Posted by O Tempora O Mores (U14540735) on Saturday, 11th May 2013
This was an ambitious project - to fill a 90 minute slot with a documentary about eating and dancing rituals in the time of Jane Austen - and it mostly succeeded.
The scenario was fascinating and the preparations well worth watching, but during the ball itself, when the presenters commented on the significance of the interactions, they struggled to make best use of the time. So we appeared to have the same conversations about social ritual, repeated endlessly.
There were a number of other related topics which could have filled the time spent treading water, for example: what about the toilet arrangements? What number of servants were required to support the ball, and how was their time filled? what happened to the horses and cabs, and their drivers, during the event? What was the social follow up? (thank you letters, proposals of marriage, love letters, etc?) This would have filled the "spare"time more usefully.
But it was overall well worth watching.
Posted by meldrewsrevenge (U13159010) on Saturday, 11th May 2013
I wish it had been a programme about recreating a Jane Austen ball rather than what we got: a programme about some people who recreated a Jane Austen Ball. Their faces and prattle were everywhere, whereas the techniques and activities were quickly glossed over. But this is rather typical BBC.
Posted by meldrewsrevenge (U13159010) on Sunday, 12th May 2013
btw do you recall Barry Cryer's wonderful translation of Et In Arcadia Ego as I had an omelette down the shopping precinct
Posted by aviddiva (U13145965) on Sunday, 12th May 2013
Was anything shown from the Armstrong & Miller show?
I'm thinking of those dancing sequences and where Alexander Armstrong sings 'Horny' and 'Gay Bar'!
Posted by olderoses (U13772065) ** on Sunday, 12th May 2013
A great big ego trip for the presenters..a boring one for viewers......I'm an Austen fan and I really don;t care about all this trivia about balls.
Posted by Jacobite (U15040963) on Sunday, 12th May 2013
A great big ego trip for the presenters..a boring one for viewers......I'm an Austen fan and I really don;t care about all this trivia about balls. How -if you are an Austen fan-can you not be interested? You need to know the background to the novels to understand all the nuances of the novels.She expected all her readers to be aware of the way a ball was organised and run to be able to pick up things that were important because they differed from the norm. There are throwaway lines all through Austen novels which mean nothing in our day and age but to someone reading at the time they were written would have spoken volumes about the characters and their behaviour. I found it fascinating-Amanda Vickery is a great presenter. They made interesting points about the differences in dress and manners which help in the interpretation and enjoyment of the novels. Balls were among the most important occasions in a Regency calendar and if you love Austen the more you can understand -the better,
Posted by pc1973 (U13716600) on Monday, 13th May 2013
I did not think much to this show but I don't think I was it's target audience.
I noticed some of the dance students they used were black. Would there have been black people as guests at an 1813 ball?
They seemed to go out of their way to make the location, the food and the clothes as authentic as possible and I am just wandering if they were to PC to do the same with the cast.
I guess the Beeb might have got into trouble advertising for white dancers only.
This is not a racist post please don't take it as such.
Posted by Bouillaguet (U14312340) on Monday, 13th May 2013
I have to admit that thought crossed my mind as well.
Posted by olderoses (U13772065) ** on Monday, 13th May 2013
Two intellectuals talked in a very condescending manner to Austen readers as if we have no historical knowledge . Fans of Austen have made it their business to learn more about the life ,times and events of the period. I found it extremely irritating to have to listen/watch these two stretch this programme to justify their supposedly superior readership of Austen's work.
Posted by Lemon Sabotage (U9577550) on Tuesday, 14th May 2013
Re: the "toilet arrangements":
I read somewhere that many of the women would take some herbal diuretic on the morning of a ball (or the night before, I can't remember), in order to dehydrate themselves thus minimising the toilet-break requirements.
So, as well as being hot and exhausted, they would have had an uncomfortable thirst all evening.
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