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    Posted by BlueTaz (U14716911) on ,

    As part of the “still to come..” bits on Breakfast this morning, the presenters kept referring the writers of Dr Who being extremely angry with the fans and apparently launching some sort of attack on them.

    Unfortunately, when they eventually reached this item, I had slipped out of the room and came back, just in time to hear some scruffy looking bloke with bright red hair saying that Moffet must have been extremely angry to have said what he said.

    Can anyone give me any more information about this particular little episode, please?

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    Posted by DragonFluff (U6879248) on ,

    www.bbc.co.uk/news/e...

    Sounds like this story, BlueTaz.

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    Posted by dayraven (U13717520) on ,

    Here's a version of the story with quotes:

    www.bbc.co.uk/news/e...

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    Posted by BlueTaz (U14716911) on ,

    Thanks, folks. I knew I could rely on the contributers of this board to provide the information.

    Reading the report, I can quite understand why he is feeling a little frustrated.

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    Posted by Campo-Espana (U14130844) on ,

    Perhaps the BBC themselves would stop trying to spoil all sorts of programmes for me by putting spoilers or "in the next episode"s immediately at the end of a programme, before I can get to the mute button and prior to the squeezed and talked-over credits which follow afore-mentioned spoilers.

    Don't they just know how to rile me!

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    Posted by dayraven (U13717520) on ,

    Perhaps the BBC themselves would stop trying to spoil all sorts of programmes for me by putting spoilers or "in the next episode"s immediately at the end of a programme, 
    Those are things which the BBC deliberately makes part of the viewing process, and not leaks, though.

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    Posted by Mr Magoo (U14438889) on ,

    Stephen Moffat wants to spend less time being angry with viewers and concentrate on his work.

    He wants to get grafting and write a proper story, instead of the puerile crap he's been churning out.

    I also note that he called Dr Who, 'my show'... <erm>

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    Posted by 4th Dimension Wanderer (U1461416) on ,

    Exec producer, main script writer - yup, his show, just as it was once RTD's show, JNT/Saward's show, Dicks/Letts show etc.

    He's right to have a go at people posting spoilers (without warning).

    The standards of his scripts, well, that's up to the individual to decide, personally I have very much enjoyed Doctor Who since he took over and continue to enjoy his scripts.

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    Posted by Johnnymol (U14690244) on ,

    You always get someone who will shout out the punchline to the joke you're telling. It's (peep) annoying .....and this is the equivalent

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    Posted by GusMcGuire (U7223549) on ,

    I think he's absolutely right.

    Problem is that so many other programmes release spoilers to generate interest in their programme that the whole concept is endemic throughout broadcasting. You can't go into a shop these days without seeing the magazine covers plastered with the latest story details: "Tragedy", "Shock affair", "Baby's secret father unmasked" or "machine gun-wielding maniac slaughters the entire population of Albert Square!!!!" (ok so that last one was wishful thinking). I can't remember the last time I watched a soap and thought "Wow! I never saw that coming!".

    Even the use of word "spoiler" entering common usage shows how conditioned we've become to accept this practice. Small wonder excitable viewers go running to the Internet with their details the first moment they can. Personally I wish the programme makers would all shut up about their future storylines. Avoiding plot details these days is like playing hopscotch in a minefield.

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    Posted by SE3177345 (U5255888) on ,

    A press viewing a bit different from the sort of promiscuous spoilerage some programmes "leak" though, and it was damned inconsiderate of whoever did this to blab about what they knew.

    Spoilers gleaned from casting calls and script "sides" (the bits of script used for casting, which might also contain information about established characters whose scenes happen to abut those used for casting) are circulated with some pride, especially in the US, but generally only where one can fully expect to find them. Dropping spoilers into a general discussion site is a no-no.

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    Posted by Rosemary (U7231409) on ,

    So can I. Leaking information about plot-lines seems to me to be a betrayal of trust. Not to mention disrespectful of the writers, actors and everyone else involved in producing the programme.

    Apart from anything else, what exactly is the point in doing it - except, of course, to show that you can?

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    Posted by Drsdaughter (U12521046) on ,

    I would buy the Doctor Who Magazine if I wanted to know everything. I have been trying to avoid spoilers as the programme is one of my favourites and I want to be surprised. I have enjoyed most of Steven Moffat's stories. I don't think that it is easy to write copious amounts of dialogue and keep an audience enraptured. It is the gift of a writer to make time fly swiftly and no two writers create the same work. I think that Steven Moffat is exceptional in that he has been engrossed by the tales of the Tardis since childhood and the rather wordy Target books were the only means by which fans could relive the adventures.
    Videos and DVDS create instant replays and the capacity to scrutinise every nuance. Wordy scripts are rewarding on second, third or fourth listen I don't know how many times I have had "The Eleventh Hour" on now. I enjoy the interplay between Little Amelia and the Doctor so much.
    Writing is a difficult business and I admire anyone who has the skill to provide entertainment on so many levels.

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    Posted by Eponymous Cowherd (U13748135) on ,

    I can understand why he's (Moffat) is annoyed and feels betrayed, but I have to say I think he's been somewhat naive.

    He invites some Dr Who nerds to a preview and is surprised when one of them leaks the plot?

    I don't know about you, but a stereotypical "fan" is the last person I'd trust with that kind of information.

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    Posted by Candidian (U14845628) on ,

    In this the best of all possible worlds everybody behaves in the best way possible and with the best possible motives. This best of all possible scenarios suggest it was the best of all possible leaks as much as it is the best of all possible programs. When is the BBC (or anybody for that matter) going to get round to doing "Candide"? Just leave the Doctor out of it please!

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    Posted by Derek the Drashig (U14852999) on ,

    They did it and broadcast it in early 1973.

    Ian Ogilvy was Candide, Angela Richards was Cunegonde, Frank Finlay was Voltaire and Emrys James was Dr. Pangloss. Directed by, and screenplay written by James MacTaggart.

    Apart from Dr Pangloss, not a doctor in sight.

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    Posted by magnificentpolarbear (U1225328) on ,

    some fans had been invited (as a competion prize on the BBC Dr Who page) to the press preview of the 1st two episodes of the new season. I applied and didn;t win.

    Apparently one fan decided to basically write a blow by blow account of the story etc and then posted this on-line and with no 'spoiler alert;

    This is totally different to the press (and indeed the BBC) dropping hints of yet to appear plots to encourage people to watch.

    It was the action of a 'fan' that he was so angry about as essntially this person who loves the programme so much decided that he could just ignore a request NOT to reveal anything.

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    Posted by aviddiva (U13145965) on ,

    Stephen Moffat wants to spend less time being angry with viewers and concentrate on his work.

    He wants to get grafting and write a proper story, instead of the puerile crap he's been churning out.

    I also note that he called Dr Who, 'my show'... <erm> 
    Mr. Magoo - is Stephen Moffat suffering from a touch of the Michael Parkinsons here?

    Parky called the chat show he was lucky to get (after Simon Dee was dropped) 'my show', and now he advertises insurance on another channel.

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    Posted by megamain (U12800305) on ,

    lol @ Dr Who fans

    <laugh>

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