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Message 1.
Posted by DoverSoul (U14934992) on Saturday, 5th January 2013
We seem to be lacking a regular or main thread for Saturday Kitchen, so hope this can be it.
This morning, 05/01/2013. James said that most people walk past and ignore baby or pearl onions in their supermarket. I'd just like to say that on the previous Food board and other foodie boards people are **always** asking for details of where they can get these onions. Sometimes it has even been suggested that people use pickled silverskin onions and wash them first. So can James please, please, maybe next week, tell us which supermarkets they are available in and being ignored. Or would this be advertising? Even something on his own website would be useful.
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Message 2
Posted by olderoses (U13772065) on Saturday, 5th January 2013
I was the only poster on Dec4th. Sat. kitchen is a strange mixture of personalities,chefs and recipes...I'm not a regular viewer..
What are the viewing figures?..probably don't justify a continual thread. -
Message 3
Posted by DoverSoul (U14934992) on Saturday, 5th January 2013
To be frank oldroses, your post was about the Olympic dinner which had already been shown as a programme in it's own right and was only a clip on the show.
There are many new threads started about Saturday Kitchen, some (often) about hygiene factors, which are often misguided or simply wrong, some are about James Martin in a personal nature, some are about the clips as was yours, some are about the guest chefs, some about the recipes, some about the guest personalities themselves.
Oh and let's not forget how many people seem to dislike the omelette challenge
It was only when I went through my discussions and deleted all the unanswered or closed threads that I realised how often there are rogue one off posts about Saturday Kitchen that could be accumulated in one thread.
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Message 4
Posted by Pancho Wilkins (U1158194) on Saturday, 5th January 2013
Oh and let's not forget how many people seem to dislike the omelette challenge
I pounce with relish upon this unexpected opportunity as it gives me great pleasure to express my utter abhorrence of the omelette challenge.
[ author's note: it is a good idea to keep a little relish with one at all times for exactly such moments as the above] -
Message 5
Posted by devonia (U11270616) on Saturday, 12th January 2013
Please stop the awful omelette challenge. It breaks my heart to see half a dozen eggs wasted every week. In view of the news this week that half the world's food is wasted, entertainment programmes, in my view, should not be adding to it.
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Message 6
Posted by Andrew (U14703834) on Saturday, 12th January 2013
Please stop the awful omelette challenge. It breaks my heart to see half a dozen eggs wasted every week. In view of the news this week that half the world's food is wasted, entertainment programmes, in my view, should not be adding to it.
Agree. It is pointless and has become boring -
Message 7
Posted by thedogcody (U14659366) on Saturday, 12th January 2013
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Message 8
Posted by DoverSoul (U14934992) on Saturday, 12th January 2013
In reply to the other discussion, linked to above, about the members of the public no longer being there, I didn't think they were in the last series either. It seems ages since they were there, and when they were a lot of people said they added nothing to the programme anyway.
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Message 9
Posted by devonia (U11270616) on Saturday, 12th January 2013
Can anyone answer this? When I put saturday kitchen into the search box, this thread didn't come up. The latest was for the 1st December. Why?
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Message 10
Posted by devonia (U11270616) on Saturday, 12th January 2013
I've just checked again and there are lots of saturday kitchen posts after this but nothing I felt was relevant so how do you decide?
It was thedogcody's link to another thread started today that has made me question it. -
Message 11
Posted by thedogcody (U14659366) on Saturday, 12th January 2013
I've just checked again and there are lots of saturday kitchen posts after this but nothing I felt was relevant so how do you decide?
It was thedogcody's link to another thread started today that has made me question it. Good question-there is no link to this one at all -and have tried various permutations-a puzzle indeed -
Message 12
Posted by DoverSoul (U14934992) on Saturday, 12th January 2013
Could it be that I only put Saturday Kitchen in the title, which makes it easier to LOOK for on the page, but didn't put it in the text, which could be the search engine's priority. As was implied on the Ask Peta thread the other day. Having said that, devonia has put it in the text of her post and it still didn't come up.
It's a conspiricy I say!!
Anyone watch this morning? Not the best of shows IMO.
