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  • Message 1. Posted by Simon (U14134653) on Thursday, 8th April 2010 permalink

    Two amazing products, both leading the world in Media development and entertainment - and they don't talk to each other! It's like never putting clotted cream on a scone, or an Ariel on your TV, not allowing petrol to meet the internal combustion engine

    Fabulous this is NOT! - this I know, because my newly imported Ipad is doing nothing on the iplayer site, other than telling me it won't work! Misery and frustration will follow at the of April when the UK see's the release of what is beautifully designed product.

    So BBC, when is the world's leading broadcaster going to resolve this situation?

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  • Message 2. Posted by matt (U8621220) on Thursday, 8th April 2010 permalink

    Because the iPad isn't actually out yet, there isn't anything for the BBC to support.

    Not sure if it will be the same for things like the iPad as it is with the Wii, but it seems that only Wii's that have been bought in the UK work with iPlayer.

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  • Message 3. Posted by The Phazer (U815970) on Thursday, 8th April 2010 permalink

    Apple's fault for not including Flash.

    Phazer

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  • Message 4. Posted by Simon (U14134653) on Thursday, 8th April 2010 permalink

    Not sure it's that simple really ... surely it's about the Beeb looking at the developing market place and servicing it appropriately... new innovation, new and developing standards. Without which we'd still all be using V2000, Video Disc and 40 Track High Density Floppy Discs... when a technology moves in a certain way - especially one as powerful as Apple, it's the support / service /consumer industries responsibility to service it appropriately ?

    Isn't the whole thing about user choice? Microsoft can't have a monopoly on browser... can Adobe hold a country to ransom over an online video format?

    If I've paid my licence fee don't I have the right to choose in which way i wish to access the online content provided?

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  • Message 5. Posted by matt (U8621220) on Thursday, 8th April 2010 permalink

    Apple make it difficult for the BBC to provide services like iPlayer on their devices because they won't license their DRM system to anyone else. Without DRM, content providers won't let the BBC make their content available.

    Flash does provide content protection, so if Apple had included Flash, this would have given the BBC a solution to work with.

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  • Message 6. Posted by Simon (U14134653) on Thursday, 8th April 2010 permalink

    They seemed able to find a work around for ipod touch and iphone?

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  • Message 7. Posted by SpangledLondon (U14414614) on Thursday, 8th April 2010 permalink

    The iPad hasn't been released in the UK yet - and iPlayer only works in the UK.

    Once the iPad is released in the UK - within the next few weeks - then iPlayer will be enabled on the device, accessing it over wi-fi via Safari like on an iPhone or iPod touch.

    A separate iPlayer app for the iPhone/iPad is also in development:

    www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/...

    which should, I would imagine, also offer 3G access and the ability to download programmes for offline viewing.

    However, the BBC Trust, in their infinite wisdom, have stalled the release of BBC iPhone apps for competition reasons - so who knows when the iPlayer app will launch...

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  • Message 8. Posted by Simon (U14134653) on Thursday, 8th April 2010 permalink

    Is that spoken as informed fact? or opinion of what might/ should or probably will happen?

    As for the App, my understanding was that the Trust didn't take that decision independently, more that like Kangaroo, the decision was questioned at government levels.

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  • Message 9. Posted by The Phazer (U815970) on Thursday, 8th April 2010 permalink

    If I've paid my licence fee don't I have the right to choose in which way i wish to access the online content provided?


    No, you don't actually.

    Indeed, if you live in the UK and have to pay a licence fee (say because you can recieve ITV) you don't even have any right to get a broadcast signal of the BBC channels through an ariel.

    The licence fee is a tax on television recieving equipment. That the government uses it to fund the BBC isn't terribly relevant.

