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  • Message 1. 

    Posted by justthatnurd (U15027800) on Sunday, 6th November 2011

    Hello, I have to do this presentation on the question 'Is there a god'. I need to get people opinions on the question. So if you could leave a reply saying wether or not you think there is a god and why, that would be great. Thank youu.

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    Posted by Dani (U15028570) on Tuesday, 8th November 2011

    OK, someones probably gonna come and argue with me, but this is why I think there is a God.
    1. morals. We all think that going round killing people is wrong, don't we? i think God made us like that.
    2. searching. Everyone is searching for something bigger - everyone is looking for a god, or some controlling force or whatever.
    3. this is the bit everyone fights over. Science. so although anti-God things are publicised more, there are hundreds of scientists who believe in God.
    So there's more, but I can't be bothered typing more, I hope that helps ^^

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    Posted by U15028368 (U15028368) on Tuesday, 8th November 2011

    yh I think that there is a god.
    reasons:
    1. Religion teaches it and there is evidence in holy books
    2. how was the earth created? science says the big bang theory but everything has a cause and there must have been somone to have caused he big bang. religious books also state that GOD created the univerese.
    3. all the miracles that occur
    4. people belve in life after death like near death experiences and reincarnation, which proves that there is a god
    5. how else could the earth exist
    6. everything is so perfect like for example how the human body works and there must have been someone to have deigned it and therefore that proves that god exists.
    7. when you pray you can feel peace within you and its the way of contacting to god

    although some may say god doesnt exist because we dont see him, but that is the real beauty. god wants to see if we behave correctly, a bit like a test, and belive in him

    overall i belive in god because my religion teaches it to me

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    Posted by Ksnglnd (U14755367) on Tuesday, 8th November 2011

    I do not believe in God because
    1) There is no evidence for any form of god
    2) Any God would need a creator/ cause that no-one can answer
    3) I have yet to see any reason (except perhaps happiness) to believe
    4) Even if God does exist then I think he is not worth worshipping anyway

    That's a start anyway

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    Posted by Oliver (U14753185) on Tuesday, 8th November 2011

    "2. searching. Everyone is searching for something bigger - everyone is looking for a god, or some controlling force or whatever. "
    I am not, I am searching for something better than that, I am searching for artistic beauty and friendship with other people.

    "...cause and there must have been somone to have caused he big bang."
    The big bang doesn't need a cause, and even if everything did need a cause(which it doesn't otherwise random things couldn't happen) then god would need a cause aswell.

    "3. all the miracles that occur"
    Miracles can be explained in other ways.

    "5. how else could the earth exist"
    It formed from space dust and by gravity pulling it together, simple.

    "6. everything is so perfect like for example how the human body works..."
    The human body has organs it doesn't even need but they take energy to keep, how is this perfect?

    "...and there must have been someone to have deigned it"
    Or evolution?

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    Posted by justthatnurd (U15027800) on Sunday, 13th November 2011

    Thanks you for your opinions. I'm going to use them in my project. Thanks again. smiley - smiley

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    Posted by NaturalAtheist (U15035063) on Tuesday, 15th November 2011

    I'm sorry but what you have been taught is clearly wrong.

    1. 'Religion teaches it and there is evidence in holy books'

    There is no evidence in the holy books. For something to be considered evidence, it needs to be testable. No one has been turned into a pillar of salt, there are no talking snakes or people walking on water.

    2. 'how was the earth created? science says the big bang theory but everything has a cause and there must have been somone to have caused he big bang. religious books also state that GOD created the univerese.'

    I will leave 'how was the earth created?' for question 5. If everything must have a cause, it raises the question of how god was created? If he can just exist or has always existed, then so can the universe? I think the creation of the universe is a question we won't be able to answer for hundreds or even thousands of years, but that doesn't mean we should just fill the knowledge gap with 'god did it'. Creation cannot really be considered a pressing concern right now anyways. We need to concentrate on more important issues such as dwindling resources and global warming.

    3. 'all the miracles that occur'

    What miracles? All those thousands of people dying of famine in somalia. These are good people who only want to live peacefully and raise their families, they have done nothing wrong so why would god punish them? Where is their miracle right now?

    4. 'people belve in life after death like near death experiences and reincarnation, which proves that there is a god'

    Just because people believe something, doesn't mean its true? As with the tooth fairy, hundreds of thousands of kids believe in a tooth fairy, does that make it true? Near death experience have simple scientific explanations, do a google search and you can find them.

