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    Posted by rowan (U199016) on Tuesday, 3rd March 2009

    Morning everyone Ė Since I joined your forces before Christmas it seems to me that there have been two regular issues which come up quite often.

    The first is that sometimes people donít understand moderation decisions, which I know makes them a bit annoying for some folk. If you have a serious query then do email pov.hosts@bbc.co.uk and Iíll try and look into it Ė although please be sensible with what you send! Thereís only me to go through it and Iím not on call all the time like our lovely mods, so be prepared to wait a little bit and only send things which are genuinely baffling. For those who do get annoyed, please do remember that mods are human, mistakes can be made and theyíre here to help things carry on as smoothly as possible.

    The second is more meaty Ė the mighty topic of off topic!

    Quite a lot of people here have encouraged me to do something about the amount of off topic conversation (outside of the Green Room thread) which we have here. So today Iím going to try and start a new on topic era for us all!

    Iíd like to try and explain why we have off topic rules here, as some people feel that itís about censorship. Off topic rules are not about censorship, theyíre about creating spaces which have clearly defined on topic issues. They should help us create focused, high quality spaces where the BBCís audience can talk about things which concern them.

    I realise that what with TV being our topic here, that opens lots of grey areas as to what is and what isnít on/off topic. So here are some guidelines for us all:

    - Talking about the actual topics in the news or brought up by a programme = off topic.
    Talking about the news programme itself is fine, but this isnít the right place for talking about news topics. For example, today the Sri Lankan cricket team story is off topic here.

    - Issues concerning the broadcast of news on TV and actual programmes themselves = on topic.
    So for example talking about Top Gearís Vietnam special is great, getting into details about current affairs around Vietnam or Vietnamese/American politics is off topic here.

    - Issues around people who are TV related, but arenít actually talking about TV itself = off topic.
    So itís fine to talk about The One Show for example, and also what losing Carol Thatcher from the programme meant, but the topic of her off air remarks is off topic here as itís not actually about TV.

    So from now it would be great if youíd all try and stay on topic, I know sometimes it's difficult but if you see an original post which is way off topic, don't reply to it! I wonít close threads unless they carry on being off topic, and Iíll post a link to this comment where necessary. I really hope that this helps to create a more focused atmosphere for us all, and that youíll be patient while we see how it goes. Thanks everyone!

    PS Ė Hereís the thread where weíve talked about the above www.bbc.co.uk/dna/mb...

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    Posted by justpolina (U6637834) on Tuesday, 3rd March 2009

    Rowan, I'm sorry but I don't support this.

    I'll try to stick by the rules but I think the definitions are way too narrow and will stultify debate, which after all is the only reason we're on here - noone is under any illusion it will make any difference.

    Is replying to this thread in itself off topic?

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    Posted by U13804688 (U13804688) on Tuesday, 3rd March 2009

    glad to see this move isnt about censorship..d'oh (oops is commenting on your post on topic or not ??)
    ps has this idea came from discussions with nick reynolds ???

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    Posted by Gizmomoo (U10999499) on Tuesday, 3rd March 2009

    Well done Rowan.

    Will the off topic threads in exsistence at the moment be closed? I've seen your gentle nudge on the Jade Goody thread, but fear it will be ignored as it has been previously.

    Replying to this thread bumps it up so it will stay at the top, for everyone to see.

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    Posted by rowan (U199016) on Tuesday, 3rd March 2009

    Nope, it's all mine (but at the request of quite a few members here). I don't think that we will become boring here, let's see how it goes, I'm not introducing a police state but hoping for more understanding and appreciation of on topic around the TV topic.

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    Posted by justpolina (U6637834) on Tuesday, 3rd March 2009

    I just hope the rules will be used wisely.... just smacks of Let's make this board so dull that everyone will leave and Nick can have his beastly blogs without interference.

    Another bump!

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    Posted by dalmatina (U13475252) on Tuesday, 3rd March 2009

    I know sometimes it's difficult but if you see an original post which is way off topic, don't reply to it! 

    So if it's off-topic AND inaccurate, we are not to challenge it?

    Some of what is posted is not stated as opinion, but as fact, and I do sometimes ask for a source, otherwise that's how myths are perpetuated.

    Sorry if this is off-topic ...

