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    Posted by puppydogeyes (U14659366) ** on Saturday, 29th June 2013

    The boys are back this Sunday-8pm BBC2

    The motoring magazine returns with the action kicking off in New Zealand, as Jeremy Clarkson and James May race a car against a boat in a nail-biting battle up the beautiful coastline to the very tip of the North Island.

    www.bbc.co.uk/progra...

    If you don't like -don't watch smiley - ok

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    Posted by Prophet Tenebrae (U5995226) ** on Saturday, 29th June 2013

    Brace yourself for the usual suspects to seem positively shocked that a show which has been about men falling over and being silly for over a decade not being a serious car show.

    Really though, I'm more curious as to whether this will be another BBC cashcow that's starting to feel as if has been milked too much when it should have been put out to pasture... There's only one way to find out.

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    Posted by hobleyduck (U13733006) ** on Saturday, 29th June 2013

    Boys being the operative word

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    Posted by Franky (U13761133) on Saturday, 29th June 2013

    No, "boys" is unfair on boys.

    The cars are just props.

    Its daft - nothing to ever take seriously, and makes a change

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    Posted by Dover Soul (U14934992) on Saturday, 29th June 2013

    Thanks for the heads up cody smiley - ok I haven't watched it as much as I did at one time. Maybe time to get into it again. smiley - smiley

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    Posted by Huckerback (U14411634) on Saturday, 29th June 2013

    Brace yourself for the usual suspects to seem positively shocked that a show which has been about men falling over and being silly for over a decade not being a serious car show. 

    Is that the only reason it's still on BBC2 - because it started off there when it was a serious programme?

    Time to shift it to BBC1 or 3 I reckon - it's not what BBC2 is supposed to be for.

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    Posted by puppydogeyes (U14659366) ** on Saturday, 29th June 2013

    BBC3 Monday 7 pm-so you can watch it again smiley - ok

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    Posted by Huckerback (U14411634) on Saturday, 29th June 2013

    Rather proves the point.

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    Posted by puppydogeyes (U14659366) ** on Saturday, 29th June 2013

    Rather proves the point.  Another chance too see-proves no point at all

    If you dont like it -dont watch it-oops said that already-another chance for me to repeat it. smiley - smiley

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    Posted by papivsafehouse (U14712952) on Saturday, 29th June 2013

    I used to hate TG as I thought they didn't take cars seriously and the camera kept doing close ups of wheels and wing mirrors !

    Then as my life became more serious, and the show became more ridiculous, I love it ! It is just some stress relief seeing where all the money gets spent !

    Can't wait.

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    Posted by SAB888 (U14777346) on Saturday, 29th June 2013

    It is just some stress relief seeing where all the money gets spent !

    Can't wait. 
    The BBC probably makes a lot more money in profit on Top Gear than it costs to make it.

    Really looking forward to the new series. Pity it's only 6 episodes this series.

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    Posted by MrT (U15054385) on Sunday, 30th June 2013

    OMG - it's going to feature an America's Cup racing catamaran, the F1 of sailing! Sailing on the BBC? Surely not... smiley - winkeye

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    Posted by Bonny (U14396592) on Sunday, 30th June 2013

    The boys are back this Sunday-8pm BBC2

    www.bbc.co.uk/progra...

    If you don't like -don't watchsmiley - ok 
    Alright, then I won't then smiley - laugh

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    Posted by lp229 (U14736234) on Sunday, 30th June 2013

    Brace yourself for the usual suspects to seem positively shocked that a show which has been about men falling over and being silly for over a decade not being a serious car show. 

    Top Gear now rarely appeals to me. The problem is that it pretends to be a car magazine show when really it is just an expensive sit-com. The presenters' supposed mishaps are so horribly staged that it just looks as though a group of bored middle aged men are attention seeking. It all seems rather pathetic.

    In less than ten years ago, TG was actually a highly entertaining programme. There were some interesting and meaningful challenges and the humor, while less to the forefront, was organic.

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    Posted by Prophet Tenebrae (U5995226) ** on Sunday, 30th June 2013

    I can agree with you there, Ip229... it has become a parody of itself.

    For a show that once had them playing conkers with caravans, it's impressive that it has gone so far as to make those events seem tame by comparison.

    For me, the issue is twofold... the first and most pressing issue is the suspension of disbelief. When Jeremy managed to burn down a caravan, one could raise an eyebrow even while laughing but as things have gotten more outlandish - it's surprising they don't have a DVD full of outtakes where things didn't fall off when they were supposed to etc. It would be like an otherwise straightforward sitcom having a character turn to the camera and go "this joke is going to be great", just at random.