    5. 'how else could the earth exist'

    Google earth formation or earth accretion for an answer to that question. sorry but i don't want to sit here outlining the laws of physics and their affect on dust and particles in space.

    6. 'everything is so perfect like for example how the human body works and there must have been someone to have deigned it and therefore that proves that god exists.'

    Nothing is perfect, nature is not perfect otherwise we wouldn't have species going extinct. And before you say we cause extinctions, just think of all the different animal species that have existed before humans that are now gone.

    The human body is very flawed. It is very inefficient; we consume so much matter only to extract small amounts of useful molecules and nutrients before excreting large amounts of waste (faeces). Surely a god would have designed an effiecient food source that produced little or no waste products. We have vestigial organs such as the coccyx (tail bone), male nipples (if man came first, why did he have nipples that serve no purpose at all?), wisdom teeth, thymus gland, eyebrows, tonsils and the most troublesome of all, the appendix. The appendix does nothing but have the potential to kill you, a bit of sloppy design is it not?

    Also our immune system struggles with mutating strains of virus (when god gave viruses the ability to mutate he must have forgotten to adjust our immune systems to adapt to those mutations) If someone did design the human body, they did a very sloppy job of it and if this was a god, he will get no worship from me! his sloppy handy work causes the suffering and deaths of millions world wide.

    7. 'when you pray you can feel peace within you and its the way of contacting to god'

    When I listen to beautiful music created by a human, I feel peace within me. Music comes from humans, not a god. Otherwise a god could play music from the heavens for the whole world to hear. The only music a majority of people hear is chart music, which i'm sure you will agree, does not fill anyone with peace or feel connected to god. Music cannot come from god, it comes from humans.

    If god created humans, put us in this world to test us and see if we qualify to live in heaven or be sent to hell for an eternity of pain and suffering, wouldn't it be easier and more 'intelligent' to just create us good and let us straight into heaven? He supposidly made us the way we are, so he punishes us for doing 'evil' even though that is how he designed us?

    Instead of being taught what you should believe or do, why not go out and learn for yourself. Don't be lazy and expect to be told how to live your life, becuase then you aren't really living are you?

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    Posted by U15035105 (U15035105) on Tuesday, 15th November 2011

    No, because one day, hopefully in the near future, scientists will prove the theory of evolution and the big bang. That is all.

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    Posted by U15035105 (U15035105) on Tuesday, 15th November 2011

    smiley - smiley

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    Posted by zabini (U14451187) on Sunday, 20th November 2011

    i believe in somethingism (The beliefs held by an individual who credits the existence of God(s) or a higher power, but does not subscribe to the specific religious beliefs held by any particular faith or institutionalized religion.)
    basically i believe that something caused the world to be formed (the world is too complex to be designed by chance - design argument) - whether or not this is god i am not sure but i do not thing that this being is a personal god (interferes with everyday life) because of all the suffering in the world

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    Posted by Safiya122 (U14983325) on Friday, 25th November 2011

    I think many of the reasons above proving there is God are good, and true. And I think that everyone here should just respect one anothers ideas. Many seem to be relating to science. I'd just like to point out that God is something that even many scientists themselves say, cannot be disaproved of.
    And also for one of the messages above, God IS the creator, nobody or nothing created God smiley - smiley

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    Posted by lillyonlyme (U15048083) on Wednesday, 30th November 2011

    I THINK THIS IS GREAT ADVICE. We should all respect others ideas. Genius!

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    Posted by lillyonlyme (U15048083) on Wednesday, 30th November 2011

    Hi, I do think there is a god because to me, everything in this world has a creator. say you looked at a house, would you say that house just appeared? you may agree that the house would need a designer. thats how i feel about god to be honest. people can argue that then God must have a creator but really, if you have an inclination of god it's a driven faith and then you dont really need to know how god got there you just believe he did.
    That's my reasoning anyway xxxx

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    Posted by Dani (U15028570) on Wednesday, 30th November 2011

    I agree, lilyonlyme
    It's called faith because you need to have faith - believing the unseen

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    Posted by Safiya122 (U14983325) on Thursday, 1st December 2011

    Thank you smiley - smiley

    "believing the unseen"

    Urm we can't see air, but we believe it and we breath it. Although religion is slightly different, it's a bit like that. We can't see God but we believe in Him. Please respect that smiley - smiley

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    Posted by U15062235 (U15062235) on Wednesday, 14th December 2011

    Hellooo!!
    i believe that there is a god, he is a very good man and created the world. He is a caring indivdual and i love him for creating the world!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!;D

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    Posted by Safiya122 (U14983325) on Thursday, 15th December 2011

    God is NOT a man.

