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Pennies From Heaven - please repeat!!!

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    Posted by Tez (U15624244) on Wednesday, 20th February 2013

    In this age when every programme from the 70's seems to be on a permanent repeat 'loop' on some digital channel or other, I can't understand why that fine Dennis Potter drama - Pennies From Heaven - is never repeated?

    It's the programme that gave Bob Hoskins his big break, and still remains quite unique in the style and manner it was made. The music of the era is fantastic.

    Does anyone know if there are any plans to repeat it?

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    Posted by Iloveknitting (U15553177) on Thursday, 21st February 2013

    In this age when every programme from the 70's seems to be on a permanent repeat 'loop' on some digital channel or other, I can't understand why that fine Dennis Potter drama - Pennies From Heaven - is never repeated?

    It's the programme that gave Bob Hoskins his big break, and still remains quite unique in the style and manner it was made. The music of the era is fantastic.

    Does anyone know if there are any plans to repeat it? 
    It seems to be a theme on these pages that many many requests are made for repeats of good programmes that the BBC has in its vaults.
    However, we never get ANYTHING we ask for!??
    They can't ALL be under restrictions of repeat fee paying etc. There must be some available for us to see again.
    Again, a case of very LAZY programme choices by the BBC. i.e. endless repeats of Only Fools and Horses, much easier to constantly repeat than actually giving us what we might WANT to see again.
    When is someone at the BBC going to take charge and look into this query (and answer it!)?
    It keeps coming up again and again.

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    Posted by average40 (U14458923) on Thursday, 21st February 2013

    Every? Really? I can think of plenty of good ones that are not.

    The Brothers
    Colditz
    Onedin Line
    Telfords Change
    Who Pays the Ferryman
    Softly Softly
    Shoestring

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    Posted by average40 (U14458923) on Thursday, 21st February 2013

    Surely Bob Hoskins big break was in On The Move?

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    Posted by Peta (U24) on Thursday, 21st February 2013

    In this age when every programme from the 70's seems to be on a permanent repeat 'loop' on some digital channel or other, I can't understand why that fine Dennis Potter drama - Pennies From Heaven - is never repeated?

    It's the programme that gave Bob Hoskins his big break, and still remains quite unique in the style and manner it was made. The music of the era is fantastic.

    Does anyone know if there are any plans to repeat it? 
    It seems to be a theme on these pages that many many requests are made for repeats of good programmes that the BBC has in its vaults.
    However, we never get ANYTHING we ask for!??
    They can't ALL be under restrictions of repeat fee paying etc. There must be some available for us to see again.
    Again, a case of very LAZY programme choices by the BBC. i.e. endless repeats of Only Fools and Horses, much easier to constantly repeat than actually giving us what we might WANT to see again.
    When is someone at the BBC going to take charge and look into this query (and answer it!)?
    It keeps coming up again and again. 

    Hi Iloveknitting

    This topic has already been covered by the programme here

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    It's very likely that it has also been covered before the programme and will be again in the future!

    If you'd like to see it be discussed in the next programme, then you might like to contact the Production Team directly? The contact details for post and email are given here
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    The production team have been disbanded while the series is off the air, but they'll sift through all the emails received when they reform, before the next series starts.



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    Posted by dayraven (U13717520) on Thursday, 21st February 2013

    I can think of plenty of good ones that are not. 
    Is it just the channels I look at, or do are comedies more likely to be repeated than dramas?

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    Posted by Johnnie (U14424761) on Thursday, 21st February 2013

    Strongly agree. Pennies from Heaven was a smashing programme. Super songs.

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    Posted by GrouchoM (U14261501) on Thursday, 21st February 2013

    All Quiet on the Preston Front (ie series 1) - never seen this repeated.

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    Posted by Phil-ap (U13637313) on Thursday, 21st February 2013

    In this age when every programme from the 70's seems to be on a permanent repeat 'loop' on some digital channel or other, I can't understand why that fine Dennis Potter drama - Pennies From Heaven - is never repeated?

    It's the programme that gave Bob Hoskins his big break, and still remains quite unique in the style and manner it was made. The music of the era is fantastic.