    Secondly, it's getting tired - much like its presenters. I suspect the reason that they feel the need to make the challenges ever more BIGGEST and MOST EPIC and other such superlative is because they're all so very paint by numbers.

    1. Make fun of cars.
    2. Commentary on foreign country (optional extra - say something intended to offend said country).
    3. Admiration of pretty landscape.
    4. Predictable challenges.
    5. Boyish hijinks.
    6. Car breaks down.
    7. More boyish hijinks.
    8. Bland and generic admiration of country.
    9. Statement of undying love for their now ruined car.

    There might be the occasional bits of variation and some might say "don't mess with success" but with the same people, saying the same things and only the landscape changing... it just all feels a bit "here we go again".

    Much like HIGNFY, I'll watch it because it's on but it needs to be put out to pasture... If we keep on the old favourites forever, we'll never get a new generation of shows.

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    Posted by hobleyduck (U13733006) ** on Sunday, 30th June 2013

    You could say its run out of mileage smiley - laugh

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    Posted by SAB888 (U14777346) on Sunday, 30th June 2013

    Apparently, Top Gear is the world's most widely watched factual television programme, so they must be pleasing a lot of people, and not just in the UK, including me. smiley - smiley

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    Posted by Prophet Tenebrae (U5995226) ** on Sunday, 30th June 2013

    Apparently, Top Gear is the world's most widely watched factual television programme, so they must be pleasing a lot of people, and not just in the UK, including me. smiley - smiley  A rather egregious abuse of the English language to describe Top Gear as factual (although, the BBC's inability to understand the word would explain a lot about the likes of Horizon et al) but I don't think anyone disputes its popularity.

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    Posted by SAB888 (U14777346) on Sunday, 30th June 2013

    Apparently, Top Gear is the world's most widely watched factual television programme, so they must be pleasing a lot of people, and not just in the UK, including me. smiley - smiley  A rather egregious abuse of the English language to describe Top Gear as factual (although, the BBC's inability to understand the word would explain a lot about the likes of Horizon et al) but I don't think anyone disputes its popularity.  There you go, it won National Television Awards: Top Gear was nominated for a National Television Award in the Most Popular Factual Programme category; it won the award in 2006, 2007, 2008 and 2011. Sort of ironic but quite funny really.

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    Posted by me_the_first (U1291324) on Sunday, 30th June 2013

    All I'm going to say is "Youtube", "Stewart Lee", and "Top Gear".

    Enjoy the show.

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    Posted by Quizzimodo (U551071) on Sunday, 30th June 2013

    This outrageous/brilliant.

    Three childish old men/excellent presenters

    Lots of stupid/excellent stunts/items.

    Pathetic waste of license fee payers money/great use of the license fee

    Please feel free to copy & past the above cutting out the words that don't apply to you

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    Posted by Prophet Tenebrae (U5995226) ** on Sunday, 30th June 2013

    Apparently, Top Gear is the world's most widely watched factual television programme, so they must be pleasing a lot of people, and not just in the UK, including me. smiley - smiley  A rather egregious abuse of the English language to describe Top Gear as factual (although, the BBC's inability to understand the word would explain a lot about the likes of Horizon et al) but I don't think anyone disputes its popularity.  There you go, it won National Television Awards: Top Gear was nominated for a National Television Award in the Most Popular Factual Programme category; it won the award in 2006, 2007, 2008 and 2011. Sort of ironic but quite funny really.  Ironic that Top Gear is classed as factual? Not sort of - it's the very definition of irony.

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    Posted by puppydogeyes (U14659366) ** on Sunday, 30th June 2013

    Up/down to the usual standard-it is an entertainment show not really claiming to be anything else-this poster enjoyed it smiley - ok

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    Posted by henry crun (U14339711) on Sunday, 30th June 2013

    Factual ? Oh really ?

    Look at the episode where they took an electric car and drove around and around offscreen flattening the batteries deliberately so that it eventually left them stranded onscreen.

    I read that Tesla were considering taking them to court.

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    Posted by alan997 (U1233723) on Sunday, 30th June 2013

    Well that was fun!

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    Posted by z4mster (U14864348) on Sunday, 30th June 2013

    Factual ? Oh really ?

