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I want to access and save archived radio programmes such as 'In Our Time' to my Sony walkman. However I cannot work out how to do this. When I access the programme it tries to open a realplayer player and there is no option to sync it with the Walkman. Can anyone let me know how to get the prog onto my Walkman? Thanks in advance.
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No, you can't. There's no legal allowance to do it, and the BBC don't buy the rights to do so.
You can download podcasts - that's the point of them.
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Thanks. understood.
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If you have a program like NetTransport or Orbit Downloader, you can easily download the RealAudio file.
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If you have a program like NetTransport or Orbit Downloader, you can easily download the RealAudio file.
But it is illegal to do so within the UK.
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How on earth is it illegal?
It's not illegal to record radio programmes via your TV or your computer (just like it's not illegal to record TV programmes); I don't see how saving a RealAudio stream is any different.This is a reply to this message.
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It's not illegal to record radio programmes via your TV or your computer (just like it's not illegal to record TV programmes); I don't see how saving a RealAudio stream is any different.
It is illegal in the UK to make any form of copy of a copyrighted work without permission (which you don't have) or if it falls under the copyright exemptions.
The Copyright, Designs and Patents Act 1988 (as modified by the Copyright and Related Rights Regulations 2003) creates and exception that you are allowed to record *broadcasts* for the purpose of reasonable timeshifting (not format shifting). However, this does not apply to on demand streams as under the act they aren't broadcasts - to be a broadcast they have to be formally scheduled by a distributor at preset time.
Hence, no exception, hence it's illegal.
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However, this does not apply to on demand streams as under the act they aren't broadcasts - to be a broadcast they have to be formally scheduled by a distributor at preset time.
There seems to be quite a few copyright police on this board. I sometimes wonder what their motive is.
Anyway have a search for the court case of Shetland Times Ltd v Jonathan Wills, where it would appear that a website was in fact deemed to a cable service and thus fell under the act.
The act is 20 years old any open to all sorts of interpretation, and probably best left to the courts and not amateur sleuths, like myself.This is a reply to this message.
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Hello jsoap,
There is an FAQ here iplayerhelp.external...
Pointing out the law of the land seems normal behaviour I would have thought.
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In addition, I should point out that by using BBC iPlayer you agree to the terms and conditions, including section 12 iplayerhelp.external...
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On the other hand, when it comes to certain areas of copyright and intellectual property law, the law is an ass.
For instance, more than half of the UK adult population are copyright criminals freely walking about (some of them are probably re-offending regularly) who have broken the Copyright, Designs and Patents Act 1988 because they have ripped a CD that they legally own.
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The Faqs are interesting also. An on-demand service, would make time-shifting unnecessary, However it's a time limited service, so one could argue that time-shifting would fall within fair use.
My point is that the situation is not a cut and dried as some would like us to believe, and the tone which brands customers as malicious criminals, is totally over the top.
Even in the faqs the line
must use technology to prevent programmes being copied and distributed illegally
seems a bit irellevant to the typical viewer who missed the last gripping episode of Flog It.This is a reply to this message.
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Yes ... but which land?
It is the INTERnet ... not the UKnet.
I'm all for reasonable protection for intellectual and creative rights but all this copyright stuff is not so much last century as 19thC.
I mean, we all know how effective the regionalisation of dvds is ...
... media providers and conveyors really do have to have a fundamental rethink of which transmission model is effective for them and fair for us.This is a reply to this message.
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Hi Joe_Chip,
If you look at the terms (section 12) it makes it clear - you agree not to download or attempt to download the BBC Content if you are outside the UK; and not to infringe any applicable law including copyright law when accessing and using BBC iPlayer;
I don't make the law, your MP is the best person to contact if you disagree with the law and want it changed.
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Jonathan,
You're making some assumptions;
1: I haven't read / don't understand the terms and conditions
2: I'm advocating illegal usage of BBC material
3: I live in the UK and have access to my MP
4: I use iPlayer
I was making a general point. Is it a possibility that current copyright protection is attempting to address 21stC conditions with 19thC terms?
Sort of whistling in the wind.
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