    Does anyone know if there are any plans to repeat it? 
    There seems to be a misconception that these progammes are just lying around in the basement of TV Centre ready to be dusted off and shown. In fact the rights are owned by other people and the BBC had to pay a large fee to the estate of Dennis Potter to be able to show The Singing Detective. I actually prefer Pennies From Heaven which is why I bought the DVD some years ago.

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    Posted by average40 (U14458923) on Thursday, 21st February 2013

    I'll think you'll find that rights owned by other people like Dennis Potter's estate is the exception rather than the rule.

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    Posted by Phil-ap (U13637313) on Thursday, 21st February 2013

    I'll think you'll find that rights owned by other people like Dennis Potter's estate is the exception rather than the rule.   I bow to your superior knowledge on that one but surely repeat fees have to be paid to the actors and others who made the progammes.

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    Posted by average40 (U14458923) on Thursday, 21st February 2013

    Well that depends on their contracts and many would be dead by now. Also don't forget these programmes were made by the BBC and so the production staff were employees and not entiltled to anything apart from their salaries.. Not like today where the BBC buy most of their programmes from private production companies.

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    Posted by Iloveknitting (U15553177) on Thursday, 21st February 2013

    In this age when every programme from the 70's seems to be on a permanent repeat 'loop' on some digital channel or other, I can't understand why that fine Dennis Potter drama - Pennies From Heaven - is never repeated?

    It's the programme that gave Bob Hoskins his big break, and still remains quite unique in the style and manner it was made. The music of the era is fantastic.

    Does anyone know if there are any plans to repeat it? 
    It seems to be a theme on these pages that many many requests are made for repeats of good programmes that the BBC has in its vaults.
    However, we never get ANYTHING we ask for!??
    They can't ALL be under restrictions of repeat fee paying etc. There must be some available for us to see again.
    Again, a case of very LAZY programme choices by the BBC. i.e. endless repeats of Only Fools and Horses, much easier to constantly repeat than actually giving us what we might WANT to see again.
    When is someone at the BBC going to take charge and look into this query (and answer it!)?
    It keeps coming up again and again. 

    Hi Iloveknitting

    This topic has already been covered by the programme here

    www.bbc.co.uk/progra...

    It's very likely that it has also been covered before the programme and will be again in the future!

    If you'd like to see it be discussed in the next programme, then you might like to contact the Production Team directly? The contact details for post and email are given here
    www.bbc.co.uk/progra...

    The production team have been disbanded while the series is off the air, but they'll sift through all the emails received when they reform, before the next series starts.



    You can watch clips and extracts from the programme here:

    Extra features
    www.bbc.co.uk/progra...

    Clips
    www.bbc.co.uk/progra...

     
    Thank you for your reply Peta. I clicked on your link and watched John Taylor, a viewer voicing EXACTLY what is being said on these pages.
    That was broadcast on Points of View (not sure when) and STILL, NOTHING IS DONE ABOUT THESE REPEATS?

    It is of no use having a page for people to voice their opinions and even a channel programme such as Points of View when it is on the TV if STILL what the licence fee paying public want is ignored.

    Otherwise these pages are just a chatting shop about what is on TV and any suggestions by the public for a better TV channel (and what WE want to see in it)are ignored.

    What is the point of directly approaching the production teams? Why cannot they be given lists of what WE would like to change from these message boards as suggestions? They could have a link on these pages that we post directly to and we receive replies from.

    At least then the BBC would be seen to replying to us and not ignoring us.

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    Posted by Phil-ap (U13637313) on Thursday, 21st February 2013

    I think it has to be recognised that the audience for these potential repeats would be very small. I wouldn't want to see any of the ones mentioned except perhaps Pennies From Heaven and I am sure the younger generation wouldn't given that in most cases production values are not up to modern standards. It would therefore be difficult to justify the expense of reshowing them. Best plan is to get hold of the DVD.

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    Posted by thedogcody (U14659366) on Thursday, 21st February 2013

    Once again you are missing the point and over emphasising the importance of opinions on this board

    It is just a place to air views-you seem you think it represents the whole viewing public -by the use of the word WE-it is you and a few others in a country of 60 million-say 30 million tv viewers so is not representative

    So you want to impose your wishes on others-who for all you know are quite happy-but decide not to share their contentment

    People are swift to complain-but the complacent or even satisfied seldom say so.