    Look at the episode where they took an electric car and drove around and around offscreen flattening the batteries deliberately so that it eventually left them stranded onscreen.

    I read that Tesla were considering taking them to court. 

    Tesla did take them to court, and lost.

    Tesla appealed. The appeal was rejected.

    "very thin" is, what I recall, one of the appeal judges described their claim as.

    Fortunately Tesla was ordered to pay the BBC's costs.

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    Posted by MrT (U15054385) on Monday, 1st July 2013

    I enjoyed last night's show, but then I would as I like sailing and it featured Ben Ainslie helming an Americas Cup racing catamaran. The challenge was a bit silly as those boats are designed to race each other round tight courses in sheltered waters. They were lucky not to capsize in the big swell! It was a bit like using an F1 car to race from London to Newcastle. I'm surprised they didn't use a Scooby Impreza or similar to keep the perol heads happy rather than a Toyota hire car. Though they did compare the latest hot hatches for boy racers to keep them happy. Anyway I enjoyed it!

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    Posted by sesley (U4024157) on Monday, 1st July 2013

    Yeah its back.loved the whole program,full of funny bits and entertainment.Loved the new reasonably priced car bit and the race in New Zealand. I do hope they brought in a specailly adapted car for the small man(can't remember his name) to make it a fair competition.

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    Posted by alan997 (U1233723) on Monday, 1st July 2013

    the small man(can't remember his name). 
    Richard Hammond.

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    Posted by incandescent (U14877400) on Monday, 1st July 2013

    the small man(can't remember his name). 
    Richard Hammond. 

    Or do we mean Warwick Davis?

    Hammond is a giant by comparison.

    www.warwickdavis.co....

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    Posted by shilkman (U13628054) on Tuesday, 2nd July 2013

    Pity it's only 6 episodes this series.  Oh that's a blessed relief. The mixture as before I see. One big yawn. Flicked thro' it on the PVR and moved to something worth watching.....zzzzzzzzzz smiley - whistle

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    Posted by GaryB007 (U3895241) on Tuesday, 2nd July 2013

    It made a change to get a real review of some cars that average buyers can afford.

    Watched it on the PVR but whizzed through he stupid "race". The rest was good.

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    Posted by Pizza (U2178233) on Tuesday, 2nd July 2013

    Love it! smiley - biggrin Great fun.

    The pompous Top Gear of the 1990s had become tedious.

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    Posted by Harvey Specter (U4307220) ** on Wednesday, 3rd July 2013

    Still enjoy this nonsense although if there is room for a million cooking shows (which i also love to be honest) I do think there is room for a more serious car review show on the bbc.

    Even though I enjoy Top Gear and have for years, I do find that the actual serious car reviews, along with the hyperbole that accompany them, are the most enjoyable pieces in the series.

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    Posted by Ken Smart (U1158196) on Wednesday, 3rd July 2013

    I honestly never thought of the previous versions of Top Gear as 'pompous'. I suspect that it's all about what kind of programme we want to see. I haven't watched TG for decades, and cringe when I see the trails of the current version. It would seem as if speeding around a circuit, or crashing into something is great fun, when all I'm interested in, is technical information and professional opinions on the vehicles that are currently in the market place. Nevertheless, the current versions longevity would confirm that it has a loyal audience. I would still insist there is an opening for a serious motoring programme which would serve some useful purpose to those considering a purchase.

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    Posted by z4mster (U14864348) on Wednesday, 3rd July 2013

    all I'm interested in, is technical information and professional opinions on the vehicles that are currently in the market place. Nevertheless, the current versions longevity would confirm that it has a loyal audience. I would still insist there is an opening for a serious motoring programme which would serve some useful purpose to those considering a purchase. 
    Not that I am saying that is what you meant, but it is so easy now, as an "average motorist" to just go into any dealership, unannounced, show your driving licence (or, sometimes not at all), and take any of the myriad of "ordinary cars" that they will have to hand, for a test drive, that it makes straight reviews, on TV, of such cars almost meaningless.

    In addition there are now so many variants on any given model it is just not possible to give a sensible or comprehensive enough review, especially in a programme that is only on for twelve episodes, or so, per year. The world of motoring has moved on apace since the "old" Top Gear went its merry way and TV can't, or won't, keep up.

    There's nothing better than trying it yourself. Just about every review of the car I have made it out to be a hateful, dangerous, heap of crap but I just love it.

