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Brian Cox....this fellow needs help
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Message 1.
Posted by Patratzel (U12920917) on Friday, 22nd February 2013
'We all come from a bag of stuff'....well I personally would hate to have my Dad's testes and my Mum's egg described as such , but therein lies the point. Science is and will always be in a state of flux. Brian has been involved in a number of series where he gives a definitive answer on screen. Most of it ultimately depressing. Perhaps Brian had a bad experience, I live in a world where definitive answers cannot be given and that makes it worth living. I don't want moody sunsets , I don't want walks across dunes and certainly no more Cox on camera. I'd like to know what we don't kmow and mot what we believe we know.
Apart from that his sibilance gets on my nerves. -
Message 2
Posted by Valdimar the Unending (U15551013) on Friday, 22nd February 2013
He is actually very inspired by the science that he does, so he does not need to have been depressed, or had a bad experience. Why shouldn't he give definitive answers to some questions? There are many certainties in this world, they help us in our daily lives. The major uncertainties are to be found at the boundaries of science that we want to expand. You are asking for the impossible, we can only know what we know, or believe we know.
And, if you want to see what others have said on other points, there is this:
www.bbc.co.uk/dna/mb... -
Message 3
Posted by dayraven (U13717520) ** on Friday, 22nd February 2013
He is actually very inspired by the science that he does, so he does not need to have been depressed, or had a bad experience.
I did like Charlie Brooker's bit on this idea, though I have the impression Philomena Cunk's views are not meant to be taken as gospel.... -
Message 4
Posted by Prophet Tenebrae (U5995226) ** on Friday, 22nd February 2013
Science is and will always be in a state of flux.
That's such a nebulous statement, it's meaningless. If you mean that science will periodically change to accommodate new findings... that's true but that's a good thing.
Brian has been involved in a number of series where he gives a definitive answer on screen.
Because Brian Cox only fronts his travelogue/science show for those who like pretty pictures and bored housewives and so, it must pander to them by spoonfeeding... talking in non-definitive terms would muddy the waters for people whose interest in the subject will likely evaporate before the credits even begin to roll.
Most of it ultimately depressing.
That's an extremely subjective view. -
Message 5
Posted by Patratzel (U12920917) on Friday, 22nd February 2013
Well done Vlad you answered my question.. I want answers to the impossible. Matters that are beyond 'understanding' I am of the curious band of people who believe that mystery exists. To fixate upon current thought is both dangerous and unproductive. People like Cox lead us to believe that there is a full stop to all existence. I believe it is a comma.
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Message 6
Posted by Prophet Tenebrae (U5995226) ** on Friday, 22nd February 2013
People like Cox lead us to believe that there is a full stop to all existence. I believe it is a comma.
You mean scientists who rely on things like data and reproducible results to create models that predict the universe? Yeah, what the hell do they know... I mean other than modern medicine, electricity, electronics, water purification, chemical fertilisers...
I can see why you'd want to write them off. After all, what did science ever do for us? -
Message 7
Posted by Johnbee (U542312) on Friday, 22nd February 2013
OP, you like to hear about what we don't know? Plenty of people do not like science precisely because their beliefs are not in accordance with the facts.
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Message 8
Posted by Onslow The Cat (U13672446) on Friday, 22nd February 2013
Brian has been involved in a number of series where he gives a definitive answer on screen. Most of it ultimately depressing
You mean he says we are all going to die
I don't see this programme quite as demoralising as you. It describes the state of things and I don't see why it should do so in happy go lucky terms. Leave that to the One Show.
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Message 9
Posted by QE (U15612083) on Saturday, 23rd February 2013
Brian has been involved in a number of series where he gives a definitive answer on screen. Most of it ultimately depressing. Perhaps Brian had a bad experience, I live in a world where definitive answers cannot be given and that makes it worth living. We all live in the same world although perhaps we see it from different angles.
We don't have definitive answers but the fact that we can understand so much about the universe through observation, experiment and the application of our intelligence should inspire everyone.
You might consider science to be "unweaving the rainbow" and destroying its magic but you'd be wrong. By looking deeply into the rainbow we can quite literally understand how stars function and how atoms are built - but the rainbow still exists.
Tomorrow's episode explores how close we are to discovering whether life exists on Earth-like planets around other stars. This would arguably be the most significant scientific discovery ever. How you can say "depressing" is beyond me! -
Message 10
Posted by zelda (U2012536) on Saturday, 23rd February 2013
He is actually very inspired by the science that he does, so he does not need to have been depressed, or had a bad experience.
I did like Charlie Brooker's bit on this idea, though I have the impression Philomena Cunk's views are not meant to be taken as gospel....
Nooooo..... Philomena Cunk is a genius. -
Message 11
Posted by Prophet Tenebrae (U5995226) ** on Saturday, 23rd February 2013
I don't see this programme quite as demoralising as you. It describes the state of things and I don't see why it should do so in happy go lucky terms. Leave that to the One Show.
Ha, I'd have thought if you wanted your will to live eroded The One Show would be exactly what you'd watch! -
Message 12
Posted by Essential Rabbit (U3613943) on Sunday, 24th February 2013
I live in a world where definitive answers cannot be given and that makes it worth living
Odd then that you use a medium of communication which has developed because some scientists took some answers to be definitive.