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    Posted by Al (U1158256) on Thursday, 21st February 2013

    Every? Really? I can think of plenty of good ones that are not.

    The Brothers
    Colditz
    Onedin Line
    Telfords Change
    Who Pays the Ferryman
    Softly Softly
    Shoestring 


    Colditz did get a showing a few years ago - I think it was on Yesterday channel - so it might turn up again.

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    Posted by purwil (U14677803) on Thursday, 21st February 2013

    Every? Really? I can think of plenty of good ones that are not.

    The Brothers
    Colditz
    Onedin Line
    Telfords Change
    Who Pays the Ferryman
    Softly Softly
    Shoestring 


    Colditz did get a showing a few years ago - I think it was on Yesterday channel - so it might turn up again. 
    Colditz is shown twice daily on Yesterday at the moment.

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    Posted by Johnbee (U542312) on Thursday, 21st February 2013

    OP, the fact is that Pennies From Heaven was shown not long ago, and my son and daughter watched it with us (they were too young when it was first shown).

    It was indeed well worth seeing again. Obviously you missed it (it was of course on BBC4) and the lesson is that you have to watch out for things you will like. These days there are a lot of channels. You can not expect such a series to be shown on the main BBC channels these days, because things have changed and channels have target audiences.
    They also showed The Singing Detective recently, and that one I was doubtful about originally, but on watching the repeat I loved it. So make sure you watch the schedules for the 'arty' channels and do not rely on publicity.

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    Posted by Iloveknitting (U15553177) on Saturday, 23rd February 2013

    Once again you are missing the point and over emphasising the importance of opinions on this board

    It is just a place to air views-you seem you think it represents the whole viewing public -by the use of the word WE-it is you and a few others in a country of 60 million-say 30 million tv viewers so is not representative

    So you want to impose your wishes on others-who for all you know are quite happy-but decide not to share their contentment

    People are swift to complain-but the complacent or even satisfied seldom say so.
     
    Thank you for your reply Cody.
    The use of 'we' just means to me that people other than myself are also expressing views on these pages that they would like to see programmes apart from the repeated to death OFAH.
    I am not voiving my opinion saying that everone else agrees with me just using 'we' as meaning more than myself.
    The BBC are publically funded by us.
    Surely it is not too much to ask to suggest some alternatives from their vast archive?
    I do not think it is too much to ask either to get receive a reply whether for myself or others asking why we cannot have programmes rebroadcast.

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    Posted by Hampton Owl (U12068729) on Saturday, 23rd February 2013

    Who can forget the young Cheryl Cambell showing her attributes to Bob Hoskins.Even now I break out in to a sweat.

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    Posted by Monty Burns (U7868864) on Saturday, 23rd February 2013

    Colditz did get a showing a few years ago - I think it was on Yesterday channel - so it might turn up again.
    Colditz is shown twice daily on Yesterday at the moment.
     


    They also recently showed the whole Onedin Line series. We are currently watching Bergerac which I've never previously seen. It does seem that many BBC shows are sold off to lesser channels rather than being given a mainstream repeat.
    A few weeks ago we watched every episode of Clocking Off on CBS Drama(Sky 149) and they are currently showing Playing The Field, including series 5 which has never been released on DVD. Any of these would be acceptable for say BBC 2 or 4 to show and surely classic BBC fayre would be an improvement on current daytime scheduling. Can there really be anybody who hasn't seen Only Fools and Horses?

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    Posted by thedogcody (U14659366) on Saturday, 23rd February 2013

    Once again you are missing the point and over emphasising the importance of opinions on this board

    It is just a place to air views-you seem you think it represents the whole viewing public -by the use of the word WE-it is you and a few others in a country of 60 million-say 30 million tv viewers so is not representative

    So you want to impose your wishes on others-who for all you know are quite happy-but decide not to share their contentment

    People are swift to complain-but the complacent or even satisfied seldom say so.
     
    Thank you for your reply Cody.
    The use of 'we' just means to me that people other than myself are also expressing views on these pages that they would like to see programmes apart from the repeated to death OFAH.
    I am not voiving my opinion saying that everone else agrees with me just using 'we' as meaning more than myself.
    The BBC are publically funded by us.
    Surely it is not too much to ask to suggest some alternatives from their vast archive?
    I do not think it is too much to ask either to get receive a reply whether for myself or others asking why we cannot have programmes rebroadcast.
     
