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    Posted by Johnnymol (U14690244) on Tuesday, 31st May 2011

    Mr Moffat has decided to give the Daleks a "well earned break" But is this another case of BBC Ageism. I will expect the Daleks to test this decision out in court, and if that fails to go to the European Court <biggrin>

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    Posted by aviddiva (U13145965) on Tuesday, 31st May 2011

    Mr Moffat has decided to give the Daleks a "well earned break" But is this another case of BBC Ageism. I will expect the Daleks to test this decision out in court, and if that fails to go to the European Court <biggrin>  And if they're lucky, panellist work on The Wright Stuff!

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    Posted by langustine (U14767962) on Tuesday, 31st May 2011

    Question Time with Davros and a Panel of Daleks, Cybermen and other sorted special types, now that would be better.

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    Posted by billy_bumble (U14467942) on Tuesday, 31st May 2011

    Question Time with Davros and a Panel of Daleks, Cybermen and other sorted special types, now that would be better. 

    And this would be diferrent how?<winkeye>

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    Posted by Zeta (U3940759) on Tuesday, 31st May 2011

    Perhaps that hare could be replaced by a Dalek.

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    Posted by Testcard (U1164920) on Tuesday, 31st May 2011

    Presenting East Midlands Today?

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    Posted by dayraven (U13717520) on Tuesday, 31st May 2011

    And this would be diferrent how? 
    Discussions on the best method of tackling unemployment would at last give a proper airing to the "enslave the population of Earth and use them to build a doomsday weapon" perspective.

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    Posted by magnificentpolarbear (U1225328) on Tuesday, 31st May 2011

    The Daleks are on a freelance contract that does not guarentee them any work.

    It means they have the flexibility to pursue some of their other activities.

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    Posted by In moderation (U14261945) on Tuesday, 31st May 2011

    I would give the Cybermen a rest as well!

    Ooooppps, there in the episode on Saturday!

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    Posted by Eponymous Cowherd (U13748135) on Tuesday, 31st May 2011

    Despite reports to the contrary, it is the Daleks, themselves, who are refusing to appear.

    They are so embarrassed by their new plasticy Lego-esque appearance that they are refusing to show their sucker cups in public.

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    Posted by Johnnymol (U14690244) on Tuesday, 31st May 2011

    Despite reports to the contrary, it is the Daleks, themselves, who are refusing to appear.

    They are so embarrassed by their new plasticy Lego-esque appearance that they are refusing to show their sucker cups in public. 
    Perhaps they need to join a union <ok>

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    Posted by aviddiva (U13145965) on Wednesday, 1st June 2011

    Despite reports to the contrary, it is the Daleks, themselves, who are refusing to appear.

    They are so embarrassed by their new plasticy Lego-esque appearance that they are refusing to show their sucker cups in public. 
    Perhaps they need to join a union <ok> 
    They could state their case on Panorama!

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    Posted by Jasmine (U14646438) on Wednesday, 1st June 2011

    I like the idea they are evaluating the effectiveness of the Daleks.

    I'm unhappy as a fan it may be a while before we see them again, but out of five series so far...

    ECCLESTON SEASON:
    "Dalek" - Excellent. I cannot voice just how much I loved this episode, the goosebumps at the unveiling and the way the Doctor and the Dalek interact with one another made this a much more personal and unsettling battle than any other Dalek story thus far.

    Somehow, a Dalek story of just one Dalek is more effective in the same vein the lone broken down Cyberman was more effective than any number of Cybermen stomping around Parallel London.

    "Parting of the Ways" - The Daleks control mankind, they attack and alter the Earth, before being unleashed in what can only be described as a massacre on the Space Station, chilling stuff.

    TENANT SEASON 1:
    "Doomsday" - They could have been swapped with any generic who-villain, they fought the Cybermen, not much else to it except a playground question finally being answered.

