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  • Message 1. 

    Posted by Elly65 (U15959859) on Monday, 16th December 2013

    Despite everything in the media and papers, the BBC are showing a Nigella Christmas cookery programme. Can I just say that both the BBC and Nigella rock!

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    Posted by ARENA (U3567614) on Monday, 16th December 2013

    Stuff the turkey and the media!

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    Posted by David James (U2017805) on Monday, 16th December 2013

    Here here. Her private life is just that, private. Sick to death of the media and their constant muck raking. I could listen to Nigellas voice all evening. Thank you BBC!

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    Posted by Bidie-In (U2747062) on Monday, 16th December 2013

    Yes, her private life is private. But, under oath, she has admitted breaking the law by using drugs.

    Other presenters have been dismissed for similar.

    The Beeb needs to be seen to be consistent.

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    Posted by olderoses (U13772065) on Monday, 16th December 2013

    Nigellissima...pure indulgence...I must have a pink vermouth cocktail to wash it all down.
    smiley - bubbly

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    Posted by Testcard (U1164920) on Monday, 16th December 2013

    Careful with that icing sugar, Nigella.

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    Posted by Bouillaguet (U14312340) on Monday, 16th December 2013

    Yes, her private life is private. But, under oath, she has admitted breaking the law by using drugs.

    Other presenters have been dismissed for similar.

    The Beeb needs to be seen to be consistent. 
    We were saying exactly the same thing in this house.

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    Posted by Onslow The Cat (U13672446) on Monday, 16th December 2013

    Here here. Her private life is just that, private. Sick to death of the media and their constant muck raking. I could listen to Nigellas voice all evening. Thank you BBC! 

    See here: en.wikipedia.org/wik...

    smiley - blackcat

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    Posted by ARENA (U3567614) on Monday, 16th December 2013

    Most of your politicains have admitted to using drugs. Nigella only cooks FGS!

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    Posted by GARGLEBLASTER (U3191065) on Monday, 16th December 2013

    I'd rather look at Nigella than Michel Roux any day!

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    Posted by GZ (U5310554) on Monday, 16th December 2013

    Most of your politicains have admitted to using drugs. Nigella only cooks FGS!  And many of the musical acts that you see on TV.

    Quite a number of actors as well.

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    Posted by madauntydawn (U6675998) on Monday, 16th December 2013

    Here here. Her private life is just that, private. Sick to death of the media and their constant muck raking. I could listen to Nigellas voice all evening. Thank you BBC!  Forgive me David, but before this thread gets closed...........it's my only hobby-horse..........that should be "Hear, hear".

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    Posted by Johnbee (U542312) on Monday, 16th December 2013

    < Careful with that icing sugar, Nigella. >


    I don't think she will risk any of that type of thing. No, I read that she is to stuff a turkey with a sausage. Safe enough for her fans I guess.

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    Posted by madauntydawn (U6675998) on Monday, 16th December 2013

    This is a repeat so it was in the can, as it were.

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    Posted by Bidie-In (U2747062) on Monday, 16th December 2013

    Most of your politicains have admitted to using drugs. Nigella only cooks FGS!  I wasn't condemning her - alcohol causes many deaths every year yet remains legal.

    My point was the BBC need to have the same rules for every person who appears on screen - one strike and your out.

    For a while at least.

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    Posted by Critical Bill (U15246880) on Monday, 16th December 2013

    the BBc usually remove people for drug taking so I guess her career won't be with the BBc for long, this programme was probably an oversight on planning. It's a shame I liked the homely atmosphere conveyed on her programmes but now they seem so false.

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    Posted by aviddiva (U13145965) on Tuesday, 17th December 2013

    A presenter elsewhere apologised for a joke Simon Greenall made on air about the Nigella allegations.

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    Posted by Annie-Lou est Charlie (U4502268) on Tuesday, 17th December 2013

    < Careful with that icing sugar, Nigella. >


    I don't think she will risk any of that type of thing. No, I read that she is to stuff a turkey with a sausage. Safe enough for her fans I guess. 
    Yep, good to know that even in this modern post-feminist world, all a girl has to do is handle a salami provocatively to get everyone to forget about all her little indiscretions! smiley - laugh

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    Posted by AliceHaddock (U15933835) on Tuesday, 17th December 2013

    Hidden  smiley - laugh smiley - laugh smiley - laugh

    So glad this hasn't been modded

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    Posted by Dee_host (U15846799) on Tuesday, 17th December 2013

    cough cough

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    Posted by AliceHaddock (U15933835) on Tuesday, 17th December 2013

    Hidden  smiley - laugh smiley - laugh smiley - laugh

    So glad this hasn't been modded 
    Got to read it just in time!

