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    Posted by the cycling gardener (U2350416) on Friday, 1st February 2013

    Monty has tweeted this morning that "the BBC have elected not to promote or publicise French Gardens in any way". Any future series depends on viewing figures. He goes further, explaining that "all publicity has been done - brilliantly- independently of the BBC despite the fact it is a BBC programme we are promoting".

    Why BBC? This promises to be a fabulous programme. If it's anything like his previous series on Italian gardens it will be filled with visual beauty and intelligent narrative, of interest to gardeners and non-gardeners alike - anyone with an interest in history, architecture, art and in this instance, France.

    Posters on this board have complained that Michael Portilo's superb Great British Railway Journeys also suffered through lack of publicity. Fans of the series had to use their skills of detection to locate the new one in the schedules.

    Yet - we are bombarded with trailers for rubbish and programmes that have proved very successful in the past - programmes that shouldn't need endless plugging. Where is the logic?

    www.dailymail.co.uk/...

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    Posted by brian spooner (U14259156) on Friday, 1st February 2013

    When I saw tis advertised I thought Oh good the gardens of ordinary Frenchmen. But No it's the big rich gardens again !!

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    Posted by thedogcody (U14659366) ** on Friday, 1st February 2013

    Odd-he was on Breakfast this morning promoting it-I would expect he will pop up somewhere during the day

    I wonder is he still miffed over the dispute with the BBC over organic/chemical cure for lily beetle?

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    Posted by Pat Shed (U4664057) on Friday, 1st February 2013

    the BBC have elected not to promote or publicise French Gardens in any way 

    That seems a strange claim, given that the BBC have given the programme its own webpage:

    www.bbc.co.uk/progra...

    with further pages advertising upcoming episodes well in advance:

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    and with a page showing a preview of the programme:

    www.bbc.co.uk/progra...

    and given also that they were heavily plugging the programme on the One Show on Tuesday and Wednesday this week including giving Mr Don a platform to tell everyone how brilliant it all is and showing clips from it:

    www.bbc.co.uk/iplaye...

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    Posted by Bouillaguet (U14312340) on Friday, 1st February 2013

    When I saw tis advertised I thought Oh good the gardens of ordinary Frenchmen. But No it's the big rich gardens again !!  I saw a clip where he's talking to a lady with an allotment in Paris, so perhaps you shouldn't judge too soon.

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    Posted by the_cleaner (U3423083) ** on Friday, 1st February 2013

    Monty has tweeted this morning that "the BBC have elected not to promote or publicise French Gardens in any way". Any future series depends on viewing figures. He goes further, explaining that "all publicity has been done - brilliantly- independently of the BBC despite the fact it is a BBC programme we are promoting".

    Why BBC? This promises to be a fabulous programme. If it's anything like his previous series on Italian gardens it will be filled with visual beauty and intelligent narrative, of interest to gardeners and non-gardeners alike - anyone with an interest in history, architecture, art and in this instance, France.

    Posters on this board have complained that Michael Portilo's superb Great British Railway Journeys also suffered through lack of publicity. Fans of the series had to use their skills of detection to locate the new one in the schedules.

    Yet - we are bombarded with trailers for rubbish and programmes that have proved very successful in the past - programmes that shouldn't need endless plugging. Where is the logic?

    www.dailymail.co.uk/... 
    Monty's been all over the place promoting this, I've seen trailers too, and as for Great British Railway Journeys, always on the first five weeks of the year, 6.30pm BBC2...not really hard to find.

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    Posted by pedrokelly (U1360661) on Friday, 1st February 2013

    I also saw him on The One Show earlier this week.

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    Posted by technologist (U1259929) ** on Friday, 1st February 2013

    "all publicity has been done - brilliantly- independently of the BBC despite the fact it is a BBC programme we are promoting".  

    Other have pointed out the publicity that the BBC has done - but as a matter of fact this is NOT a BBC production - it is made by Lion Television www.liontv.com/Scotl...
    in Scotland....

    IF only the BBC could get a story like this to the DM so that more people will be aware of the programme!!!!!

    Actually the BBC has so many gems of programmes across its channels that it is rather difficult to promote them all - as there is only about 40secs every programme junction to do so!

    that is where we need ways of recommendation

    - whether this is a posting on this (and other) boards
    -or using the recommendation engine which is on the BBC website programme pages
    - or by the Tivo type of recommendation from what you have viewed.....
    or ......

    Or read all about it in the Printed media - like the DM !!!!!!!

