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    This posting has been hidden during moderation because it broke the House Rules in some way.

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    This posting has been hidden during moderation because it broke the House Rules in some way.

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    Posted by DragonFluff (U6879248) on Saturday, 18th October 2008

    Sat, 18 Oct 2008 10:02 GMT, in reply to Quizzimodo in message 1

    Quizzi, what's puzzling me is that we are in pre-mod, so someone is reading our posts before they are published. However, after publication, someone else (presumably) is deciding that they are not suitable for publication and closing the threads.

    I am confused...

    Fluff

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    This posting has been hidden during moderation because it broke the House Rules in some way.

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    This posting has been hidden during moderation because it broke the House Rules in some way.

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    Posted by Quizzimodo (U551071) on Saturday, 18th October 2008

    I do beg your pardon.
     



    Mock Outrage.

    Apologies if my response came across as tetchy or aggressive. It wasn't my intention.

    Trying to make sense of the workings of the BEEB can have that effect :-D

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    Posted by MO (U6476482) on Saturday, 18th October 2008

    No problem Quizzi <hug>

    It is all rather perplexing.

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    Posted by Lee (U1149673) on Saturday, 18th October 2008

    We start the threads (such as this one) on the bbc.co.uk boar.
    Surely this is the place to discuss such things& (hopefully) get some answers.

    It would be nice if this thread wasn't closed until we get some replies (hopefully from Lee etc)  

    Hi everyone

    Sorry, but as I explained before on one of the earlier threads, I don't work for the team that runs the messageboards and I'm not involved in any of the decisions relating to how they're run.

    It's precisely for this reason that I avoid telling people what they can and can't post - I've had my fingers burnt before and it inevitably leads to a flood of questions about the boards that I'm not able to answer.

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    Posted by Quizzimodo (U551071) on Saturday, 18th October 2008

    Lee:

    Thanks for your reply.

    Can you give us some pointers to where we might get some answers.

    I'm sure you realize there is quite a bit of bad feeling over these boards at the moment that a little bit of clarification would probably help to dispel.

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    Posted by Lee (U1149673) on Saturday, 18th October 2008

    The last time I enquired I was informed that people who have a query about this board should contact the hosts by email - via pov.hosts@bbc.co.uk.

    Please bear in mind that the team have full time jobs in addition to running the boards (and are unlikely to be working outside office hours) so you can't expect an immediate reply. The BBC, like most large organisations, aims to respond to correspondence within ten working days.

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    Posted by DragonFluff (U6879248) on Saturday, 18th October 2008

    Sat, 18 Oct 2008 11:55 GMT, in reply to Lee in message 9

    Lee, this is something that has confused me for a while.

    If a message is reported, and the moderators can't make an instant decision, the message displayed says "This posting has been temporarily hidden, because a member of our Moderation Team has referred it to the Hosts for a decision as to whether it contravenes the House rules in some way."

    I've always thought that this means the complaint is passed to the Hosts for a decision as to whether the post is appropriate in context, whether it is in the spirit of the thread and the board, as the Host has a better overview than the Moderator, who only sees the post in isolation.

    From what you say, this isn't happening in the way that's implied in the message.

    Can you, or someone from Central Communities, please confirm the procedure, so that misconceptions such as the one that has arisen here (ie, your involvement in the thread) don't happen again and those of us who misinterpreted that involvement don't make the same mistake, and pay the same price, again?

    As it's difficult to get tone across in plain text, please be assured that this is a genuine enquiry and not meant to sound bolshy or sarcastic in any way.

    Fluff

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    Posted by Lee (U1149673) on Saturday, 18th October 2008

    As I've said before, I try not to get involved in discussions about the way the board is run because it just leads to more and more questions that I'm not able to answer.

    One thing that seems clear (from the number of times it's been mentioned or referred to) is the fact that my personal contribution to the thread - one single posting - appears to be the cause of confusion and anger for a lot of people. Not for the first time it seems that my presence on this board is causing no end of problem!

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    Posted by MO (U6476482) on Saturday, 18th October 2008

    Not for the first time it seems that my presence on this board is causing no end of problem! 

    I personally don't see it that way Lee. In many ways it *could* be seen that you are as much a victim of this situation as anyone. My personal opinion, and I would not want to speak for those who have been tossed into pre-mod, is that the moderators have created an issue with what seems to be a haphazard approach to moderation.

    I would see the point of pre-moderating users who have broken the rules in a deliberate, calculated and malicious manner. I did not see that happening on the crumble/gay kiss thread but in fact attempts to lighten a thread that had become bogged down with nature/nurture, unnatural/natural debates about the condition of human sexuality that had little reference to a plot in Eastenders.

    These moderation rules have not been implemented in the ongoing 'whinging Scots and arrogant English' threads.

    Anyway, I shall withdraw from this debate and hope that you continue to post and offer guidance and assistance.

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    Posted by DragonFluff (U6879248) on Saturday, 18th October 2008

    Sat, 18 Oct 2008 12:18 GMT, in reply to Lee in message 11

    The last time I enquired I was informed that people who have a query about this board should contact the hosts by email - via pov.hosts@bbc.co.uk. 

    Lee, I've e-mailed that address twice in the last couple of months with enquiries directly about the PoV Television board and what is on or off topic, and had no reply, not even an acknowledgement of my message.

    Fluff

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    Posted by DragonFluff (U6879248) on Saturday, 18th October 2008

    Sat, 18 Oct 2008 12:34 GMT, in reply to Lee in message 13

    In that case, Lee, I'll send future enquiries to the Central Communities Team, as there isn't anyone responding to the PoV.hosts e-mails. Hopefully they can clear up my confusion.

    I'm sorry, I didn't want to make this any more awkward for you than it obviously already is, and I hope this doesn't stop you from posting.

    Fluff

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    Posted by DragonFluff (U6879248) on Saturday, 18th October 2008

    Sat, 18 Oct 2008 12:28 GMT, in reply to Lee

    In that case, Lee, I'll send future enquiries to the Central Communities Team, as there isn't anyone responding to the PoV.hosts e-mails. Hopefully they can clear up my confusion.

    I'm sorry, I didn't want to make this any more awkward for you than it obviously already is, and I hope this doesn't stop you from posting.

    Fluff

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    Posted by JB (U11805502) on Saturday, 18th October 2008

    Anyone who has studied business administration will notice the habit of exercising power without responsibility and then delegating to your subordinates responsibility without power.

    See also Classic Neurotic Bad Management: 'First I Don't React, Then I Over-React.'

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