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    Posted by Kirsty90 (U2319212) on Tuesday, 17th December 2013

    Robbie Williams used lots of drugs in the past too and still gets lots of free publicity on the bbc

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    Posted by Dover Soul (U14934992) on Tuesday, 17th December 2013

    Great TV cook, good recipes that stand the test of time.

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    Posted by Annie-Lou est Charlie (U4502268) on Tuesday, 17th December 2013

    Great TV cook, good recipes that stand the test of time.  Lordy, I hope not! Most of them seem to consist of combinations of chocolate, syrup and condensed milk that would make Winnie the Pooh gag!!

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    Posted by MsA (U14389417) on Tuesday, 17th December 2013

    Yes, her private life is private. But, under oath, she has admitted breaking the law by using drugs.

    Other presenters have been dismissed for similar.

    The Beeb needs to be seen to be consistent. 
    Certainly comments are being made at the Bar about all this. It isn't approppriate given the evidence that her show is being aired whilst the hearing continues.

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    Posted by Sir Walter Ker of Cessford (U15960320) on Tuesday, 17th December 2013

    I really don't see any inconcistency of policy.

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    Posted by Dover Soul (U14934992) on Tuesday, 17th December 2013

    I don't understand why the court case or anything said in it is being allowed to be discussed here at all. It's never been allowed on BBC messageboards in the past.

    As I said, Nigella is a great TV cook with recipes that have stood the test of time.

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    Posted by MsA (U14389417) on Tuesday, 17th December 2013

    I don't understand why the court case or anything said in it is being allowed to be discussed here at all. It's never been allowed on BBC messageboards in the past.

    As I said, Nigella is a great TV cook with recipes that have stood the test of time. 
    Neither the case nor the contents of the evidence is being discussed. But televising her shows is not appropriate until the hearing is over and a judgement delivered.

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    Posted by Dover Soul (U14934992) on Tuesday, 17th December 2013

    It still doesn't change the fact that anything happening in any court involving Nigella has nothing whatsoever to do with the programme "Nigella" or "Nigellissamo". This board is supposed to be about BBC programmes so anything outside of commenting about the content or presentation of the programmes should be off topic. Whether Nigella Lawson is dropped by the BBC in the future now seems irrelevant as she is certainly being hung out to dry by allowing the sort of comments about information revealed in an ongoing court case, on this board.

    As I have said before, Nigella is a great TV cook with recipes that have stood the test of time.

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    Posted by Bidie-In (U2747062) on Tuesday, 17th December 2013

    Yes she is.

    But she has confessed to breaking the law, under oath.

    The Beeb should perhaps have held back on rescreening one of her series....

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    Posted by GZ (U5310554) on Tuesday, 17th December 2013

    If you feel that strongly about it Dover Soul then perhaps you should report whichever posts you feel are off topic and let the hosts decide what is an is not allowable.

    The fact that this thread remains open and posts that relate to open admissions made in court remain means that this thread and its comments have not been deemed to be off topic and allowable for continued discussion.

    But if you feel the hosts/mods have dropped the ball then perhaps take it to a higher power.

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    Posted by Essential Rabbit (U3613943) on Tuesday, 17th December 2013

    Yes, her private life is private. But, under oath, she has admitted breaking the law by using drugs.

    Other presenters have been dismissed for similar.

    The Beeb needs to be seen to be consistent. 
    Without making much of an effort, I can think of several self-confessed drug takers that the BBC regularly brings into our living rooms, and they aren't half as pleasant as Nigella.

    I see no lack of consistency.

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    Posted by Dover Soul (U14934992) on Tuesday, 17th December 2013

    But nothing has changed about her presentation of her programme(s) that are being repeated. This is the POV board about TV programmes, whatever is in the news is not normally allowed so why is Nigella any different?

    Posts are being made about what has happened recently in a courtcase, after the programmes were made, after the programmes are being repeated. They aren't referring to the content or presentation of the actual programme(s) they are only referring to the information from the courtcase, in other words news, so why are they allowed on this board under the headings of the programme(s) when they in fact have nothing to do with the programme(s) and are only personal comments about the news revealed in a courtcase?

    www.bbc.co.uk/dna/mb...

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    Posted by GZ (U5310554) on Tuesday, 17th December 2013

    I think you will find that this thread started as a poster thanking the BBC for standing beside Nigella during this difficult time in her life.

    Other posters felt that it was not appropriate for her programme to be on the air given the admissions in court - which are a matter of public record.

    So this thread doesnt seem to be about the presentation of the programme - nor is it about the court case specifically either.

    Its various posters putting forth differing opinions on whether or not its appropriate to air the programme at this point in time.

    And the BBC may very well be interested in the public opinion on this and that may be why the thread is being allowed to remain open Dover Soul.