    Cross media promotion on BBC emitted outputs is limited (and regulated) - and gets complaints - I do not know if "french gardens" was trailed after GQT on Radio 4 ....

    At a technical level - coding for TV sub genres in the Listing Meta-data is not well developed .. and it needs to be International recognised...... so where do we put cricket ..... "non contact Ball games"" is how Radio defines it!"



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    Posted by thedogcody (U14659366) ** on Friday, 1st February 2013

    So someone who complains of no publicity has had publicity,AND has had publicity because of the complaint over no publicity

    I would call that job done to the marketing company smiley - whistle

    smiley - laugh

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    Posted by the_cleaner (U3423083) ** on Friday, 1st February 2013

    "all publicity has been done - brilliantly- independently of the BBC despite the fact it is a BBC programme we are promoting".  

    Other have pointed out the publicity that the BBC has done - but as a matter of fact this is NOT a BBC production - it is made by Lion Television www.liontv.com/Scotl...
    in Scotland....

    IF only the BBC could get a story like this to the DM so that more people will be aware of the programme!!!!!

    Actually the BBC has so many gems of programmes across its channels that it is rather difficult to promote them all - as there is only about 40secs every programme junction to do so!

    that is where we need ways of recommendation

    - whether this is a posting on this (and other) boards
    -or using the recommendation engine which is on the BBC website programme pages
    - or by the Tivo type of recommendation from what you have viewed.....
    or ......

    Or read all about it in the Printed media - like the DM !!!!!!!

    Cross media promotion on BBC emitted outputs is limited (and regulated) - and gets complaints - I do not know if "french gardens" was trailed after GQT on Radio 4 ....

    At a technical level - coding for TV sub genres in the Listing Meta-data is not well developed .. and it needs to be International recognised...... so where do we put cricket ..... "non contact Ball games"" is how Radio defines it!"



     
    "Actually the BBC has so many gems of programmes across its channels that it is rather difficult to promote them all - as there is only about 40secs every programme junction to do so! "

    BBC4 send me an E-mail every week, telling me their highlights for that week.smiley - cool

    I get the Radio Times too {other listing mags are available from all good/bad newsagents}....which helps.

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    Posted by the cycling gardener (U2350416) on Friday, 1st February 2013

    Monty's been all over the place promoting this, I've seen trailers too, and as for Great British Railway Journeys, always on the first five weeks of the year, 6.30pm BBC2...not really hard to find. 

    Hi the_cleaner.

    Monty tweets that appearances on a BBC show have to be organised separately. Nothing to do with BBC publicity. The recent newspaper articles and TV appearances are down to a freelance promoter paid for by the production company.

    This is interesting. I've been under the misguided impression that the BBC organise promotional material and appearances for programmes shown on their channels and that they do so to get better ratings.

    My parents missed week one of GBRJ by the way. They hadn’t connected January with Portillo.

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    Posted by lucy (U14792533) on Friday, 1st February 2013

    When I saw tis advertised I thought Oh good the gardens of ordinary Frenchmen. But No it's the big rich gardens again !!  I'm not enjoying this at all. Too much grandeur, too much French with subtitles, too much history, and far too long. His Italian gardens programmes were more interesting. I just feel as though I am watching a travelogue of his freebee to France with a CV2 thrown in for good measure.
    Carol Klein's programme immediately preceding this was much more watchable.
    I like Monty on gardeners' world but in this he's coming across as a history teacher rather than a plantsman and I never did get along with history, not even British history!

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    Posted by the_cleaner (U3423083) ** on Saturday, 2nd February 2013

    Monty's been all over the place promoting this, I've seen trailers too, and as for Great British Railway Journeys, always on the first five weeks of the year, 6.30pm BBC2...not really hard to find. 

    Hi the_cleaner.

    Monty tweets that appearances on a BBC show have to be organised separately. Nothing to do with BBC publicity. The recent newspaper articles and TV appearances are down to a freelance promoter paid for by the production company.

    This is interesting. I've been under the misguided impression that the BBC organise promotional material and appearances for programmes shown on their channels and that they do so to get better ratings.

    My parents missed week one of GBRJ by the way. They hadn’t connected January with Portillo.
     
    I'm guessing that has always been the case.....But Monty still has been all over the BEEB this past week, promoting the series......