    TENANT SEASON 2:
    "Evolution of the Daleks" - Oh dear.
    There were some fun ideas in this episode, but, it lacked the script and depth to the characters around them to make me care for them as much as other stories.

    The end product of Sechs on stage on hand and knee with a collar and chain and a set of wooden 'Time Lord Daleks' with Dalek Tommy Guns.

    Not my favorite moment ever.

    TENANT SEASON 3:
    "The Stolen Earth" - A nicer return to form for the Daleks, they nearly kill the Doctor, they nearly undo reality, they enslave and terrorise the world, as well as the destruction of the Valiant.

    But, still, this felt somehow stretched.

    The Supreme Dalek pokes his head out of his control room and is instantly slaughtered, every single character is adept at Dalek bashing, it felt somehow tiring, even Davros fought to keep it fresh, before suddenly we had three Doctors making Daleks spin in circles.

    SMITH SEASON 1:
    "Victory of the Daleks" - The Daleks return again in a personal battle with the Doctor rather than a dominate everything role, they're vulnerable, vengeful and cunning all at once.

    Yes, there were some silly fights with space waring spitfires and a clockwork man, and yes, maybe the Daleks redesigns of the Cushing era are a bit dated, even for nostalgia fans.


    So, fans are unhappy at the new appearance, people want them changed back, they're beginning to feel like panto villains...

    Truthfully? I liked the new direction of the Daleks in Smith's era, although I do so much prefer the Ironside version of the Daleks now, I truly wish we had more, maybe just one skittle dalek to act as the special role normally supplied by the Emperor, or Sechs, or Supreme.

    I certainly hope someone in the Moffat office reads through this, but I do hope they make their return sooner than later, that the Who-makers find a new stronger vein for those pestilant pepper pots we've all come to love and hate!

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    Posted by david fogarty (U14299453) on Wednesday, 1st June 2011

    I suppose they could always 'drag up' and appear in panto. Stand aside Biggins!

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    Posted by Piltdown (U6504098) on Wednesday, 1st June 2011

    So, fans are unhappy at the new appearance, people want them changed back,


    According to Private Eye the new model Daleks were the idea of BBC Worldwide, the BBC's marketing arm. They decided that they'd sold as many of the old style Dalek toys as they were ever going to and that if they were re-designed every kid would want one of the new type.

    I think it may have back fired as everybody seems to hate them.

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    Posted by Jasmine (U14646438) on Wednesday, 1st June 2011

    I'd be a little sad to think of them like that, I can certainly imagine them asking for a new Dalek toy they could make and the team deciding to take this route.

    Wouldn't it be wonderful to bring back the Mechanoids if the BBC wanted some new Dalek warring merchandise?

    Or how about the Daleks in other fiction, the Spider Daleks, or Special Weapon Daleks again?

    ...Is there even an Emperor Dalek playset yet?

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    Posted by Sploink (U9993613) on Wednesday, 1st June 2011

    New Model Daleks? They go back in time and are whipped into shape by Oliver Cromwell?

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    Posted by Jasmine (U14646438) on Wednesday, 1st June 2011

    Well, the Daleks have had a habit of buffering about time, how about a Bombadier Dalek to fit the role, that's essentially the Special Weapons one to a tee.

    That said, I do remember hearing about a Steampunk Dalek at one point.

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    Posted by Sploink (U9993613) on Wednesday, 1st June 2011

    I liked the Steampunk eps of DW, like the Talons of Weng Chiang, with the Peking Homunculus. I wish they'd do more like that.

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    Posted by Mr Magoo (U14438889) on Wednesday, 1st June 2011

    I wouldn't normally agree with Stephen Moffat, because I think he's a joke producer and a dire scriptwriter.

    But I'm afraid he's right where the Daleks are concerned. They're not scary and never have been really. The only time they did give me the frights was in Genesis of the Daleks, which was probably the best ever Dr Who story in the history of the programme.

    The fact they can now 'climb' stairs also adds to their silliness.

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