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    Posted by rowan (U199016) on Tuesday, 3rd March 2009

    gizmomoo - I think that where topics continue in an off topic vein then I'll ask people to stop with a view to closure if people ignore it - does that sound sensible?

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    Posted by starbuck (U10546834) on Tuesday, 3rd March 2009

    the mighty topic of off topic!  

    you mean, like that truly awful thread, the jade goody thread? not only has it got nothing to do with any tv programme, it has long ago become a slanging match not only against goody, but amongst posters, but the mods deem it is not fit for removal, despite numerous requests.
    it truly is a quite sickening thread.

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    Posted by jaydeelewis (U10539398) on Tuesday, 3rd March 2009

    I support what rowan has proposed, it sounds very reasonable.
    I hate it when threads become personal slanging matches about politics etc. <ok>

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    Posted by rowan (U199016) on Tuesday, 3rd March 2009

    dalmatina - Personally, as a poster rather than a host, I find the best way to deal with things which are inappropriate is to use the alert buttong - bring it to the mods attention and let it fall away without making into massive thing. It's just a suggestion really.

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    Posted by cricket-Angel twinkly lights Tucker (U3382697) on Tuesday, 3rd March 2009

    Is it completely unreasonable to ask for a Green Room Board?

    We've seen how popular (oft unwieldy and rapid) the Green Room Thread is. Could we not have a whole board for off topic stuff?

    Then the cricket thread could be moved there! :-D

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    Posted by Gizmomoo (U10999499) on Tuesday, 3rd March 2009

    gizmomoo - I think that where topics continue in an off topic vein then I'll ask people to stop with a view to closure if people ignore it - does that sound sensible? 

    Yes it does sound sensible, however sometimes this board is not sensible. You've asked them a couple of times to get on topic there, and they are not. That thread NEVER fitted into your own discription of on topic, (neither does the Cricket thread, the feed the birds thread nor others). I think it may cause confusion if something is allowed to be off topic "for a bit".

    In the end though Rowan, it's a BBC board, you're the BBC host, the BBC sets the rules.

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    Posted by rowan (U199016) on Tuesday, 3rd March 2009

    I shall try and be as clear as possible then gizmomoo.

    Thanks for all of your thoughts, and support, I'll put forward the idea of an off topic board when the new plans start to take clearer shape.

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    Posted by Quizzimodo (U551071) on Tuesday, 3rd March 2009

    Will you be dealing with spamming?

    Rickon (& Beamer before him) have started numerous threads on the same subject

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    Posted by SometimesInvisiblePoster (U9636067) on Tuesday, 3rd March 2009

    rowan host
    I have noticed that the number of apparently one off posters who ask a question and then disappear seems to be on the increase.
    Some have their posts on the board almost immediately and are apprently not being in the usual new posters pre mod.
    I have seen at least three this moring.
    Can we please find out why?
    I am not saying that their posts shouldn't be allowed but I am suspicious as to who they are and why the rules apparently don't apply.
    If you want an example check out the OP on the Dominic Littlewood thread. Posted 16 hours ago and appeared 16 hours ago so if that person is new, no pre mod.
    Maybe the poster will return but if it follows the pattern of the others then I very much doubt it.

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    Posted by cricket-Angel twinkly lights Tucker (U3382697) on Tuesday, 3rd March 2009

    I quite like Rowan's pervious take on off-topicness. She seemed to be relatively OK with it as long as it did not turn nasty - which neither the Cricket nor the Feed the Birds threads have done.

    I understand the need for rules. But a bit of leeway fosters openness and community spirit too.

    I'll just say again that a Points Askewesque Green Room Board would be a good way of getting EVERYTHING off topic off this board. That would, though, probably require an extra Host. any volunteers? :-)

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    Posted by Quizzimodo (U551071) on Tuesday, 3rd March 2009

    'll put forward the idea of an off topic board 


    We had one.
    It was called "Points Askew" & it was closed.
    Cost presumably

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    Posted by TVMad (U1713371) on Tuesday, 3rd March 2009

    A good move Rowan, but how will this handle those posters who stay on topic yet are obviously trolls/wind-up merchants who have nothing better to do than de-rail a thread?

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    Posted by SometimesInvisiblePoster (U9636067) on Tuesday, 3rd March 2009

    Rowanhost
    Here's another classic example and anything to do with JR should have been moderated.
    www.bbc.co.uk/dna/mb...

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