    Which the opener last night, was very good....enjoyed every minute of it, even the subtitles...it is French Gardens.smiley - doh

    2CV....smiley - ok

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    Posted by LadyAlice (U2796582) on Saturday, 2nd February 2013


    Marvellous programe - entertaining, informative, ravishingly beautiful - I even liked the BGM! Looking forward to the rest of the series.
    The only distraction was noticing which sequences were filmed when Monty actually visited (mostly in the rain, poor chap) and those - of the same location - which were presumably library shots (in lovely sunny weather)..
    Now I want to visit the gardens themselves...
    smiley - biggrin


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    Posted by Pancho Wilkins (U1158194) ** on Saturday, 2nd February 2013

    Great programme. I found Courances more inviting for its grassed over paths. My favourite was the Hermes Paris rooftop garden. SIze isn't everything.

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    Posted by Lowena (U14575314) on Saturday, 2nd February 2013

    I didn't enjoy it at all and switched off half way through. MD is too self regarding for me.

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    Posted by Annie-Lou (U4502268) ** on Saturday, 2nd February 2013

    Absolutely lovely and exactly what we were hoping for. How lucy thinks Monty could do a programme about great French gardens without going there (what she refers to as a "freebee") is beyond me! smiley - doh And as for all those French people speaking FRENCH!!!! How dare they! smiley - doh

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    Posted by Annie-Lou (U4502268) ** on Saturday, 2nd February 2013

    Oh, and we loved the car. My wedding car was a yellow 2CV that hubby owned at the time! smiley - biggrin Can't wait for Villandry next week we went there the year before last and it was so lovely. Greatest veggie garden ever!

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    Posted by jackiegreet (U14273034) on Saturday, 2nd February 2013

    THE car. Try checking the number plates, we noticed at least 3 different ones. Oh you careless BBC.
    Enjoyed the gardens though

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    Posted by Annie-Lou (U4502268) ** on Saturday, 2nd February 2013

    THE car. Try checking the number plates, we noticed at least 3 different ones. Oh you careless BBC.
    Enjoyed the gardens though 
    Have considered your suggestion jackie, but decided against taking it up because:
    Life's too short
    It would be a bit pathetic
    It doesn't matter a hoot anyway, and
    We are too busy looking at the gardens

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    Posted by Lowena (U14575314) on Saturday, 2nd February 2013

    Lovely French garden ( Brittany) in the RHS magazine this month. Why does the BBC waste money and our time by always showing Monet's garden ( episode 3) and Versailles which we've all seen 100 times before? There are lots of lovely but unheralded by the BBC, in France - give us some variety!
    It's like when they do Cornisg gardens, it's always Heligan,Trebah and Tresco - show some initiative... please!!

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    Posted by Lowena (U14575314) on Saturday, 2nd February 2013

    Sorry about the typos.............indignation got the better of me smiley - blush

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    Posted by Pancho Wilkins (U1158194) ** on Saturday, 2nd February 2013

    Lovely French garden ( Brittany) in the RHS magazine this month. Why does the BBC waste money and our time by always showing Monet's garden ( episode 3) and Versailles which we've all seen 100 times before? There are lots of lovely but unheralded by the BBC, in France - give us some variety!
    It's like when they do Cornisg gardens, it's always Heligan,Trebah and Tresco - show some initiative... please!! 

    I had never seen the gardens of Versailles so in that respect the BBC did not waste money, nor my time, by showing it. I know that doesn't really help your argument. What with Monty Don self regarding himself at you, and the same old same old you've seen a hundred times (when do you find the itme?) I can see why you've been driven to white rage (or indignation, should I say?)

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    Posted by Bouillaguet (U14312340) on Saturday, 2nd February 2013

    Absolutely lovely and exactly what we were hoping for. How lucy thinks Monty could do a programme about great French gardens without going there (what she refers to as a "freebee") is beyond me! smiley - doh And as for all those French people speaking FRENCH!!!! How dare they! smiley - doh  If a French TV company did a programme on British gardens would Lucy expect all those involved to speak French? I would hazard a guess they could not. Most of those interviewed by MD appeared to understand his English but perhaps were not confident enough to reply in English for British TV.

    I enjoyed the programme very much and look forward to the next programme about vegetables and the 'potager' .

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    Posted by moondust123 (U13137194) on Saturday, 2nd February 2013

    Lovely French garden ( Brittany) in the RHS magazine this month. Why does the BBC waste money and our time by always showing Monet's garden ( episode 3) and Versailles which we've all seen 100 times before? There are lots of lovely but unheralded by the BBC, in France - give us some variety!
    It's like when they do Cornisg gardens, it's always Heligan,Trebah and Tresco - show some initiative... please!! 
    Yes, I agree. It's the accessibility that I love to watch - something I could learn from and perhaps do myself. I will never in a million years have a garden like Versailles, but I'd love to see how innovative the French city dwellers can be with their gardens in their small backyards or perhaps with pots on their balconies.