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Message 13
Posted by devonia (U11270616) on Saturday, 12th January 2013
Thank you both. Glad it's not just me whose confused.
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Message 14
Posted by DoverSoul (U14934992) on Saturday, 23rd February 2013
Loved it this morning when a phone caller said she had some mince beef and after James had joked about putting it on ebay the first thing Stephen Terry said he would add would be horseraddish. James then had to add that it wasn't a gag.
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Message 15
Posted by wineguzzler (U4817930) on Saturday, 23rd February 2013
I too searched earlier for a thread ?
Anyway, I think Saturday kitchen only loosely describes the programme these days, it should be entitled " anyone who is trying to self promote/ flog a Tv, radio, theatre, film etc production/ sell a book, oh and a bit of cooking too which normally is talked over by James trying to act interested in guest person " (who by the way rarely shows the slightest interest in stuffs foody)
Really annoys me when I am trying to follow the cooking and all the chefs seem to do is talk about their latest restaurant/pub/ hotel etc. -
Message 16
Posted by Bouillaguet (U14312340) on Saturday, 23rd February 2013
On today's programme James cooked Sticky Toffee Pudding as Food Heaven for Ruthie Henshaw. When I looked on the BBC Food website for the recipe it stated it was Steamed Sticky Toffee Pudding, steamed in a Pudding Basin, but I'm sure that James's was shown being cooked in the oven. Can anyone remember how long it's cooked for and the oven temperature please?
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Message 17
Posted by DoverSoul (U14934992) on Saturday, 23rd February 2013
He certainly did bake it in the oven.
It's on iPlayer now (approx 1hr 35½mins) but James said 30 mins at 400F, gas mark 4, 200C. But of course it would depend on the size of the tin, and I don't think he said that bit. -
Message 18
Posted by DoverSoul (U14934992) on Saturday, 23rd February 2013
You could always try emailing Cactus though
saturday.kitchen@cactustv.co.uk
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Message 19
Posted by Bouillaguet (U14312340) on Saturday, 23rd February 2013
He certainly did bake it in the oven.
It's on iPlayer now (approx 1hr 35½mins) but James said 30 mins at 400F, gas mark 4, 200C. But of course it would depend on the size of the tin, and I don't think he said that bit. Thanks so much DS; I can't get iPlayer so your information is just what I needed. I saw the tins, so can more or less guess those
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Message 20
Posted by DoverSoul (U14934992) on Saturday, 23rd February 2013
So pleased I could help, can you let me know how they turn out if you make it please? Would be interesting to know if the steamed version works as well.
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Message 21
Posted by Bouillaguet (U14312340) on Sunday, 24th February 2013
I will, but won't be even be trying the steamed version as I can't be doing with all that faffing about and steaming for 1.5 hours - as we are on bottle gas I'd be using it all up!
I'm not a great lover of treacle, so might decrease the amount of that and increase the syrup.
It might be a few weeks before I'm back with the results!
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Message 22
Posted by AndyMathers (U15666665) on Saturday, 30th March 2013
I too searched earlier for a thread ?
Anyway, I think Saturday kitchen only loosely describes the programme these days, it should be entitled " anyone who is trying to self promote/ flog a Tv, radio, theatre, film etc production/ sell a book, oh and a bit of cooking too which normally is talked over by James trying to act interested in guest person " (who by the way rarely shows the slightest interest in stuffs foody)
Really annoys me when I am trying to follow the cooking and all the chefs seem to do is talk about their latest restaurant/pub/ hotel etc. How I agree with this comment, a while ago we had the ridiculous situation when his guest, Sally Field, had obviously been despatched by director, Spielberg, to promote his latest film - only she was stuck in France - but this wasn't going to stop them, so James spoke to her over the phone, obviously the promoters had paid for their slot, so we had to listen to her dribble on about her latest film. We even had her food heaven or hell - how boring. I was a big fan of the show but I now record it and fast forward through the boring guest interviews.
I don't know if I am alone in this, but hasn't the show somehow become a lot more mundane and slower, I think part of it is because they removed the two table guests, ordinary members of the public. I admit they did not say a lot, but they provided an audience, which helped to liven up the show. Why were they got rid of? a mistake in my opinion.