Should you not rather be scratching your message on a piece of slate and taking it around to show people? -
Message 13
Posted by Valdimar the Unending (U15551013) on Sunday, 24th February 2013
No, because he cannot be certain that it would exist from one moment to the next.
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Message 14
Posted by LoopyLobes (U14384399) on Sunday, 24th February 2013
MORE Cox, I say!
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Message 15
Posted by caissier (U14073060) ** on Sunday, 24th February 2013
He is actually very inspired by the science that he does, so he does not need to have been depressed, or had a bad experience.
I did like Charlie Brooker's bit on this idea, though I have the impression Philomena Cunk's views are not meant to be taken as gospel....
Nooooo..... Philomena Cunk is a genius. She should be on Question Time. -
Message 16
Posted by zelda (U2012536) on Sunday, 24th February 2013
He is actually very inspired by the science that he does, so he does not need to have been depressed, or had a bad experience.
I did like Charlie Brooker's bit on this idea, though I have the impression Philomena Cunk's views are not meant to be taken as gospel....
Nooooo..... Philomena Cunk is a genius. She should be on Question Time.
Philomena Cunk - Influential tweetist Computer typist.
She's more than qualified. -
Message 17
Posted by minimetto (U1159894) on Sunday, 24th February 2013
MORE Cox, I say!
God NO!! I cannot stand this fellow and or the way in which he seems to be constantly on our screens (or our radios). I have been a keen science fan since school days and enjoy all science orientated programmes but Cox...?? Definately NO!!! -
Message 18
Posted by CroydonGeorge (U13905620) on Sunday, 24th February 2013
MORE Cox, I say!
God NO!! I cannot stand this fellow and or the way in which he seems to be constantly on our screens (or our radios). I have been a keen science fan since school days and enjoy all science orientated programmes but Cox...?? Definately NO!!! It's DEFINITELY ... -
Message 19
Posted by Buttey (U14563284) on Sunday, 24th February 2013
Well done Vlad you answered my question.. I want answers to the impossible. Matters that are beyond 'understanding' I am of the curious band of people who believe that mystery exists. To fixate upon current thought is both dangerous and unproductive. People like Cox lead us to believe that there is a full stop to all existence. I believe it is a comma.
You want answers to the impossible? Just think for a second about that statement and how absolutely meaningless it is. You're curious and believe mystery exists. Well, what do you think motivates scientists ... Yes that's it, curiosity. However, unlike you we go out and produce testable models for how the world works based on evidence and a robust method. What scientists don't do is spout on about believing in mystery and witless woo-woo like that.
As for fixating on current thought, think upon Newton's famous quote "If I have seen further it is by standing on the sholders of Giants". In other words to consider current thought is essential to progress our understanding of the world. -
Message 20
Posted by CroydonGeorge (U13905620) on Sunday, 24th February 2013
Well done Vlad you answered my question.. I want answers to the impossible. Matters that are beyond 'understanding' I am of the curious band of people who believe that mystery exists. To fixate upon current thought is both dangerous and unproductive. People like Cox lead us to believe that there is a full stop to all existence. I believe it is a comma.
You want answers to the impossible? Just think for a second about that statement and how absolutely meaningless it is. You're curious and believe mystery exists. Well, what do you think motivates scientists ... Yes that's it, curiosity. However, unlike you we go out and produce testable models for how the world works based on evidence and a robust method. What scientists don't do is spout on about believing in mystery and witless woo-woo like that.
As for fixating on current thought, think upon Newton's famous quote "If I have seen further it is by standing on the sholders of Giants". In other words to consider current thought is essential to progress our understanding of the world. Abso-ruddy-lutely!
It's OK for all the mumbo-jumbo merchants to cling to age-old mysteries, legends, religions and similar hand-me-down beliefs if that's what makes them happy and content. Each to his/her own. But please try to see sense now and then, eh what. -
Message 21
Posted by zencat (U14877400) on Sunday, 24th February 2013
Just watched tonight's episode, which might be a repeat, and he did an excellent job of getting across a lot of info and making a lot of sense. More power to his elbow. Kids today watching this are very lucky to have such a personable presenter, one with such an excellent set of gnashers.
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Message 22
Posted by Buttey (U14563284) on Sunday, 24th February 2013
Just watched tonight's episode, which might be a repeat, and he did an excellent job of getting across a lot of info and making a lot of sense. More power to his elbow. Kids today watching this are very lucky to have such a personable presenter, one with such an excellent set of gnashers.
I like the way the programme attempts to bring together a cross disciplinary approach to the subject. Biology, but as a product of chemistry, physics and geology - which, of course, it is. in fact that's why the last person you'd want to present it is a biologist. Sometimes it's a bit compressed, but overall one of the best science progs the BBC has produced in a while. -
Message 23
Posted by minimetto (U1159894) on Monday, 25th February 2013
MORE Cox, I say!
God NO!! I cannot stand this fellow and or the way in which he seems to be constantly on our screens (or our radios). I have been a keen science fan since school days and enjoy all science orientated programmes but Cox...?? Definately NO!!! It's DEFINITELY ...
...absolutely!!
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