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    Posted by davidlloydthomas (U15584158) on Monday, 21st January 2013

    Could someone please explain why far more channels are available in the Midlands and North Wales than in the South Wales area.

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    Posted by DragonFluff (U6879248) on Monday, 21st January 2013

    Which channels can we get (here in N Wales) that you can't get in South Wales, David?

    I thought everyone could get the same Freeview channels, the only variation being the regional channels.

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    Posted by Peta (U24) on Monday, 21st January 2013


    Hi David

    You may need to retune your freeview box

    More information about this is available on the Freeview site

    www.freeview.co.uk/r...

    To get the most up to date service from Freeview it is important to retune from time to time.

    Check back here for significant events that require a retune such as a channel launch.

    Certain regions will also need to retune for technical reasons, from time to time.

    During 2013 changes are being made to the Freeview service in some areas that will require a retune (this is to clear the way for new services such as 4G mobile broadband).

    Check for scheduled retunes at your address below.

    If you still have issues with channels you may be able to get more help from Digital UK on 08456 50 50 50.  




    The Digital UK site is also very helpful - it currently says Latest News


    "Freeview viewers in parts of south Wales will need to retune their TV equipment on 23 January as local airwaves are cleared for the roll-out of faster mobile broadband."

    www.digitaluk.co.uk/...

    The precise areas of Wales effected by this are listed on this page

    www.digitaluk.co.uk/...




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    Posted by Peta (U24) on Monday, 21st January 2013


    This page shows you all the Channels that you should be getting - so have a look and let us know what you think might be missing!


    www.freeview.co.uk/C...

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    Posted by technologist (U1259929) on Tuesday, 22nd January 2013

    Which channels can we get (here in N Wales) that you can't get in South Wales, David?

    I thought everyone could get the same Freeview channels, the only variation being the regional channels.  


    If you are one of the 92% of the population who receive TV from
    one of the 84 main transmitters you will receive 6 bundle of Programmes (they are called Multiplexes or Muxes)
    however if you are one of the remaining 6% to 7% of population who receive from one of the over a thousand Relay transmitters you only receive the first Three Muxes which carry on the whole Public Service Broadcasters -
    ie. all the BBC SD (including Radio) (PSB1)
    ITV, Ch4 and Chanel five (Plus S4C ) (PSB2) - there are also some non PSB TV related to ITV and Ch4 etc...
    plus the HD channels. (PSB3 )

    It may be that David being in South Wales where there are lots of these relay transmitters can only get the the three PSB muxes.....
    see stakeholders.ofcom.o...
    compared to the rest of Wales stakeholders.ofcom.o...
    Main stations are underlined - Wenvoe is the main one for South Wales

    the Digital UK postcode checker with Detailed view selected www.digitaluk.co.uk/... is a good indication of what you can receive ...
    But you may need to move/ change the aerial to point at a main transmitter ..... if there is one which you can receive.

    The reason that there is this difference is that the channels who are carried on the three non PSB= commercial muxes cannot afford the extra cost of transmitting to a very few percent of population..... while the PSB had to meet the coverage of Analogue TV ( which they actually exceed)

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    Posted by DragonFluff (U6879248) on Tuesday, 22nd January 2013

    Technologist, has anyone ever told you that you are an asset to this board?

    Thanks for the information.

    Fluff

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    Posted by Sue_Aitch (U3336990) on Tuesday, 29th January 2013

    Technologist is the best.

    BBC One Wales HD is on air as of today

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    Posted by old git at 70 (U14213449) on Wednesday, 13th February 2013

    Which channels can we get (here in N Wales) that you can't get in South Wales, David?

    I thought everyone could get the same Freeview channels, the only variation being the regional channels.  


    If you are one of the 92% of the population who receive TV from
    one of the 84 main transmitters you will receive 6 bundle of Programmes (they are called Multiplexes or Muxes)
    however if you are one of the remaining 6% to 7% of population who receive from one of the over a thousand Relay transmitters you only receive the first Three Muxes which carry on the whole Public Service Broadcasters -
    ie. all the BBC SD (including Radio) (PSB1)
    ITV, Ch4 and Chanel five (Plus S4C ) (PSB2) - there are also some non PSB TV related to ITV and Ch4 etc...
    plus the HD channels. (PSB3 )

    It may be that David being in South Wales where there are lots of these relay transmitters can only get the the three PSB muxes.....
    see stakeholders.ofcom.o...
    compared to the rest of Wales stakeholders.ofcom.o...
    Main stations are underlined - Wenvoe is the main one for South Wales

    the Digital UK postcode checker with Detailed view selected www.digitaluk.co.uk/... is a good indication of what you can receive ...
    But you may need to move/ change the aerial to point at a main transmitter ..... if there is one which you can receive.

    The reason that there is this difference is that the channels who are carried on the three non PSB= commercial muxes cannot afford the extra cost of transmitting to a very few percent of population..... while the PSB had to meet the coverage of Analogue TV ( which they actually exceed)
     
    There should not be any cost for analogue signal as that ceased everywhere last year ,can the other muxes not be carried on the available space?

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    Posted by technologist (U1259929) on Wednesday, 13th February 2013

    There should not be any cost for analogue signal as that ceased everywhere last year ,can the other muxes not be carried on the available space? 

    In theory yes if it had been planned in .....
    (It would have been difficult to get everyone ..as we had 4 or 5 frquencies and need 6 per mast) )

    But the programme providers on those COM muxes were not prepared to pay for the thousand transmitters which are needed to cover the 5 or so % of population that cannot be covered by the 84 Transmitter which cover about 93% to 94%of Population..... (BTW 20 transmitters cover about 65% of which Crystal Palace is about 18%)

    So simple economics - they will not get enough money in to pay for the transmitters.

    So we moved from analogue with Five channels
    two BBC , two commercial PSB with 98% coverage plus Five which had about 70% population coverage (ie.e nothing much south of M4 ..)

    We now have in the digital world 10 BBC and 3 other PSB
    Viz
    SD 8 channel BBC PSB , and the other three PSB are still there but five has got 98.7% like the others .

    Plus 18 BBC radios and red button text and video

    Plus four HD - two BBC, ITV and Ch 4 and a hole because five will not pay for their service to be carried .... (losing the BBC lots of money).

    Plus the + 1 from ITV and Ch4
    Plus by some happenstance the 4 commercial non PSB channels ITV2. ITV3 More four and E4 ...

    and then 93+% also have lots more channels - see www.bbc.co.uk/dna/mb...



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    Posted by technologist (U1259929) on Wednesday, 13th February 2013

    Thanks for the appreciation Dragon fluff and Sue_Aitch
    I was into BBC and industry DTT etc in 1996....

    I got the last link wrong!
    the list of channels is www.bbc.co.uk/dna/mb...

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