Another element of the show which annoys me, is the food heaven/ hell part of the show. so often the callers vote is over-ridden by the guest chefs, who seem to be under instruction by James Martin. The only recent improvement in this respect is that less Lobster is being chosen (perhaps the BBC have had a hand here, in this straightened times) as the food heaven, I think Lobster should be banned as a food heaven - These over-pampered celebrities should be forced to taste ordinary food, not getting a luxurious freebie at our expense - let's be honest how many viewers actually bother to cook lobster. I want to learn how to cook everyday food.
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Message 23
Posted by AndyMathers (U15666665) on Saturday, 30th March 2013
In reply to the other discussion, linked to above, about the members of the public no longer being there, I didn't think they were in the last series either. It seems ages since they were there, and when they were a lot of people said they added nothing to the programme anyway.
Just read your comment, and recently posted my views on this. while I agree with you that they did not say very much. They provided an audience for the chefs and since they have gone the program has become a lot more mundane and slow in my opinion. -
Message 24
Posted by snowlane (U8325178) on Saturday, 30th March 2013
I wish they would stop inserting the clips of old bbc2 cooking series and stay in the studio. It's rather difficult to sustain interest for the duration of the show, although there are elements which I do enjoy. I don't miss the studio guests. I used to feel sorry for them sitting there being ignored and playing second fiddle to the 'celeb' guest. Why on earth do they continue the awful boorish omelette challenge? Poor members of the public, supposedly phoning in their culinary queries, are being rushed and used for the silly vote on food heaven/hell. It seems to be that it would be easy to shake up and improve the format.
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Message 25
Posted by DoverSoul (U14934992) on Tuesday, 2nd April 2013
I agree with most of what you say. I tend to wait for it to come on iPlayer so I can wizz through the clips I have seen many times before, but maybe the time used up by those clips is used in the studio to prepare for the next dish they are cooking live?
I don't mind the omelette challege though to be honest, I find it interesting how different chefs aproach it.
But I really agree with you about the answers to the phone-in questions, and I think I have said it before. It is very rare that a good or proper answer is given, it just rushes through to "so do you want heaven or hell". So if only one of the clips could be dropped so more time could be spent on the phone in it would be an improvement to me.
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Message 26
Posted by DoverSoul (U14934992) on Tuesday, 2nd April 2013
Hi AndyMathers, I don't see how the chefs in the studio can override the callers as there are more callers than chefs! Nor do I think James ever gives instructions,
Why would he? Both dishes are cooked anyway to use the ingredients, one for the guest on the show and the other (maybe by the home economists) after the show goes off air.
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Message 27
Posted by Guv-nor (U7476305) on Friday, 5th April 2013
Just getting this thread out of the freezer for the morning.
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Message 28
Posted by Chezzie (U1159267) on Saturday, 6th April 2013
Thank you Guv-nor, I would like to get in quick with a complaint about the omelette challenge, complete waste of time, week after week a plate full of slime, I am amazed that the chefs agree to do it.
Whilst I am in moaning mood, whacking spoons on the edge of saucepans is like nails on a blackboard to me. It makes the spons and the saucepans rough, scraping forks in non-stick pans is another gripe. -
Message 29
Posted by devonia (U11270616) on Saturday, 6th April 2013
Agree about the omelette challenge and have said so before as have many others. Such a waste of food as well, when we hear of people going hungry or relying on food banks.
Julian Clary today. Brace yourselves for the innuendos. Should be good.
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Message 30
Posted by Pilsbury (U14369331) on Saturday, 6th April 2013
Could someone please tell James that potatoes do not constitute one of your 5 a day unless they are sweet...
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Message 31
Posted by Bidie In (U2747062) on Saturday, 6th April 2013
Agree about the omelette challenge and have said so before as have many others. Such a waste of food as well, when we hear of people going hungry or relying on food banks.
Julian Clary today. Brace yourselves for the innuendos. Should be good.
Didn't see the whole show, but it was great to see Julian Clary looking so well again! -
Message 32
Posted by Andrew (U14703834) on Saturday, 6th April 2013
It's funny how the celebs do the rounds. If they're in one programme they're often in something else the next day - JC was on Loose Women yesterday.