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    Posted by Martyn (U14949330) on Tuesday, 17th December 2013

    I don't understand why the court case or anything said in it is being allowed to be discussed here at all. It's never been allowed on BBC messageboards in the past.

    As I said, Nigella is a great TV cook with recipes that have stood the test of time. 
    Neither the case nor the contents of the evidence is being discussed. But televising her shows is not appropriate until the hearing is over and a judgement delivered. 
    Why? Nigella isn't the one on trial, though you wouldn't know that from the coverage on television of the trial.

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    Posted by MsA (U14389417) on Wednesday, 18th December 2013

    I don't understand why the court case or anything said in it is being allowed to be discussed here at all. It's never been allowed on BBC messageboards in the past.

    As I said, Nigella is a great TV cook with recipes that have stood the test of time. 
    Neither the case nor the contents of the evidence is being discussed. But televising her shows is not appropriate until the hearing is over and a judgement delivered. 
    Why? Nigella isn't the one on trial, though you wouldn't know that from the coverage on television of the trial. 
    Because damaging allegations have been made by more than one witness of conduct which, if true, would amount to criminal offences. Even ITV News at Ten commented last night expressing surprise that the shows were still being transmitted. As I've said elsewhere comments are being made in the highest legal circles. It's not Nigella I'm taking issue with, it's the BBC.

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    Posted by Annie-Lou est Charlie (U4502268) on Wednesday, 18th December 2013

    The judge has criticised the PM for saying he is "team Nigella" and thus potentially influencing the outcome.
    Maybe the same could be said of the National Broadcaster?

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    Posted by old git at 70 (U14213449) on Wednesday, 18th December 2013

    The judge has criticised the PM for saying he is "team Nigella" and thus potentially influencing the outcome.
    Maybe the same could be said of the National Broadcaster? 
    yes one rule for the men and another for the women .
    men are accused of under age sex 40 years ago, they are pulled immediately( Quite Right) but a woman is indirectly accused of taking a banned substance, and as you say her programmes continue to be shown
    DOUBLE STANDARDS .

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    Posted by Dover Soul (U14934992) on Wednesday, 18th December 2013

    Just out of interest Annie-Lou, and anyone else who doesn't think any programmes Nigella has recorded in the past, have you actually made a complaint to the BBC about this? Because I'm sorry to say that only posting on this board, especially when POV isn't being aired at the moment, nothing is going to be done.

    I did ask on the "Ask Dee" thread why this thread is continuing when it has nothing to do with the actual programme content, but it seems these says any discussion about a BBC presenter is also alowed, not sure when that changed.

    I personally don't care that Nigella has admitted to taking drugs in the past, even David Cameron has admitted the same. I just thought this board was supposed to be about programme content / presentation, not about the personal lives of said presenters.

    When it comes to the bottom line, even when the next POV series starts, I doubt any of the comments on here will be used, ie of any use, to the programme itself.

    smiley - shrug

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    Posted by GZ (U5310554) on Wednesday, 18th December 2013

    It works the same for many types of complaint Dover Soul.

    You have complained in this thread that you dont think discussion of Nigella's court disclosures is appropriate.

    You admitted in the Ask Dee thread that you triangled at least one post in this thread but recieved a message telling you that it was not off topic and would be allowed to remain.

    You complained in the Ask Dee thread and she advised you that she felt this thread was not off topic and she was going to allow it to remain.

    And yet here you are still complaining that you feel the line of discussion is inappropriate.

    So Annie-Lou may well ask you if you complained formally to the BBC.

    Sometimes people like to get things off their chest and feel this is as good a venue as any.

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    Posted by Dover Soul (U14934992) on Wednesday, 18th December 2013

    No GZ, that is the whole point. I have posted on this thread about my feelings. Complaining and making a complaint to the BBC is a different matter.

    My concern is that this thread is not about the actual programme content. I have asked Dee about it, as you kindly pointed out, and she said she was leaving it be.

    I am not still complaining about anything, because posting on here is not complaining. Annie-Lou seems to feel the programmes shouldn't still be aired, nothing anyone posts on here is going to make a difference to that. Only making a complaint directy to the BBC will do that. www.bbc.co.uk/compla...

    Personally I don't feel that repeated programmes of Nigella programmes should be removed, because they are no different in content as they were first time round.

    GZ, posts on these boards are not complaints. My post on here gave my opinion, my post to Dee asked questions. Neither were complaints.

    This whole board is supposed to be to support the POV programme, which is not being aired at the moment and won't be back on for a few weeks. So if other people are posting here, thinking they are complaining to the BBC, that isn't the case.

    The BBC has a complaints department, this is only a Points of View board for the programme POV.

    My posts are simply that, my Point of View - not complaints. I assure you there IS a difference.