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    Posted by the_cleaner (U3423083) ** on Sunday, 3rd February 2013

    Lovely French garden ( Brittany) in the RHS magazine this month. Why does the BBC waste money and our time by always showing Monet's garden ( episode 3) and Versailles which we've all seen 100 times before? There are lots of lovely but unheralded by the BBC, in France - give us some variety!
    It's like when they do Cornisg gardens, it's always Heligan,Trebah and Tresco - show some initiative... please!! 
    Yes, I agree. It's the accessibility that I love to watch - something I could learn from and perhaps do myself. I will never in a million years have a garden like Versailles, but I'd love to see how innovative the French city dwellers can be with their gardens in their small backyards or perhaps with pots on their balconies.  
    From the other programmes Monty has made, Around the World in 80 Garden and the Italian one, I was not expecting normal back gardens or pots on balconies. Lavish dream like is what I was expecting, and that is what I got....as for Versailles, more please.smiley - cool


    I'm sure I saw allotments for next weeks programme, if that helps.

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    Posted by moondust123 (U13137194) on Sunday, 3rd February 2013

    Lovely French garden ( Brittany) in the RHS magazine this month. Why does the BBC waste money and our time by always showing Monet's garden ( episode 3) and Versailles which we've all seen 100 times before? There are lots of lovely but unheralded by the BBC, in France - give us some variety!
    It's like when they do Cornisg gardens, it's always Heligan,Trebah and Tresco - show some initiative... please!! 
    Yes, I agree. It's the accessibility that I love to watch - something I could learn from and perhaps do myself. I will never in a million years have a garden like Versailles, but I'd love to see how innovative the French city dwellers can be with their gardens in their small backyards or perhaps with pots on their balconies.  
    From the other programmes Monty has made, Around the World in 80 Garden and the Italian one, I was not expecting normal back gardens or pots on balconies. Lavish dream like is what I was expecting, and that is what I got....as for Versailles, more please.smiley - cool


    I'm sure I saw allotments for next weeks programme, if that helps.  
    Yes, fair enough the_cleaner. The BBC should (and does) cater to a wide array of tastes. It's good you are loving this series. Monty is always good value, wherever he lays his hat.

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    Posted by Annie-Lou (U4502268) ** on Sunday, 3rd February 2013

    Lavish dream gardens smiley - ok Though I too would like to see some of the less famous ones, but hey, we've only had one episode......

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    Posted by pedrokelly (U1360661) on Sunday, 3rd February 2013

    Excellent programme with an excellent presenter.

    That on a Friday night, and Howard Goodall on a Saturday, two excellent reasons to be watching the BBC.

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    Posted by Calendula (U2331338) on Monday, 4th February 2013

    THE car. Try checking the number plates, we noticed at least 3 different ones. Oh you careless BBC.
    Enjoyed the gardens though 
    Have considered your suggestion jackie, but decided against taking it up because:
    Life's too short
    It would be a bit pathetic
    It doesn't matter a hoot anyway, and
    We are too busy looking at the gardens 
    It's true that it doesn't matter that much, but why make a big thing of the car journey being part of the programme, and then it be patently obvious it isn't the same car? France is a big country so given the shooting schedule I'm sure most of the travel was by train or plane anyway, not to mention it clearly not all being shot in one go.

    Anyway, I enjoyed the programme very much. Was the flower show a 'national' one? It looked SO much less commercial that Chelsea or Hampton Court. I'm off to Paris and Nice in the spring and can't wait smiley - smiley

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    Posted by the cycling gardener (U2350416) on Monday, 4th February 2013

    <quote postid='115188381'>Lovely French garden ( Brittany) in the RHS magazine this month. Why does the BBC waste money and our time by always showing Monet's garden ( episode 3) and Versailles which we've all seen 100 times before? There are lots of lovely but unheralded by the BBC, in France - give us some variety!
    It's like when they do Cornisg gardens, it's always Heligan

    <quote>I didn't enjoy it at all and switched off half way through. MD is too self regarding for me.</quote>

    Hello Lowena,

    As you switched off half way through you would not have seen the roof garden and possibly the flower show, the segment about roses and the plant stall in Paris. It looks as though there are going to be some really interesting gardens coming up judging by the trailer for the rest of the series. I know you have never warmed to MD so I wonder how much your dislike of him is affecting your opinion?

