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    Posted by oldmanriver (U14455170) on Monday, 1st October 2012

    Interesting article in the Guardian, particularly in the light of another investigative programme on an alternative channel.
    www.guardian.co.uk/m....
    Most interesting is the response of the BBC at the end........

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    Posted by zelda (U2012536) ** on Monday, 1st October 2012

    Why would the BBC be investigating JS in the first place. I thought there job was to report news? If there are any allegations made about somebody surely the police should do the investigating not journalists on the BBC.

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    Posted by oldmanriver (U14455170) on Monday, 1st October 2012

    Have a look at the article Zelda- he was being investigated by the police and he was an employee of the BBC.

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    Posted by zelda (U2012536) ** on Monday, 1st October 2012

    Have a look at the article Zelda- he was being investigated by the police and he was an employee of the BBC.  Sorry... I mis read the article. My apologies.

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    Posted by caissier (U14073060) on Tuesday, 2nd October 2012

    I have very little sympathy for the "victims" of Saville's alleged misdemeanours .  

    You are kidding, aren't you??

    He used his fund-raising to protect himself. There's also his voluntary hospital work. The BBC would do well to really sort this out or more will come out bit by bit. It's in the past so it would earn credit. It's a pity the Newsnight programme was stopped

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    Posted by Portly (U1381981) on Tuesday, 2nd October 2012

    I have very little sympathy for the "victims" of Saville's alleged misdemeanours .  

    Now then, now then! ;-)

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    Posted by oldmanriver (U14455170) on Tuesday, 2nd October 2012

    The BBC has to sort this out asap.The longer they sit on it and hope it goes away the worse it becomes. Yesterday another channel led their evening news on it, whereas on the BBC website it could only be found under their "Entertainment" section and only then mentioned briefly. Today on the BBC website it is not listed at all on the front page, not even under "other news". Ironic that under "other news" they cover a ridiculous item "Head in bin man had lost hat", but have not covered some of the important news. Only today have they shifted the investigation of Keith Vaz onto the front page, - whereas at the beginning of yesterday it didn't appear at all and then by lunchtime they hid it under "politics". No disrespect to Peta and her team who do a grand job under difficult circumstances when there are oldies like me wittering on, - but some serious sorting out needs to take place at the BEEB.

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    Posted by I Forget (U15411209) on Tuesday, 2nd October 2012

    Not true. What can they do? At the time, they thought that they couldn't take it any further because the CPS had decided not to take it any further for a lack of evidence. What are the BBC supposed to do? Take the evidence that the CPS has said is insufficient, and use it anyway? I am not sure that they could do that.

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    Posted by Peta (U24) on Tuesday, 2nd October 2012


    According to the Guardian article

    The BBC said: "It is absolutely untrue that the Newsnight investigation was dropped for anything other than editorial reasons.

    We have been very clear from the start that the piece was not broadcast because the story we were pursuing could not be substantiated.  


    The responsibility for investigations rests with the police, not the BBC.

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    Posted by puppydogeyes (U14659366) on Tuesday, 2nd October 2012

    To me it seems that the OP wants to start a discussion about allegations that have been speculated about in the press and in a programme on another channel that has yet to be seen and a Newsnight investigation that went nowhere

    So not about a BBC programme as nothing has been broadcast

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    Posted by ARENA (U3567614) on Tuesday, 2nd October 2012

    The BBC has to sort this out asap.The longer they sit on it and hope it goes away the worse it becomes. Yesterday another channel led their evening news on it, whereas on the BBC website it could only be found under their "Entertainment" section and only then mentioned briefly 

    It ISN'T news, It's wild speculation and what's more it cannot be proved.

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    Posted by oldmanriver (U14455170) on Tuesday, 2nd October 2012

    Of course the investigation lies with the police and there may well be another one to come after the programme, but the BBC has a responsibility to cover major stories in their news coverage, including ones where the BBC is mentioned in a negative way.

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    Posted by Peta (U24) on Tuesday, 2nd October 2012


    They are covering the story on the news pages

    www.bbc.co.uk/news/e...

    This story was obviously not seen to take priority over other current stories on the main home news page - the main one at the moment being a missing child.

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    Posted by DragonFluff (U6879248) on Tuesday, 2nd October 2012

    It ISN'T news, It's wild speculation and what's more it cannot be proved. 

    Serious allegations have been made against a popular radio and television presenter, well known for his work with children both on and off screen.

    The allegations may or may not be true, you may or may not believe them, but this /is/ news.

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    Posted by Rosemary (U7231409) on Tuesday, 2nd October 2012

    The BBC will be damned if they do and damned if they don't on this one, I'm afraid. If they re-broadcast reports in other media they'll be accused of adding fuel to the fire, if they don't, they'll be accused of chickening out.

    If - and only if - there is incontrovertible evidence of a crime having been committed by Mr Saville, then I feel very sorry for the victim/s. If not, I feel equally sorry for him and his family.

    In general, I would have felt less uneasy about the whole thing if the victims had accused the man while he was in a position to go on BBC - or indeed any other medum - to defend himself.

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    Posted by Phrasmotic 4 August 2012 (U5509534) on Tuesday, 2nd October 2012

    I have very little sympathy for the "victims" of Saville's alleged misdemeanours .  

    You are kidding, aren't you??

    He used his fund-raising to protect himself. There's also his voluntary hospital work. The BBC would do well to really sort this out or more will come out bit by bit. It's in the past so it would earn credit. It's a pity the Newsnight programme was stopped 
    Correct. None of us has been in the position - I hope and imagine - of suffering what victims of child sex abuse go through. Say, a 13 year old girl goes through it and is told "Don't tell anyone" by the perpetrator, who does she turn to if she is feeling humiliated and used? Suppose she does pluck up the courage to talk to another adult, will that person believe here, and if she has been the victim of a high profile celebrity, what then? While the perp keeps lying, the victim may suffer even more, with the risk that her name be dragged through the mud.

    I make no comment on what is alleged about Jimmy Savile, but nothing sums up the difficulties of different accounts more painfully than this sort of thing

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    Posted by ARENA (U3567614) on Tuesday, 2nd October 2012

    You cannot make 'serious allegations'about someone who is dead. They can not be substantiated and totally inadmissable in law.

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    Posted by DragonFluff (U6879248) on Tuesday, 2nd October 2012

    You cannot make 'serious allegations'about someone who is dead. 

    Of course you can.

    They can not be substantiated and totally inadmissable in law. 

    I am very aware of that fact.

    The fact that they have been made is news.

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    Posted by Phil-ap (U13637313) on Tuesday, 2nd October 2012

    Interesting article in the Guardian, particularly in the light of another investigative programme on an alternative channel.
    www.guardian.co.uk/m....
    Most interesting is the response of the BBC at the end........ 
    At least the TV companies have investigated this which is more than the Guardian has done.

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