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  • Message 1. 

    Posted by kevinspeake (U14705635) on Monday, 29th November 2010

    Im absolutely disgusted as a licence payer the BBC will potentially influence the outcome of the World Cup bid for it's own self publicity (it can not possibly be for anything else). The World Cup would leave a legacy for millions, inspire millions more and be the specticle of a life time! How many licence fee payers would prefer the chance, and it is a big chance, to watch Panorama over a World Cup...im guessing over a population not many! I hope the viewing figures make this worthwhile for them because from now on I hope the population boycotts their coverage of sport as they seem hell bent on boycotting our chances of a World Cup.

    Our "free media" serves our wishes so well

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    Posted by Gavin (U3854360) on Monday, 29th November 2010

    Your post looks a bit "political" and I suspect it might be removed. Meanwhile, rather like Wikileaks, I think the BBC is fully justified in bringing to light any instances of malpractice or corruption.
    If that influences a decision on the UK bid, tough!

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    Posted by Guv-nor (U7476305) on Monday, 29th November 2010

    In reply to kevinspeake:
    You say I hope the population boycotts their coverage of sport  

    I agree.

    Also I watch Panorama and avoid football. Although the World Cup will pollute our screens whoever hosts it, so I will not get my desired outcome.

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    Posted by Surabaya Johnny (U1163609) on Monday, 29th November 2010

    In reply to Gavin:

    << I think the BBC is fully justified in bringing to light any instances of malpractice or corruption.
    If that influences a decision on the UK bid, tough! >>

    Couldn't agree more.

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    Posted by Piltdown (U6504098) on Monday, 29th November 2010

    Several threads have been started about this Panorama investigation. Do I detect a concerted effort by footie fans to try and persuade the BBC to cancel or postpone the programme?

    If so it's not going very well. The duty of the BBC to expose corruption is more important than blind support of any sporting event. I hope they follow it up with an examination of the Olympic games.

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    Posted by C_BristolUK (U14118877) on Monday, 29th November 2010

    However much we might enjoy the World Cup if there is evidence of corruption it needs to be made public and resolved. If FIFA can't deal with corruption or criticism then international football needs to appoint a new governing body.
    The BBC has justified the cost of its licence fee by highlighting an issue that affects many people around the world as well as many people in this country.

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    Posted by Wolf_1989 (U13643423) on Monday, 29th November 2010

    I agree I hope all football fans boycott watching this programme.

    If we fail to win the bid the BBC is going to be the one who receives the blame.

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    Posted by Hazel (U14354588) on Monday, 29th November 2010

    Well, here's a new idea.

    If the BBC is going to broadcast the Panorama programme about corruption in FIFA, it is possible that this country will not host the Football World Cup. What does this mean? It means that the BBC reporters will be able to travel abroad to the foreign host instead of staying within the bounds of our shores!

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    Posted by zelda (U2012536) on Monday, 29th November 2010

    I am amazed and disgusted that anyone ever thought there were no bribes in football or any other sport for that matter. The money aspect long took over any sporting glory.

    If there is corruption we should know about it and quickly. Many people couldn't give a 4X about hosting the World cup here anyway.

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    Posted by SE3177345 (U5255888) on Monday, 29th November 2010

    If we fail to win the bid the BBC is going to be the one who receives the blame. 

    That's ridiculous. The blame will lie with the wrongdoers, not those who exposed the wrongdoing.

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    Posted by Guv-nor (U7476305) on Monday, 29th November 2010

    In reply to Hazel: Too slow www.bbc.co.uk/dna/mb...

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    Posted by MarktheHorn (U14097659) on Monday, 29th November 2010

    The only surprise must be these allegations are being covered now.

    Bribes have been going on for years...

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    Posted by Rvvm (U1654380) on Monday, 29th November 2010

    The unsurprising FIFA bribery and corruption allegations need to be reported but the timing is cynical. I'd hazard that the BBC could have aired this programme a long time ago.

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    Posted by Why it Matters (U14641049) on Monday, 29th November 2010

    Actually, kevinspeake, they don't need to broadcast the program. the news is already on theBBC web site:

    www.bbc.co.uk/news/u...

    Of course, there are many possible reasons for the delay. it could be, for example, that because they have to give anybody involved the right to respond, they have to give them reasonable time to do so.

