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  • Message 1. 

    Posted by zl_bbc (U14552627) on Tuesday, 9th October 2012

    I've found out some information on the internet what the word "stakeholders" mean.
    Can I say that in my words like so?

    "Stakeholders are people e.g. in a company who have the same interest that can be to meet the production plan. Stakeholders in this case are employers, managers, customers."

    Is it correctly said?

    Thanks

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    Posted by Hattie (U14841294) on Tuesday, 9th October 2012

    I must say it is not because the definition given in your first sentence is too restrictive. Your second sentence wriggles with the 'in this case' but it is too little and too late to counter the first.
    Know that there are different meanings and uses for the word 'stake' and then have a look at the dictionary entry at:
    oxforddictionaries.c...
    Now look at item 2 at:
    oxforddictionaries.c...

    If you still have questions you know where to ask them! smiley - smiley

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  • Message 3

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    Posted by zl_bbc (U14552627) on Tuesday, 9th October 2012

    Thank you, Hattie.
    What is a problem?
    I am studying a job offer. There is written in a job description:

    "You will have effective interpersonal communication skills working directly with all key stakeholders, whilst also having a good standard of IT skills in Word, Excel and email. "

    I was curious what does "stakeholders" mean here. I always thought that "stakeholders" and "shareholders" are the same and they buy and sell shares / stocks. After I had read this:
    www.investopedia.com...
    I've found out that "stakeholders" are not "shareholders" and that there is another term "stockholders"="shareholders".
    I suppose that buying and selling of shares or stocks is not the point in this job offer and it could be the second meaning of "stakeholders" in this job offer.
    I've rephrased in my words what I've found on the internet and about this is my previous question. I will continue tomorrow.

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  • Message 4

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    Posted by zl_bbc (U14552627) on Thursday, 11th October 2012

    This is a job offer I study ( it is not for me, I only learn new terms).
    www.westsussex.gov.u...

    My first message was about the "stakeholders" mentioned in this job offer.
    I rephrased one of the meanings of "stakeholders" into my words. I only meant this "stakeholders" in this text.
    ~~~~
    Under the term stakeholders in this company I understand people who have the same interest , i.e. all key stakeholders in this case are employers, managers, customers.
    I suppose that in this case it is not to meet the production plan, but provide good service.
    ~~~~

    Is the rephrasing between ~....~total wrong?

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  • Message 5

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    Posted by Hattie (U14841294) on Thursday, 11th October 2012

    Is the rephrasing between ~....~total wrong? 
    Just for your interest the ~ is called, in English, the tilde. howjsay.com/index.ph...

    No, the rephrasing is not totally wrong but there again it isn't totally right either. More to the point, you still haven't properly understood the meaning of 'stakeholder'. A stakeholder is one who has something at stake. Employers, managers and customers may all have something at stake and that something may, ultimately, be dependent on 'good service'. But I ask you, is it true to say they each have 'good service' at stake? I doubt it can be properly described as "the same interest". The interest (or 'stake') of the customers in particular is likely to be very different from that of employers and managers.
    But, if I recall, the original job offer simply refers to 'stakeholders' and leaves the reader to decide who or what they are. And that is, as outlined above, simply those who have something at risk in the enterprise. That would include all those who depend on the success of the enterprise and may extend to customers who may depend on timely delivery of whatever the enterprise provides.

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  • Message 6

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    Posted by zl_bbc (U14552627) on Thursday, 11th October 2012

    Thank you very much for this clear explanation.
    But I am still not sure who are "all key stakholders" in this "Care Commissioning Team". I understand only that "Care Commissioning Assistant" will work with them.

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  • Message 7

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    Posted by Hattie (U14841294) on Thursday, 11th October 2012

    But I am still not sure who are "all key stakeholders" in this "Care Commissioning Team". I understand only that "Care Commissioning Assistant" will work with them. 

    "You will have effective interpersonal communication skills working directly with all key stakeholders, whilst also having a good standard of IT skills in Word, Excel and email."

    Simply put, ZL, the nature or identity of 'all key stakeholders' is not given. As for the "Care Commissioning Assistant" working with them I think it possible that, at least in some cases, it will be 'working FOR them'.

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  • Message 8

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    Posted by zl_bbc (U14552627) on Thursday, 11th October 2012

    O.K. Hattie.
    I don't want to analyse it more. I try the last question. Are some of these "stakeholders" customers and care agencies?

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  • Message 9

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    Posted by zl_bbc (U14552627) on Thursday, 11th October 2012

    Is it tiresome, tiring and always the same, isn't it?smiley - smiley

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  • Message 10

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    Posted by Hattie (U14841294) on Thursday, 11th October 2012

    Are some of these "stakeholders" customers and care agencies? 
    Fair question in the circumstances. One which could be reasonably raised at the job interview. In the meantime you should, simply for safety sake, assume that they are.

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  • Message 11

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    Posted by zl_bbc (U14552627) on Thursday, 11th October 2012

    Hattie, thank you very much for all you answers and your patience with me.

    I know that Google isn't always precise, but it translated "stakeholders" in my language as "the involved parties" and this probably caused my confusion.

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