    I think it is unreasonable to expect MD to put together a series about French gardens and not visit the most iconic and influential. Like you, I'm hoping we will see some little known gems just to see how the French garden on a day to day basis and interpret grand ideas in smaller spaces. I'm also hoping for some examples of contemporary French gardening and their handling of climatic and geographical challenges in different regions. Also, what are the common denominators in their gardens (we've been told about roses this week) and how are French gardeners using them? Are there regional variations? I expect gardens in Corbiere and Provence to look, feel and smell quite different from those in Normandy.

    I'll by holidaying in Mousehole in April. I've previously visited Heligan, Trebah and Tresco so I'd love a recommendation for somewhere off the tourist trail. Hardy Exotics will definitely get a visit.


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    Posted by Bouillaguet (U14312340) on Monday, 4th February 2013

    THE car. Try checking the number plates, we noticed at least 3 different ones. Oh you careless BBC.
    Enjoyed the gardens though 
    Have considered your suggestion jackie, but decided against taking it up because:
    Life's too short
    It would be a bit pathetic
    It doesn't matter a hoot anyway, and
    We are too busy looking at the gardens 
    It's true that it doesn't matter that much, but why make a big thing of the car journey being part of the programme, and then it be patently obvious it isn't the same car? France is a big country so given the shooting schedule I'm sure most of the travel was by train or plane anyway, not to mention it clearly not all being shot in one go.

    Anyway, I enjoyed the programme very much. Was the flower show a 'national' one? It looked SO much less commercial that Chelsea or Hampton Court. I'm off to Paris and Nice in the spring and can't wait smiley - smiley 
    I'm not sure if this is the one Monty visited, but I think it may be -

    www.domaine-de-cours...

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    Posted by Lowena (U14575314) on Monday, 4th February 2013

    Hiya The Cycling Gardener....I'm just off to the airport, but when I get back at the end of the month I'll recommend a garden or 2 smiley - biggrin I live just up / down the road from Hardy Exotics.
    I shall miss the other 2 MD episodes as I won't bother to record them. Hope you enjoy them... roll on Gardener's World smiley - smiley

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    Posted by the cycling gardener (U2350416) on Tuesday, 5th February 2013

    smiley - ok

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    Posted by germinator (U13411914) on Friday, 8th February 2013

    Quite entertaining tonight, even if he does tend to apply the sensuality with a no.2 shovel ♠. I would also have liked more detailed information on the locations.

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    Posted by leapinspeak (U15033923) on Saturday, 9th February 2013

    Unfortunately, Monty has become 'The Don', and now lives as a legend in his own mind. Well done to the Beeb for continuing to broadcast such diverse programmes, despite the pretentious presenters!

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    Posted by Pancho Wilkins (U1158194) ** on Saturday, 9th February 2013

    I'm not sure if this is the one Monty visited, but I think it may be -

    www.domaine-de-cours... 


    It was Courances, Bouillaguet.

    www.courances.net/...

    To view the pages, the links are on the thin organge band of the home page. I didn't notice them at first.

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    Posted by arkay48 (U2254651) on Saturday, 9th February 2013

    I quite enjoyed this although I found both programmes just a little too long. Perhaps I have become used to the half-hour format such as Michael Portillo's train journeys and Carol Klein's cottage gardens where the time seems to fly by. I'm impressed by the way that Monty makes an effort to speak to the people in their own language.

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    Posted by the_cleaner (U3423083) ** on Saturday, 9th February 2013

    I quite enjoyed this although I found both programmes just a little too long. Perhaps I have become used to the half-hour format such as Michael Portillo's train journeys and Carol Klein's cottage gardens where the time seems to fly by. I'm impressed by the way that Monty makes an effort to speak to the people in their own language.  These hour long programmes never feel like an hour, more like half.smiley - cool

    Loved the Nunnery this week, and the old Lady on the Allotment....but the Ornate Veg, only for show, not to be eaten....what's that all about.smiley - sadface
    Amazed by the Hotel Garden too, in Berry.

    Oxheart Tomato...smiley - yikes

    Quite entertaining tonight, even if he does tend to apply the sensuality with a no.2 shovel ♠. I would also have liked more detailed information on the locations. 
    More info on the locationssmiley - erm........they show a Map, name the Place, what more do you want, GPS coordinates. smiley - geek

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    Posted by germinator (U13411914) on Saturday, 9th February 2013

    OK, I may have missed it, but what was the name of the place where he took the ferry, and (that) where the restaurant was?