    What I would like to see is a genuine motoring consumer programme, aired with some regularity - once per month, 30 mins, would do. They could look at all aspects of motoring, not just cars in isolation, and pick up on matters that may be particularly topical.

    Just don't let Matt Alwright present it.

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    Posted by me_the_first (U1291324) on Wednesday, 3rd July 2013

    Not that I am saying that is what you meant, but it is so easy now, as an "average motorist" to just go into any dealership, unannounced, show your driving licence (or, sometimes not at all), and take any of the myriad of "ordinary cars" that they will have to hand, for a test drive, that it makes straight reviews, on TV, of such cars almost meaningless.

    In addition there are now so many variants on any given model it is just not possible to give a sensible or comprehensive enough review, especially in a programme that is only on for twelve episodes, or so, per year. The world of motoring has moved on apace since the "old" Top Gear went its merry way and TV can't, or won't, keep up. 


    Yeah... but... no... it may be what you as an average motorist can do, but as another average motorist, I haven't got the time to go round showroom after showroom trying out multiple variants.

    Actually, I don't have to. I buy Which? magazine and they do it. But I do happen to think there could be a place for a programme, not either/or but as well as Top Gear that will fill a gap.

    I'd like to think there's still a market for it. Maybe the old TG became a bit stuck and they embarked on a new formula which hit the mark, but now it's so far removed that you can view the two programmes quite independently and hopefully still get a decent audience for each.

    I know that usual suspects will want to bang on lyrically about how boring the old show was (just because it's easy to say it without being able to be challenged meaningfully) ... but there WERE decent enough audiences and as someone else said, would make a nice change from cookery. Sure, the likes of William Woollard & Tony Mason were of a time, but when it finished in the old format we had a number of those who went onto Fifth Gear and for me, it was still interesting as well as informative. At the time, it is said that it was regularly the most watched programme on BBC 2, even before the revamp.

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    Posted by SAB888 (U14777346) on Wednesday, 3rd July 2013

    Considering the number of people who drive, there is a pityful amount of motoring programmes on any of the main TV channels when compared to Property, Cooking, Antiques, Gardening, Reality, Soaps etc.

    There should be plenty of scope for other motoring programmes as well as Top Gear.

    Good first episode of the new series, but why did it start about 3 to 4 minutes early and still run for over an hour? BBC needs to get a new clock. smiley - smiley

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    Posted by z4mster (U14864348) on Wednesday, 3rd July 2013



    Yeah... but... no... it may be what you as an average motorist can do, but as another average motorist, I haven't got the time to go round showroom after showroom trying out multiple variants.

    Actually, I don't have to. I buy Which? magazine and they do it.  

    Well it's not what I do because I do not consider myself to be an average motorist. It is merely a response, as to what can be done, to just one, among many, reasons why they don't, generally, test "ordinary cars" on Top Gear now, which is, I reckon, a bigger moan than former Top Gear being described as boring.

    When original Top Gear was in its peak car ranges were very much smaller than they are now, which is why magazines, such as Which? and What Car excel at what they do - they have both the time and space, and are close to the launch of any variant of any car. They can cover it all very well.

    There are now more segments, more engine (power output) choices, more trim levels and you can have them all in all colours and all sizes. Nearly. I'm not saying, to be valid, a "serious" car show must review all the flavours, but even to cover a representative sample of just one model, would need to take up a whole show, or a large part of it, to have any relevance. Stick to Which? and just enjoy the car based entertainment show for what it is.

    Fifth Gear did start out as an earnest replacement for the old TG, but even that went downhill, rapidly, once they decided they needed to be more like their BBC 2 competitor...though Tiff Needel's enthusiasm is a joy to watch.

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    Posted by Prophet Tenebrae (U5995226) ** on Wednesday, 3rd July 2013

    I'm not really sure why people carp on about the need for a car magazine... I mean, they make those... pretty sure you could go to your local supermarket or newsagent and pick one off the shelf or if you're feeling really fancy use the interwebs!

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    Posted by Harvey Specter (U4307220) ** on Thursday, 4th July 2013

    I'm not really sure why people carp on about the need for a car magazine... I mean, they make those... pretty sure you could go to your local supermarket or newsagent and pick one off the shelf or if you're feeling really fancy use the interwebs!  Because they'd like to see it i guess.

    Much like everything else.

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    Posted by Prophet Tenebrae (U5995226) ** on Thursday, 4th July 2013

    I'm not really sure why people carp on about the need for a car magazine... I mean, they make those... pretty sure you could go to your local supermarket or newsagent and pick one off the shelf or if you're feeling really fancy use the interwebs!  Because they'd like to see it i guess.