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    Posted by Binkie (U9634110) on Monday, 29th November 2010

    This Panorama programme is digging up an old story that took place in the 1990's .So the publicity seeking BBC finally gets around to investigating the corruption.Well done the BBC, while others are fighting to get the World Cup here after 44 years the BBC decides to kick the whole objective in the nuts.

    Corruption in Fifa ?.........well I never.Who would have thought it ? Lets drag up old news to get some serious BBC attention.

    Can we have a Panorama programme about any corruption at the BBC or is that out of bounds ?

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    Posted by Binkie (U9634110) on Monday, 29th November 2010

    ....btw if this story is in the public interest which seems to be the BBC's only excuse then why has it taken over 20 years to broadcast a programme about the corruption at FiFA ?

    Public Interest ? My *rse.

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    Posted by Why it Matters (U14641049) on Monday, 29th November 2010

    The allegations may deal with events some of which took place a decade ago; however, it is a program about people who are currently part of the decision-making process for 2018 and 2022.

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  • Message 19

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    Posted by Hazel (U14354588) on Monday, 29th November 2010

    "In reply to Hazel: Too slow www.bbc.co.uk/dna/mb... "


    You're right. Sorry.

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    Posted by Rvvm (U1654380) on Monday, 29th November 2010

    Who's idea was it to screen this at the same time as Barca v Real Madrid tonight? smiley - doh

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    Posted by Binkie (U9634110) on Monday, 29th November 2010

    If the BBC Panorama programme is about people making the 2018 and 2022 decisions now then it is inexcuseable that the BBC sat on this for so long.If they had wanted to investigate the corruption 10 years ago in Fifa, which they should have and had the means to do so , then those dodgy officials in suits would have been turfed out and would not be making the decisons in 3 days time.The timing is just awful.Show me any business or organisation that is squeaky clean and clear of anykind of corruption ? Investigate them all please won't you BBC and don't just be selective to get attention.

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    Posted by apatheticinterest (U13667554) on Monday, 29th November 2010

    Don't know why the bbc are leaving themselves open to blame if uk dosn't win bid. will never know why didn't win. News said one of them took 15,000 from a global corp 15 years ago to keep a contract, it happens.

    Other parts of media would be going on about how happy we should be if did win it and a royal wedding in same month.
    If spain and port win, might fancy a bailout to celebrate? but bbc says russia is favourite

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    Posted by EggOnAStilt (U7111730) on Monday, 29th November 2010

    Mmmmmmmmmm so the timing is wrong, someone highlighting where my taxes are being/have been spent in promoting something which may or may not suffer from some serious corruption.
    Well let's have a look, if it's clean why not now?
    If they have nothing to hide it should not affect where the wc is played.

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  • Message 25

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    Posted by BLZbubsbrother (U14287474) on Monday, 29th November 2010

    DFon't understand the attackers of the Beeb on this one. Auntie is not the bad guy - it's Blatter and Co

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    Posted by Grandadpop (U3054464) on Monday, 29th November 2010

    Being the bearer of bad news was always a risky job...hence the saying: 'Don't shoot the messenger!'

    Like the poor Persian emissary who went to Leonidas, the King of Sparta, to deliver Xerxe's thinly veiled ultimatum...and we all know what happened to HIM! One can imagine the reaction of FIFA officials to the Panorama programme...
    "THIS! IS! FIFA!"

    And England's chances of hosting the World Cup will go...down a big, black hole! smiley - doh

    'G' smiley - sadface

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  • Message 28

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    Posted by hoddles off into the sunset (U14129169) on Tuesday, 30th November 2010

    Don't know why the bbc are leaving themselves open to blame if uk dosn't win bid. 

    It's an England bid, not a UK bid.

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  • Message 29

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    Posted by Dave Bird (U14696781) on Tuesday, 30th November 2010

    I hope you people at the BBC are happy now, what was the point? I allways back the BBC but thios time you got it wrong wrong wrong, this program could have been put back a week or not shown at all it was old news rehashed, come on BBC you are better than that, you are scrapping the bottom of the barrel if this is the sort of program you are going to show.
    A discusted Licence Payer

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  • Message 30

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    Posted by old git at 70 (U14213449) on Tuesday, 30th November 2010

    This is not about this Panorama programme: but one last night on ITV about Victim support and how the Justice System is still weighted in favour of the wrongdoer and against the victim, surely this is the sort of subject that Panorama used to cover verry well

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  • Message 31

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    Posted by Phil-ap (U13637313) on Tuesday, 30th November 2010

    The BBC have only had the information reported in the progamme for a few weeks. In order to shame FIFA into holding an enquiry it needed to be presented at a time when it would gain maximum publicity which is before the vote not afterwards. FIFA have had the information for three weeks and have just sat on it.