    Peta has replied

    Honestly-that is all you are going to get-as far as a response from inside the BBC goes on this board

    Your only other option is to contact them directly

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    Posted by caissier (U14073060) on Saturday, 23rd February 2013

    I cannot understand the idea of spending millions on fantastic productions and then just showing them once - as was - or repeated only a few times. It doesn't happen with films .... what's the difference?

    Musicians and authors get royalties for their work over time; why not those involved in tv work? It's got to be cheaper than making new programmes .... ? ..... though making new material does fund the current generation ...... which is good.

    I particularly remember Days of Hope about the post-WWI period, I think - Paul Copley was in it - ordered to be destroyed after one transmission because was 'political'.

    It was great seeing the GF Newman Law and Order a while ago - also controversial ...... and, like the wondrous Pennies From Heaven, BBC-Old School.

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    Posted by purwil (U14677803) on Saturday, 23rd February 2013

    I cannot understand the idea of spending millions on fantastic productions and then just showing them once - as was - or repeated only a few times. It doesn't happen with films .... what's the difference?

    Musicians and authors get royalties for their work over time; why not those involved in tv work? It's got to be cheaper than making new programmes .... ? ..... though making new material does fund the current generation ...... which is good.

    I particularly remember Days of Hope about the post-WWI period, I think - Paul Copley was in it - ordered to be destroyed after one transmission because was 'political'.

    It was great seeing the GF Newman Law and Order a while ago - also controversial ...... and, like the wondrous Pennies From Heaven, BBC-Old School. 
    Days of Hope is on this BBC Ken Loach collection. www.amazon.co.uk/Ken...

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    Posted by caissier (U14073060) on Saturday, 23rd February 2013

    Oh, good. I read a long time ago that it had been destroyed after one transmission..

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    Posted by Phil-ap (U13637313) on Saturday, 23rd February 2013

    Colditz did get a showing a few years ago - I think it was on Yesterday channel - so it might turn up again.
    Colditz is shown twice daily on Yesterday at the moment.
     


    They also recently showed the whole Onedin Line series. We are currently watching Bergerac which I've never previously seen. It does seem that many BBC shows are sold off to lesser channels rather than being given a mainstream repeat.
    A few weeks ago we watched every episode of Clocking Off on CBS Drama(Sky 149) and they are currently showing Playing The Field, including series 5 which has never been released on DVD. Any of these would be acceptable for say BBC 2 or 4 to show and surely classic BBC fayre would be an improvement on current daytime scheduling. Can there really be anybody who hasn't seen Only Fools and Horses? 
    Does it matter what channel these progammes are shown on as long as they are shown. People generally prefer new programming and complain about repeats.

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    Posted by romeDexter (U13797654) on Saturday, 23rd February 2013

    I recorded many good programmes on BBC. Dennis Potter's Pennies from Heaven, The singing detective and from channel 4 Lipstick on your collar. One I would like to see again, but I am now going back to the fifties was How Many Miles to Babylon- a superb and well acted play. Also a pin to see the peep Show The BBC archives must be full of golden greats I now have a library of BBC programmes, comedy,drama and documentaries I would also mention Laurel and Hardy films which are not shown now. My kids and grandchildren loved 'em
    but the little one did burst into tears when Olly fell from a window into a water butt
    of ice

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    Posted by Monty Burns (U7868864) on Saturday, 23rd February 2013

    People generally prefer new programming and complain about repeats.
     


    I suspect most complaints about repeats are programmes re-shown after only a few months. The ones I mentioned such as The Onedin Line, Bergerac, Clocking Off, Playing The Field, House Of Elliot and When The Boat Comes In are all at least 10-15 years old and I for one never saw any of them the first time around. Daytime TV on the Beeb is in general appalling and even the crappy antiques and property shows are now repeats

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    Posted by madmickmacmad (U15580876) on Sunday, 10th March 2013

    I agree.

    A classic serial that would be most welcome today ,even as a repeat.

    The previous post also mentioned When The Boat Comes In which is another drama I cant quite recall from my childhood.

    Would love to see these repeated.

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