    Much like everything else. 
    What's Fifth Gear then? Chopped liver?

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    Posted by SAB888 (U14777346) on Thursday, 4th July 2013

    I'm not really sure why people carp on about the need for a car magazine... I mean, they make those... pretty sure you could go to your local supermarket or newsagent and pick one off the shelf or if you're feeling really fancy use the interwebs!  Because they'd like to see it i guess.

    Much like everything else. 
    What's Fifth Gear then? Chopped liver? 
    Fifth Gear is a pale imitation of Top Gear and has disappeared onto a minor channel that many people don't have access to. There were some reviews of cars but, like Top Gear, it has short runs. Don't think I'd buy a car based on a review on a TV programme.

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    Posted by Prophet Tenebrae (U5995226) ** on Thursday, 4th July 2013

    I'm not really sure why people carp on about the need for a car magazine... I mean, they make those... pretty sure you could go to your local supermarket or newsagent and pick one off the shelf or if you're feeling really fancy use the interwebs!  Because they'd like to see it i guess.

    Much like everything else. 
    What's Fifth Gear then? Chopped liver? 
    Fifth Gear is a pale imitation of Top Gear and has disappeared onto a minor channel that many people don't have access to. There were some reviews of cars but, like Top Gear, it has short runs. Don't think I'd buy a car based on a review on a TV programme. 
    My point is - there IS a car magazine programme, so if people are bellyaching there isn't one, they're wrong.

    Whether it's good or not is another issue entirely.

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    Posted by SAB888 (U14777346) on Thursday, 4th July 2013

    I'm not really sure why people carp on about the need for a car magazine... I mean, they make those... pretty sure you could go to your local supermarket or newsagent and pick one off the shelf or if you're feeling really fancy use the interwebs!  Because they'd like to see it i guess.

    Much like everything else. 
    What's Fifth Gear then? Chopped liver? 
    Fifth Gear is a pale imitation of Top Gear and has disappeared onto a minor channel that many people don't have access to. There were some reviews of cars but, like Top Gear, it has short runs. Don't think I'd buy a car based on a review on a TV programme. 
    My point is - there IS a car magazine programme, so if people are bellyaching there isn't one, they're wrong.

    Whether it's good or not is another issue entirely. 
    Fifth Gear is on a channel with an average weekly viewing figure of 0.3% and not widely available to everyone. At least Top Gear is available to almost everyone in the UK. Of the mainstream channels, the only motoring programme I can think of is Top Gear, with a yearly figure of around 12 to 15 episodes, and that's it.

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    Posted by Prophet Tenebrae (U5995226) ** on Thursday, 4th July 2013

    If people feel a burning desire for something that isn't Top Gear, there's nothing to stop them getting Discovery Turbo and if they don't feel so inclined - then clearly they aren't that really that bothered.

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    Posted by Harvey Specter (U4307220) ** on Friday, 5th July 2013

    I'm not really sure why people carp on about the need for a car magazine... I mean, they make those... pretty sure you could go to your local supermarket or newsagent and pick one off the shelf or if you're feeling really fancy use the interwebs!  Because they'd like to see it i guess.

    Much like everything else. 
    What's Fifth Gear then? Chopped liver? 
    Is that now on the bbc?

    Hmm.

    And even then, they followed suit with inane commentaries and features that have nothing to do with reviewing cars.

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    Posted by Logans Run (U13830424) on Friday, 5th July 2013

    The BBC have an abundance of cookery progs, antique progs and gardening etc so why not have another motoring programme.I am sure TG fans would welcome it and it wouldn't be too expensive to produce. I don't get the posters who are saying that TG is the be all and end all, or are they just being obtuse for the sake of it? Yes, I know the answer.

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    Posted by Harvey Specter (U4307220) ** on Friday, 5th July 2013

    Yes, I know the answer. 

    Don't leave us all in suspense. smiley - grr

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    Posted by Dover Soul (U14934992) on Friday, 5th July 2013

    The gardeners complain there are not enough gardening programms.
    I don't watch antiques programmes so not sure how many there are, But if when you say cookery programms you include every programme involving food then surely motoring programmes include all programmes involving motors?
    F1, MotoGP, NASCAR, American Le Mans Series, Indycar Series, FIA World Touring Car Championship, Indianapolis Motor Speedway, FIA World Rally Championship..........

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