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Message 33
Posted by Chezzie (U1159267) on Saturday, 6th April 2013
Graham Norton and the One Show usually have the same guests.
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Message 34
Posted by DoverSoul (U14934992) on Saturday, 6th April 2013
As I have said before, I don't mind the omelette challenge and find it interesting how different chefs approach it. Madhur Jaffrey for example
But one the whole it is just a bit of fun and I think the vast majority of chefs really enjoy it.
When you take into consideration how much food is used for the programme as a whole, the Food Eccs testing all the dishes, the full dishes in rehersal, the part cooked dishes to be finished later, the pre cooked dishes to be served up. 6 eggs and a bit of butter isn't very much.
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Message 35
Posted by Justnow (U2498091) on Saturday, 6th April 2013
I get the impression that the other Chefs also enjoying doing the omlette challenge, they all seem to be very competitive - I find it boring myself.
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Message 36
Posted by Simon Barton (U14283743) on Saturday, 6th April 2013
I agree that the omelette challenge is ridiculous. I've noticed that James has been a lot tougher this series but I think that they ought to introduce a new rule. The chef should have to eat at least half of their omelette to qualify. If they arnt prepared to do so then they haven't cooked an omelette!
It would certainly cut down on the 'raw eggs on a plate' most of them serve up each week. -
Message 37
Posted by Guv-nor (U7476305) on Saturday, 13th April 2013
I didn't get to see the omelette challenge today.
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Message 38
Posted by DoverSoul (U14934992) on Sunday, 14th April 2013
You didn't miss much Guv, the omelette challenge wasn't very eggciting, nor was the rest of the programme in my opinion. Not one of the best I've seen.
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Message 39
Posted by Bouillaguet (U14312340) on Saturday, 27th April 2013
I thought Monica Galetti's comment this morning about it being a long time since she'd drunk a bottle of wine under £8.00 was a bit patronising and ill-judged when the challenge to live on £1 a day is starting Monday!
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Message 40
Posted by DoverSoul (U14934992) on Friday, 10th May 2013
Just bumping this thread up for the morning as well.
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Message 41
Posted by DoverSoul (U14934992) on Saturday, 11th May 2013
Just as well I will probably never eat in either of the guest chef's restaurants, their dishes today did nothing for me at all.
Too much faffing about and not enough food
Silly wine slot with the footie scarves and concentrating on her bottie in those leather trousers.
James' swiss roll looked good though, and at least Lewis Smith tucked into the squid and seemed to enjoy it. -
Message 42
Posted by Chezzie (U1159267) on Sunday, 12th May 2013
Well done to Lewis for eating the tentacles, I did once but never again!
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Message 43
Posted by DoverSoul (U14934992) on Friday, 17th May 2013
Brian Turner is listed as being on tomorrow. The Yorkshire Lads! Bring out the butter and cream.
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Message 44
Posted by judimac (U2467704) on Saturday, 18th May 2013
What a cheerful programme this morning! After last weeks guest looking like a spare groom at a wedding, at least Sarah Hadland is enthusiastic and interacts with everyone. I also appreciate her summery dress on a day which is unremittingly dreary weatherwise.And of course Brian Turner is always good value for money.
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Message 45
Posted by DoverSoul (U14934992) on Saturday, 18th May 2013
I didn't think Lewis was that bad last week, let's face it he's not really a TV person, as such.
Liked the look of both the chef recipe's this morning, I also love James and Brian working together. Always a treat. -
Message 46
Posted by Bouillaguet (U14312340) on Saturday, 18th May 2013
What a cheerful programme this morning! After last weeks guest looking like a spare groom at a wedding, at least Sarah Hadland is enthusiastic and interacts with everyone. I also appreciate her summery dress on a day which is unremittingly dreary weatherwise.And of course Brian Turner is always good value for money. I agree with you about the programme this morning, good fun all round and interesting recipes. Sarah Hadland was a cheerful guest, but that dress had me worrying she might catch a cold - rather too summery at the moment, although very pretty.
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