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    Posted by the_cleaner (U3423083) ** on Saturday, 9th February 2013

    OK, I may have missed it, but what was the name of the place where he took the ferry, and (that) where the restaurant was?  Get the Book....smiley - erm

    Out Soon...
    The Road to Le Tholonet: A French Garden Journey
    by Monty Don

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    Posted by Bouillaguet (U14312340) on Saturday, 9th February 2013

    I'm not sure if this is the one Monty visited, but I think it may be -

    www.domaine-de-cours... 


    It was Courances, Bouillaguet.

    www.courances.net/...

    To view the pages, the links are on the thin organge band of the home page. I didn't notice them at first.

     
    Thanks Pancho, but I was referring to the 'flower show/sale' that the other poster was asking about.

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    Posted by Pancho Wilkins (U1158194) ** on Saturday, 9th February 2013

    I'm not sure if this is the one Monty visited, but I think it may be -

    www.domaine-de-cours... 


    It was Courances, Bouillaguet.

    www.courances.net/...

    To view the pages, the links are on the thin organge band of the home page. I didn't notice them at first.

     
    Thanks Pancho, but I was referring to the 'flower show/sale' that the other poster was asking about. 

    I am sorry, Bouillaguet. I don't remember seeing a flower show so I hadn't picked up on that.

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    Posted by Annie-Lou (U4502268) ** on Saturday, 9th February 2013

    OK, I may have missed it, but what was the name of the place where he took the ferry, and (that) where the restaurant was?  I didn't catch it either, germi, though I was listening out for it. A lovely episode, though. It made me want to get straight on a train to Aix! Sigh. And a wonderful variety of different types of garden. The only problem was that they are dealt with so fleetingly. I would like to linger.

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    Posted by germinator (U13411914) on Saturday, 9th February 2013

    I think this must be it (the ferry) Annie: http://www.smtdr.fr/

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    Posted by Bouillaguet (U14312340) on Saturday, 9th February 2013

    OK, I may have missed it, but what was the name of the place where he took the ferry, and (that) where the restaurant was?  I didn't catch it either, germi, though I was listening out for it. A lovely episode, though. It made me want to get straight on a train to Aix! Sigh. And a wonderful variety of different types of garden. The only problem was that they are dealt with so fleetingly. I would like to linger.   This was the Michelin 1* restaurant:

    www.chassagnette.fr/...

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    Posted by Annie-Lou (U4502268) ** on Saturday, 9th February 2013

    Thanks guys looks lovely...........I've been to the beach a Saintes-Maries-de-la-mer, but it was with the kids when they were little, so no * restaurants for us! smiley - biggrin

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    Posted by Annie-Lou (U4502268) ** on Saturday, 16th February 2013

    Lovely....three episodes not enough. Plenty of little known gardens this week and plenty of practical advice. Monty must have been quite a 19 year old (its hard to imagine a teenager like that these days!)
    But the best thing about this programme is the way Monty addresses us as grown-ups! How refreshing! No grinning sidekick going "and what have you been getting up to this week Monty?"!!

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    Posted by Annie-Lou (U4502268) ** on Saturday, 16th February 2013

    .......and he didn't feel obliged to dress up as an Edwardian painter to show us Monet's garden! Bliss!

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    Posted by FowPah (U1746998) on Saturday, 16th February 2013

    Monty has tweeted this morning that "the BBC have elected not to promote or publicise French Gardens in any way". Any future series depends on viewing figures. He goes further, explaining that "all publicity has been done - brilliantly- independently of the BBC despite the fact it is a BBC programme we are promoting".

    Why BBC? This promises to be a fabulous programme. If it's anything like his previous series on Italian gardens it will be filled with visual beauty and intelligent narrative, of interest to gardeners and non-gardeners alike - anyone with an interest in history, architecture, art and in this instance, France.

    Posters on this board have complained that Michael Portilo's superb Great British Railway Journeys also suffered through lack of publicity. Fans of the series had to use their skills of detection to locate the new one in the schedules.

    Yet - we are bombarded with trailers for rubbish and programmes that have proved very successful in the past - programmes that shouldn't need endless plugging. Where is the logic?

    www.dailymail.co.uk/... 
    I guess it isn't right-on and trendy enough for them.

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