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Maggie Thatcher - The Big Question

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    Posted by Jane Kent (U14867077) on Sunday, 14th April 2013

    I watched the Big Question this morning as usual on BBC1.

    First big question was about people "celebrating" the death of our Maggie.

    Not for the first time the BBC seems to have imported a whole studio, but one or two, of hateful, spiteful, resentful, and wholly unpleasant left wing radicals who held very personal vile feelings about Maggie who could not give one inch to their unforgiving barrage of highly insensitive thought. I am all for free speech of course, but this was no balanced, democratic debate with this "group" shouting down at every opportunity those few who tried to present the other side of the story in a balanced manner.

    Ironically they reflected exactly what Maggie took on after 1979: the left wing socialists who literally shouted down and bullied the opposition they faced in industry and the country at large, wanting everything their way, which the unions got under the Labour governments!

    It was appalling and the BBC should be ashamed. There was no respect given!

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    Posted by Turner (U14992668) on Sunday, 14th April 2013

    Did anybody make it past the 'our Maggie' bit? smiley - laugh

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    Posted by fox_at_moonlight (U15160069) on Sunday, 14th April 2013


    I didn't watch this programme this morning. I've only watched it once, quite some time ago, and didn't get through the whole hour purely because of the type of audience you describe, Jane.

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    Posted by brian spooner (U14259156) on Sunday, 14th April 2013

    Did anybody make it past the 'our Maggie' bit? smiley - laugh  Not me !!

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    Posted by MsA (U14389417) on Sunday, 14th April 2013

    Oops typo issue. I meant to type "abhorred" before anyone ticks me off!

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    Posted by BLZbubsbrother (U14287474) on Sunday, 14th April 2013

    Wow ....I came in thinking this was the BBC POV and it turns out it's the Daily Mail's letters page!!!

    Scary place

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    Posted by Prophet Tenebrae (U5995226) on Sunday, 14th April 2013

    Wow ....I came in thinking this was the BBC POV and it turns out it's the Daily Mail's letters page!!!

    Scary place  
    Quite. I find it amusing people are commenting on the way the debate was polarised before themselves complaining it wasn't polarised in a way that favoured their view.

    I think it demonstrates people have very little interest in analytical thinking - Maggie was either the second coming or she was the devil incarnate and if you think otherwise, then you're wrong and that's all there is to it.

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    Posted by Dover Soul (U14934992) on Sunday, 14th April 2013

    I don't think it's anything more than simply depending on whether a post is on topic or not.

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    Posted by counterblast (U14258320) on Sunday, 14th April 2013

    Yeah right.

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    Posted by thedogcody (U14659366) on Sunday, 14th April 2013

    All the right-wing ranters keep their posts - everyone else is modded. What does that tell us about POV?  You have the right to report a post if you feel it breaks the rules dont you?

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    Posted by Prophet Tenebrae (U5995226) on Monday, 15th April 2013

    Having watched the episode, I really have to say the Left didn't do themselves any favours, their only riposte to dancing upon Maggie's death seems to be that the Right is trying to canonise her... uh, not really. For obvious reasons, pretty much everyone acknowledges that what she did was divisive and controversial - it's hardly unmitigated praise and it's really a lot more in keeping with you'd expect when someone died.

    I notice an INCREDIBLE resistance to mere NOTION that Maggie hadn't closed the most mines - the very idea seemed to be anathema.

    Also, Nicky - as usual - was almost worst than ineffective. No attempts to get people to substantiate points - I think we had Maggie accused of everything from masterminding Hillsborough to being responsible for the state of the mines (the mines she closed?) and the current state of the health service...

    I think it's alright to have Nicky on when it's just the normal religious rent-a-mob but I think when it's more serious stuff, we should probably get someone else in... or better yet, don't unload serious topical questions onto a light weight show!

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    Posted by freddy naftel (U14961373) on Monday, 15th April 2013

    The BBC's attitude doesn't surprise me one bit.

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    Posted by Vizzer aka U_numbers (U2011621) on Monday, 15th April 2013

    Also, Nicky - as usual - was almost worst than ineffective. No attempts to get people to substantiate points - I think we had Maggie accused of everything from masterminding Hillsborough to being responsible for the state of the mines (the mines she closed?) and the current state of the health service... 
    Good point Prophet.