    Phazer

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  • Message 10. Posted by Simon (U14134653) on Thursday, 8th April 2010 permalink

    Think about what you're saying, semantics, it's like arguing certain vehicles can't drive on the motorway but you should just put up with it, as the Government just tax the equipment and decided to USE it for roads.... surely this Blog can be more productive and discussion of the issues of the day rather continual micro examination of the wording used by people making valid points ( i'm just referring to my posting). Correct fact with pleasure, but perhaps offer your thoughts to the relevance of the correction to the subject matter....

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  • Message 11. Posted by Onslow The Cat (U13672446) on Thursday, 8th April 2010 permalink

    Think about what you're saying, semantics


    The UK Licence Fee is a tax on your TV. You don't need one if you don't receive live (or record live) TV broadcasts.

    Other than that iPlayer is a service which you may (or may not) receive on various platforms. You don't need a TV Licence to receive it, and there is currently no UK law requiring the BBC to make iPlayer available on any device you nominate.

    If you buy an internet connected device my advice would be to ask if you can get iPlayer on it first, rather than just assuming it will be available.

    <blackcat>


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  • Message 12. Posted by Simon (U14134653) on Thursday, 8th April 2010 permalink

    I'm hardly suggesting lobbying my MP, or it becoming an election point, or as for your advice, noted, I'll remind myself to be sure to ask.

    I may also to ask before I pose questions in a blog environment, if the users of it would be interested in throwing around the topic, or would prefer to throw around dissection of legality, inference and give sarcastic answers like "If you buy an internet connected device my advice would be to ask if you can get iPlayer on it first, rather than just assuming it will be available."

    Thanks for all the useful responses, I feel so much better informed, supported with all my thoughts discussed.... well done people....

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  • Message 13. Posted by Onslow The Cat (U13672446) on Thursday, 8th April 2010 permalink

    well done people....


    Simon you asked for facts. Now you've got some.

    <blackcat>

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  • Message 14. Posted by SpangledLondon (U14414614) on Friday, 9th April 2010 permalink

    Access to iPlayer on an iPad via Safari (like the iPhone) will def be available. It might not be available the exact day that the iPad launches here but will be within a few weeks. It's a relatively straightforward implementation.

    As re: the app - just speculation on my part. But I'd be surprised if downloading of content is not available, otherwise you may just as well continue to access iPlayer via Safari.

    As re: the Trust and apps - pressure came from the Newspaper Publishers Association, not the government:

    www.guardian.co.uk/m...

    which basically translates as Rupert Murdoch getting his knickers in a twist as he bids to monetise web access to his rags.

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  • Message 15. Posted by EggOnAStilt (U7111730) on Friday, 9th April 2010 permalink

    <racket1>answers like,"If you buy an internet connected device my advice would be to ask if you can get iPlayer on it first, rather than just assuming it will be available."<racket2>

    Hang on, if you are intending it to use with a HD TV and have a very specific purpose for it then absolutely I would ask. Sarcastic or not, I did use a smiley, it's sound advice for anyone else pondering a purchase with an end goal.

    Along the lines of "Caveat emptor"<tennisball>

    And that was me throwing around my idea on what you were discussing, for others not just you.:)

    <friedegg>

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  • Message 16. Posted by The Phazer (U815970) on Friday, 9th April 2010 permalink

    Access to iPlayer on an iPad via Safari (like the iPhone) will def be available. It might not be available the exact day that the iPad launches here but will be within a few weeks. It's a relatively straightforward implementation.


    Do you know if the BBC has got any rights to do this yet?

    I don't think this is at all a given.

    At all.

    Phazer

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  • Message 17. Posted by Simon (U14134653) on Thursday, 15th April 2010 permalink

    IT's HERE!!!! IT WORKS

    Iplayer has landed for the Ipad... Video qaulity is amzing, the inferace is a little different from laptop or Iphone/Touch..... but come on..... good job beeb....

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  • Message 18. Posted by chocolatly-mouse (U14438794) on Tuesday, 27th April 2010 permalink

    OMG you have an iPad!!! I want one soo much!!!

    Love to the one with the iPad <3

    XXX :) XXX

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