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    Posted by Czerniakowska (U14500329) on Tuesday, 30th November 2010

    "surely this is the sort of subject that Panorama used to cover verry well"

    And still does. So, what is your point?

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  • Message 34

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    Posted by Gloops (U1463451) on Tuesday, 30th November 2010

    I wouldn't worry. The England bid was already doomed after Lord Triesman's comments were printed in the Sunday Mail in the Spring.

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    Posted by Big Al (U1264852) on Tuesday, 30th November 2010

    Well, here's a new idea.

    If the BBC is going to broadcast the Panorama programme about corruption in FIFA, it is possible that this country will not host the Football World Cup. What does this mean? It means that the BBC reporters will be able to travel abroad to the foreign host instead of staying within the bounds of our shores! 


    If that's the case, let's hope Russia wins it and it's nice and cold when the tournament's on.

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    Posted by chunke (U14706476) on Tuesday, 30th November 2010

    This would have been great for England and even Britain, oh well, thanks BBC you've ruining it for a nation. Could you have waited a few days until the decision had been made?

    wikileak wannabes

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    Posted by Bruce the boat (U14258820) on Tuesday, 30th November 2010

    Well done the BBC, you did the correct thing.

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    Posted by Essential Rabbit (U3613943) on Tuesday, 30th November 2010

    Well done BBC for resisting the pressure from various sources and not bowing down to all the demands for censorship.
    This excellent investigative documentary programme needed to be screened, if only to demonstrate that those controlling both international and national football should no longer be exempt from the rules of behaviour that govern the rest of us.

    It's time someone took a moral stand and refused to accept the "World Cup at Any Price" doctrine. Such an attitude diminishes our nation.

    Congratulations Panorama.

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    Posted by Essential Rabbit (U3613943) on Tuesday, 30th November 2010

    jemina1,

    From mine and other messages removed from the other thread last night, I think the PTB are a bit scared of the "C" word.

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    Posted by Jemina (U14653370) on Tuesday, 30th November 2010

    Gosh, now I have had 2 posts removed and I can't think why. I just want to support Panorama's decision to air a programme that disclosed corruption. What's wrong with that?

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    Posted by Binkie (U9634110) on Tuesday, 30th November 2010

    Could Panorama now do a programme about any corruption at the BBC and how licence fee money is sometimes abused ?

    Can't wait for that one or will they just sit on it for years and years ?

    Dare I say I find it all rather hypocritical ?

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    Posted by Hazel3336 (U14641847) on Tuesday, 30th November 2010

    What particular rule did my post break?
    I was praising the BBC for having the guts to expose corruption.
    I am new to the site. If that broke a rule then what can you say?

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    Posted by Essential Rabbit (U3613943) on Tuesday, 30th November 2010

    Hazel,
    They apparently don't like the "C" word, which of course, makes it impossible to discuss the programme.

    I've complained about this on the POV Board Issues thread on the BBC board.
    Don't expect a reply though, seems they prefer the anti BBC rants.

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    Posted by Piltdown (U6504098) on Tuesday, 30th November 2010

    I congratulate the BBC for going ahead with this programme and not caving in to the footie nutters. If only our spineless government would stand up to FIFA in the same way that the Dutch did. If every nation did the same then FIFA would have to clean up their act.

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    Posted by salukisbest (U14633979) on Tuesday, 30th November 2010

    I used to be an avid supporter of the BBC particularly its sports coverage but this FIFA programme, the 'accused' involving the Afghanistan soldier and the messing about with Question of Sport have incensed me. Investigate FIFA by all means but couldnt they have waited just one week before airing it until after the result. England has spent thousands and thousands of pounds mounting the bid and it has now all been wasted. The BBC needs to start getting its act together and give some thought as to the impact their programmes have. A bit of tact wouldn't come amiss!

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    Posted by Phil-ap (U13637313) on Tuesday, 30th November 2010

    The most important thing (and I would hope that all true football fans would agree) is that FIFA sorts itself out. The Panorama progamme being shown at a time of most publicity makes this more likely. If it had been shown after the vote the progamme's impact would have been severely diminished.

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