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iPlayer for Android??

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  • Message 1. Posted by KC (U14034714) on Sunday, 14th June 2009 permalink

    Is there any prospect of the iPlayer being made available for the Android phone operating system as well as windows mobile and Symbian/S60 ? I recently bought a Magic to replace my ageing windows-based pda and am REALLY missing the ability to download/watch programs from the Beeb.

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  • Message 2. Posted by Dingledoodie (U7859362) on Wednesday, 24th March 2010 permalink

    I agree. I really miss iPlayer on my phone. I used to have a Nokia but now have an Android phone and iPlayer is the only thing missing to make it perfect. There's BeebPlayer, but it's not very reliable nor as user friendly as the official app.

    Still no word???

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  • Message 3. Posted by Azurren (U14398146) on Wednesday, 24th March 2010 permalink

    It's sad really.
    What I have heard is that because most new android devices have flash support pre-installed and older android devices are getting flash soon these sort of apps will not be made for android devices.

    It's not just the BBC either (Hopefully I'm wrong about them and they'll bring one out soon) many flash video streaming sites aren't planning on making apps for android solely because they are getting / got flash.

    So.. iPhone users get an app because Apple DON'T WANT flash yet android users don't get an app because Google supports their users.

    Just on a side note, 3 people (other than myself) own an android device in my college class (of 15) whereas No one in my entire course group (over 100) owns an iPhone.. Just thought I would throw that out there.

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  • Message 4. Posted by Researcher 14413210 (U14413210) on Wednesday, 7th April 2010 permalink

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  • Message 5. Posted by Robin (U14409136) on Wednesday, 7th April 2010 permalink

    "most new android devices have flash support pre-installed and older android devices are getting flash soon these sort of apps will not be made for android devices"

    It doesn't seem to be quite that simple.

    I've just bought an HTC Desire with Flash built in. Although I can watch YouTube & BBC News on it, the iPlayer still won't work properly.

    There seems to be something non-standard about iPlayer.

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  • Message 6. Posted by Wally (U14414065) on Thursday, 8th April 2010 permalink

    Which browser does Android use?

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  • Message 7. Posted by Brian (U14305381) on Friday, 21st May 2010 permalink

    Another vote for a BBC iPlayer application for Android.

    I'd much rather have the real deal than a sub standard experience.

    For what it's worth, the number of people I know with Android phones now outnumbers the friends with iPhones.

    I'd just getting a Desire & loads of people at work seem to be as well.

    The iPhone iPlayer files are almost good enough. The video & audio encoding is fine, but Android just doesn't like the MOV container.

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  • Message 8. Posted by Alan Tucker (U14481772) on Wednesday, 26th May 2010 permalink

    This is definitely what Android devices need, however, as the iPhone currently has about 99%, i'm exaggerating, of the smartphone market in the UK we probably won't see it on Android at all.

    Go on BBC prove me wrong, release iPlayer for Android!!!!

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  • Message 9. Posted by Robin (U14409136) on Thursday, 27th May 2010 permalink

    There is a new version of Android (2.2 - nickname Froyo) just released which should be coming to the HTC Desire and other phones soon.

    It includes Flash 10.1 (latest release) which should behave just like Flash on your PC browser, i.e. you should be able to use the iPlayer on your phone just as you would on your PC.

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  • Message 10. Posted by Alan Tucker (U14481772) on Friday, 28th May 2010 permalink

    That's not the point though, you need an application to be able to download the programs, assuming you'd want to.

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  • Message 11. Posted by faz (U14515785) on Sunday, 13th June 2010 permalink

    I think the bbc has an obligation to make sure their development cash (our tax) is not biased to one type of community. Fine if flash works (when we eventually get flash. )But not fine if it drains the battery and heats up your phone like its been claimed

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  • Message 12. Posted by John99 (U13871221) on Sunday, 13th June 2010 permalink

    There are probably several android related threads on the messageboard already.