    If Annie-Lou asks me if I have complained to the BBC the answer would be no, because I don't have a complaint about Nigella's programmes being repeated. I repeat, I have only given my point of view on this board, I don't have any complaint about the programme being shown so I haven't nd wouldn't make a complaint.

    Yes people like to get things off their chest and feel this is as good a place as any......... but if they do feel that strongly they need to make a complaint directly to the BBC or nothing will get done, especially when the POV programme is off the air.

    Oh, and I don't remember telling you exactly what was in the email I received.

    I really would appreciate you comprehending the difference between posting a point of view and complaining / making a complaint. Oh and getting off my back too.

    None of this is about the actual Nigella programme content, which I enjoy and will watch whenever they are repeated because I enjoy them. My only point was that in the past we were not permitted to make personal comments about presenters unless it was directly related to the actual presentation of the programme, nor were we allowed to make personal comments about any BBC person involved in a court case, during any court case and didn't know this had changed.

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    Posted by Ria_H (U14999558) on Wednesday, 18th December 2013

    The judge has criticised the PM for saying he is "team Nigella" and thus potentially influencing the outcome.
    Maybe the same could be said of the National Broadcaster? 
    yes one rule for the men and another for the women .
    men are accused of under age sex 40 years ago, they are pulled immediately( Quite Right) but a woman is indirectly accused of taking a banned substance, and as you say her programmes continue to be shown
    DOUBLE STANDARDS . 
    Or maybe that taking drugs (harm yourself) is a different standard of crime than underage abuse (harm a vulnerable other person). And even though she is not on trial I think she will be severely punished by the whole uproar. Those who hate drugs and drug users will turn away from her. All in the media who think she is tarnished enough in the public view won't hire her or drop her like a hot potato. That will happen with the BBC as well if the public 's opinion turns against her.

    As for me, who liked her okay and basically thinks the use of cocaine is a way of life in the celebrity fast lane, I can't watch her show now without wondering how this old-fashioned homieness compares with personal assistants, 700,000+ pounds creditcards and domestic abuse. She has lost her tv-persona. The Beeb may still show what is in the can, but I wonder how many people are watching with the same bitter aftertaste or won't bother watching at all.

    I do feel sorry for her, poor little rich girl.

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    Posted by Essential Rabbit (U3613943) on Wednesday, 18th December 2013

    If people start up and host their own message boards, then they can control what, where and when posters can post.

    To try to do so on someone else's board seems a bit odd to me.

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    Posted by Annie-Lou est Charlie (U4502268) on Thursday, 19th December 2013

    No, LUABNFC, I haven't made a complaint as I'm honestly not bothered either way. I was merely making an observation about something the judge had said which may be relevant. Clearly Nigella's popularity is an issue in the trial as it is basically the word of the two sisters against that of a popular celebrity.

    For me personally, I find it very hard to care about the internal wranglings of a bunch of hugely over-privileged folks. Nigella, for me, started out being good fun but has long since become a grotesque joke, a parody of herself.

    (BTW If I were her, I'm not sure I'd want Dave on my "team", it hasn't done Andy or Rebekkka much good!)

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    Posted by RHM (U12452732) on Thursday, 19th December 2013

    I really enjoy watching Nigella's shows. I have no interest in her personal life or the difficulties therein. What she does outside of her cookery shows is none of my business. I dont judge her because I do not walk in her shoes. I am happy to watch her whenever time allows.

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    Posted by MsA (U14389417) on Friday, 20th December 2013

    The judge has criticised the PM for saying he is "team Nigella" and thus potentially influencing the outcome.
    Maybe the same could be said of the National Broadcaster? 
    yes one rule for the men and another for the women .
    men are accused of under age sex 40 years ago, they are pulled immediately( Quite Right) but a woman is indirectly accused of taking a banned substance, and as you say her programmes continue to be shown
    DOUBLE STANDARDS . 
    Or maybe that taking drugs (harm yourself) is a different standard of crime than underage abuse (harm a vulnerable other person). And even though she is not on trial I think she will be severely punished by the whole uproar. Those who hate drugs and drug users will turn away from her. All in the media who think she is tarnished enough in the public view won't hire her or drop her like a hot potato. That will happen with the BBC as well if the public 's opinion turns against her.

    As for me, who liked her okay and basically thinks the use of cocaine is a way of life in the celebrity fast lane, I can't watch her show now without wondering how this old-fashioned homieness compares with personal assistants, 700,000+ pounds creditcards and domestic abuse. She has lost her tv-persona. The Beeb may still show what is in the can, but I wonder how many people are watching with the same bitter aftertaste or won't bother watching at all.

    I do feel sorry for her, poor little rich girl. 
    What a very good post you make.

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