms. Even after dealing with that enormous pile of bandages (can you imagine the stench?) Flora barely had a hair out of place.

    I found the men being sent back to the front at night rather creepy. I wonder it that's what really happened. 
    I thought Flora looked a mess in fact matron commented on it. If mud is at a premium it is because the hospital is sited on sand being near the sea. The soldiers uniforms were filthy.
    It is obviously very well researched and a lot of time and trouble has been spent getting the set and costumes right. The writer wanted to throw people with a variety of backgrounds together which should make for interesting relationships.

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    Posted by Richard Kellaway (U5207352) on Sunday, 6th April 2014

    Not a single hospital corner on the made beds to be seen. Pathetic.

    A naval salute from an army officer? Ignorance!

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    Posted by mirandashell (U1946590) on Sunday, 6th April 2014

    Wow I didn't even know that existed, nor how it got turned on! Ghosts in the machine smiley - winkeye
    I'll watch again in a different way from now.. Thanks! 
    Don't worry Foxy, you're not the first to have that happen!

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    Posted by Rosemary (U7231409) on Sunday, 6th April 2014

    Great start, held me engrossed for the hour. I'm definitely looking forward to next week.  I'll second that. I thought the acting was good, especially from Kevin Doyle, Kerry Fox and Hermione Norris, and although I'm no more than an amateur historian, the set looked very authentic to me.

    I too found the sending of troops up the line at night very unsettling, but it seems to me it probably might well have been done that way; no thermal imaging cameras or all-seeing spy drones in those days, so probably the best chance at moving troops and keeping the movement under wraps.

    What a dreadful thought, that they had to have an oven built to burn the quantities of amputated limbs ... smiley - sadface

    Another satisfied viewer who will be watching next week, too.

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    Posted by Johnnymol (U14690244) on Sunday, 6th April 2014

    Yes, I had realised it was a hospital! The whole place was spotless, as were all the uniforms. Even after dealing with that enormous pile of bandages (can you imagine the stench?) Flora barely had a hair out of place.

    I found the men being sent back to the front at night rather creepy. I wonder it that's what really happened. 
    I thought Flora looked a mess in fact matron commented on it. If mud is at a premium it is because the hospital is sited on sand being near the sea. The soldiers uniforms were filthy.
    It is obviously very well researched and a lot of time and trouble has been spent getting the set and costumes right. The writer wanted to throw people with a variety of backgrounds together which should make for interesting relationships. 
    But where was the sound of war Phil_ap.........It's well known the guns could be heard miles away (even in Dover), but not a sound at a field hospital noted by the sergeant at the docks as the nearest to the front.

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    Posted by Phil-ap (U13637313) on Sunday, 6th April 2014

    To me it had the feeling of something that should be scheduled for daytime TV like "Land Girls"

    I just didn't feel close to the 3 nurses to be particularly bothered about them. Instead I was more interested with the little scenes where they weren't in them.

    Also there were wounded, but no sense there was a war going on just a few miles away. 
    The Oona Chaplin character is very interesting and I really want to know why she is the way she is. My main concern is that the men will turn out as caricatures however well the women are written given that the writer is female.

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    Posted by Geometry_Man (U12739007) on Sunday, 6th April 2014

    I got the impression that the hospital was going through a "quiet time" between offensives, with all those empty beds - and that maybe they were gearing up for an expected influx of casualties when the next big attack comes.

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    Posted by mirandashell (U1946590) on Sunday, 6th April 2014

    That's rubbish, Philap. IMO, none of the characters are well written, male or female. They are all stereotypes. The strict Matron, the two-faced sister, the upper class innocent, the hypocritical one, the one crossed in love and the feminist.

    Nothing unexpected so far. The only reason to keep watching is the quality of the actors. Hermione Norris and Oona Chaplin especially.

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    Posted by Johnnymol (U14690244) on Sunday, 6th April 2014

    And that's another thing what didn't ring true to me........The men marching back to the front.

    Were they all from the same regiment?........You just wouldn't be marched back to the front, pick up a rifle and get into a trench - You would have been taken back to your regiment, and that regiment might be elsewhere, or even back in England.

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    Posted by Rosemary (U7231409) on Sunday, 6th April 2014

    My main concern is that the men will turn out as caricatures however well the women are written given that the writer is female.  Phil-ap, a good writer is perfectly able to write good characters of either sex, not just his or her own. The series is only one episode old! Give the poor woman a chance before suggesting she can't write decent male characters.

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    Posted by lucy (U14792533) on Sunday, 6th April 2014

    Great start, held me engrossed for the hour. I'm definitely looking forward to next week.  Me too. I'm not watching critically as to whether it's 100% accurate or not, just taking it as a good well acted drama set in WWi.

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    Posted by Phil-ap (U13637313) on Sunday, 6th April 2014

    My main concern is that the men will turn out as caricatures however well the women are written given that the writer is female.  Phil-ap, a good writer is perfectly able to write good characters of either sex, not just his or her own. The series is only one episode old! Give the poor woman a chance before suggesting she can't write decent male characters.  Fair comment but for now I have seen all the male characters in other films and series. I look forward to being surprised and I am not suggesting that she is a bad writer.

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    Posted by deliacooks (U15907597) on Sunday, 6th April 2014

    I'm looking forward to the next episode. Some good acting, so far.

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