    I also not BBC has commented recently in the Blogs, although I am not sure I noticed any BBC comment on the messageboard.

    One of the recent threads:
    "Android!" - www.bbc.co.uk/dna/mb...

    And the most recent BBC comment I have stumbled across:

    re. iBBC iPlayer beta: Still no Android support,, especially bad after booting the unofficial app off #BBCiPlayerfeedback @nevali via Twitter

    I appreciate there's some strong feelings on this subject too. We're currently waiting on Flash support on Android to deliver a service for that platform. I understand this is coming in the not_too_distant_future - watch this space for further announcements. I know there's a lot of demand for an app too - we're waiting to hear from the BBC Trust soon on whether we're allowed to do apps, so we look forward to seeing the result of that decision. { www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/... ]

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  • Message 13. Posted by marcdraco (U3343840) on Monday, 14th June 2010 permalink

    There is an app now to bridge Flash to iPlayer for Android although it's still in beta.

    I'm more troubled by the way the BBC is using Twitter (and lesser degree, Facebook) - even on iPlayer now.

    Both are privately funded, for profit organisations, and this is completely against the BBC's charter - so we're paying for the BBC to promote American products. Not good.

    They forget (conveniently) that there are non-commercial, open source alternatives.

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  • Message 14. Posted by Eponymous Cowherd (U13748135) on Thursday, 17th June 2010 permalink

    I see that BeebPlayer has been removed from the market and the, usually verbose, developer has left a terse message on his blog to that effect.

    The unexpected removal, terse message from the developer and his refusal to answer questions regarding the removal on his blog suggests that he has been asked to remove it (and not discuss the removal) by (I assume) the BBC.

    Could anyone from the BBC confirm or deny this? If the BBC did, indeed, ask the developer to remove BeebPlayer from the market, are there any plans for the BBC to provide iPlayer support for non-Flash capable phones that BeebPlayer previously supported?

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  • Message 15. Posted by Bean_Counter (U14523221) on Thursday, 17th June 2010 permalink

    Can I ask a BBC techie why the Android browser is prohibited from accessing the same format files as the iphone?
    It seems a waste of not to provide access when the content is already coded. Safari (webkit) is OK, Android Browser (webkit) isn't/
    What gives?

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  • Message 16. Posted by Guv-nor (U7476305) on Thursday, 17th June 2010 permalink

    DRM gives.

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  • Message 17. Posted by SKFscotLAD (U14547360) on Friday, 9th July 2010 permalink

    I'm against DRM and other closed source restrictive technologies but surely there could be some kind of plungin that'll allow Android devices to handle DRM content from the BBC. Even better if they created an app that way they could allow Android users to view programs while still keeping control of the content without fear of it being copied or redistributed.

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  • Message 18. Posted by wolfy35 (U14554282) on Thursday, 15th July 2010 permalink

    Android is owned and developed by Google. The inbuilt browser is Google Chrome lite

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  • Message 19. Posted by Dingledoodie (U7859362) on Sunday, 25th July 2010 permalink

    iPlayer and now a News app for 'i' products? Nothing for Android devices? The BBC is VERY Apple-centric. Not all license payers are Apple customers. Grrr...

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  • Message 20. Posted by Eponymous Cowherd (U13748135) on Tuesday, 27th July 2010 permalink

    The BBC have made a serious misjudgement with their decision to roll out iPlayer for Android as a Flash application. There are a number of mid-range Android based phones, including some recent releases (e.g HTC Wildfire) that are powered by ARMv6 based processors which will *never* be able to run Adobe Flash (which is only compatible with ARMv7 based phones) and, therefore, will never be able to run Android iPlayer, irrespective of whether they run the latest version of Android.

    Essentially, the BBC's policy regarding the roll-out of iPlayer on Android is restricting access to those with new, high-end (i.e. expensive) Android devices while ignoring those with older or mid-low end devices.

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