    One example was when Benjamin Zephaniah said "I couldn't walk the streets of London or Birmingham when Thatcher was around. She had a sus law. A law of suspicion which the police used ... I remember being stopped 4 times in one night and I said to the police officer 'How can you do this?' And he said 'This is what we've been told to do by Thatcher'. "

    Nobody in the program, however, saw fit to challenge this absurd caricaturisation of the past. The truth is (as is so often the case) the exact opposite. Section 4 of the Vagrancy Act 1824 (the 'suspect person' section) was actually repealed in 1981. In other words the 'sus law' which had existed in England & Wales for 157 years was abolished by the 1979 Parliament during Margaret Thatcher's first term in office.

    Benjamin might want to stick to poetry because his attempted foray into contemporary history as displayed on yesterday's program was quite simply woeful.

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    Posted by Tom Adustus (U9467814) on Monday, 15th April 2013

    I watched the Big Question this morning as usual on BBC1.

    First big question was about people "celebrating" the death of our Maggie.

    Not for the first time the BBC seems to have imported a whole studio, but one or two, of hateful, spiteful, resentful, and wholly unpleasant left wing radicals who held very personal vile feelings about Maggie who could not give one inch to their unforgiving barrage of highly insensitive thought. I am all for free speech of course, but this was no balanced, democratic debate with this "group" shouting down at every opportunity those few who tried to present the other side of the story in a balanced manner.

    Ironically they reflected exactly what Maggie took on after 1979: the left wing socialists who literally shouted down and bullied the opposition they faced in industry and the country at large, wanting everything their way, which the unions got under the Labour governments!

    It was appalling and the BBC should be ashamed. There was no respect given! 


    I agree that the BBC seem to have a very biased approach.

    We know from various polls, for example YouGove published just this weekend, that over 50% of the population rated Maggie Thatcher as the best PM in recent times. The number against was in the low 30%. And this result has been constant over the polls taken over the past week.

    The BBC cannot seem accept that for normal hardworking peoplm Mrs Thatcher was simply the greatest leader of the UK in modern times. All we get from the BBC is the constant anti-Thatcher myths and propaganda of the minority.

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    Posted by stirling (U13732738) on Monday, 15th April 2013

    All we get from the BBC is the constant anti-Thatcher myths and propaganda of the minority. 

    What utter tripe. There have been plenty of pro-Thatcher views expresssed on the BBC over the past few days as well as the dissenting views - take the blinkers off.

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    Posted by Prophet Tenebrae (U5995226) on Monday, 15th April 2013

    All we get from the BBC is the constant anti-Thatcher myths and propaganda of the minority. 

    What utter tripe. There have been plenty of pro-Thatcher views expresssed on the BBC over the past few days as well as the dissenting views - take the blinkers off. 
    Agreed.

    The Lefties are absolutely certain the BBC is trying to canonise Saint Thatcher, the Righties are absolutely certain the BBC is giving free reign to those dancing on her grave and calling her the anti-christ.

    The only thing I'm absolutely certain of is that there appears to be a global shortage of perspicacity and a great surfeit of blinkers.

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    Posted by TomcatRed (U8418886) on Monday, 15th April 2013

    All we get from the BBC is the constant anti-Thatcher myths and propaganda of the minority. 

    What utter tripe. There have been plenty of pro-Thatcher views expresssed on the BBC over the past few days as well as the dissenting views - take the blinkers off. 
    It does seem a strange POV doesn't it.

    Surely if the BBC was "anti-Thatcher" they would have rejoiced in playing "Ding Dong.....", in full, on the chart show on Sunday.

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    Posted by Hastur1 (U14272072) on Monday, 15th April 2013

    Bias?

    I presume you did not watch the pro Thatcher love in that was Question Time then and will not be watching the four or five hours (then highlights) of sycophantic admiration from DD on the funeral? Incidently if you want to bandy figures there is a signicant majority who do not want to a pay towards this.

    MT was obviously a strong leader and you are right compared to the recent crop she is likley to top any poll of PM's. However, as a hard working man, I also saw the divisive and disastrous consequences of her and her minister's policies on my city, that heaped misery on an awful lot of us. Indeed her view of Victorian values was to restore, the us and them of the old class system

    My view is that the BBC is treading the thin line of impartiality quite well at the moment, albeit swaying from side to side as they go along

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    Posted by Prophet Tenebrae (U5995226) on Monday, 15th April 2013

    My view is that the BBC is treading the thin line of impartiality quite well at the moment, albeit swaying from side to side as they go along 
    My opinion if the loons on both sides are screeching hysterically about how bias you are to the other side - chances are, you're doing a good job of being impartial.

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