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    Posted by sugar-plum (U15063516) on Sunday, 18th December 2011

    I believe there is a god because i feel his presence and some people might say if there was god why would there be suffering and evil in this world if he was benevolent.

    Well my answer would be what would be the point of an after life-heaven if this world was soo perfect and there was no evil in this world why would god be judging us in this world on our deeds. There would be no point of haven nor hell

    smiley - winkeye well thats my answer thankx

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    Posted by smiley x (U15005941) on Friday, 30th December 2011

    Its all to do in what you believe in if you have a re,igion then you will abviously believe in god and if your an athiests then you will argue aginst it. No one has proof of if there is or isnt a god. But it is what you think thats the whole point of religion finding the right thinng for you to believe in and that your comfortable with the rules and stuff xx

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    Posted by U15077319 (U15077319) on Wednesday, 4th January 2012

    I find it impossible to believe in an ultimate creator who is sadistic enough to allow so much suffering in the world and therefor cannot believe in a benevolent god as many religions do.

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    Posted by Hiza (U14875141) on Thursday, 5th January 2012

    I find it impossible to believe in an ultimate creator who is sadistic enough to allow so much suffering in the world and therefor cannot believe in a benevolent god as many religions do.  'I believe in the sun even when it is not shining. I believe in love even when not feeling it. I believe in God even when He is silent.'

    A Jewish inscription scrawled on a wall in a hiding place from the Nazi's.

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    Posted by Han Ban (U14706661) on Sunday, 8th January 2012

    Good point, why is God normally considered a man? Ask any kid what God looks like and I'll bet you 9 out of 10 times they'll say, "He's an old man with a long white beard, wearing a white tunic." To me caring and kindness are attributes I would normally consider more feminine than masculine.

    My religion recognises the importance of both masculine and feminine energies, not one is greater or less than the other. The elements of the earth: Earth, wind, fire and water are contrasting opposites. Earth and Water are feminine, as opposed to Wind and Fire which are masculine, yet without them this world would not be perfectly balanced; so my Gods are the Earth themselves and to me this world is perfection, it is only humans that insist on damaging and hurting this beautiful place we have been granted to live on.

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    Posted by Safiya122 (U14983325) on Thursday, 12th January 2012

    Yes I understand smiley - smiley
    And the bit about "an old man with white beard"..I mean why is God going to look like a man? God is a creator, therefore He's unique. Comparing God to a human..it's like saying it's a human that's a God and how on earth can a human create so much beauty?

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    Posted by Han Ban (U14706661) on Thursday, 12th January 2012

    But you still define God with a gender, 'He'. And in Christian belief man is made in God's image, therefore, for that religion, God does look like man.

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    Posted by Safiya122 (U14983325) on Friday, 13th January 2012

    Should we define God as "It" then?

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    Posted by Han Ban (U14706661) on Friday, 13th January 2012

    Many find 'It' as impersonal though.

    I'm more curious than anything else, I have a tonne of Gods and Goddess, so I worship both male and female forces...though I guess the main Goddess is female, but considering she is the earth to me that makes sense. A woman can be nurturing and protective, but also wild and fierce. I know men can be the same, but I do think as women we have (throughout history) placed a deep emphasis on motherhood and sisterhood, so our close bonds and loyalty is much more innately driven into us, as is the idea of connection with the earth.

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    Posted by Jacob (U15272216) on Thursday, 17th May 2012

    God cannot be disproved, that much I will agree with, but my no means does that validate a belief in him, nor is there any indisputable proof that he, or any higher power exists, and if you genuinely believe there is, feel free to respond.

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    Posted by Jacob (U15272216) on Thursday, 17th May 2012

    Can you see my invisible untouchable unicorn? we base our lives, what we know, on what is observable, and measurable, we know air exists because we understand that it contains its various elements and a vacuum does not, therefore air is a substance. Just because there is no way to disprove something doesn't make it true, find any evidence that actually supports the idea he exists before you believe in him to make you feel better about being alone on a cold rock hurtling through space with no significance whatsoever.

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    Posted by U15267228 (U15267228) on Sunday, 20th May 2012

    God cannot be disproved, that much I will agree with, but my no means does that validate a belief in him, nor is there any indisputable proof that he, or any higher power exists, and if you genuinely believe there is, feel free to respond.  That is true, there is no indisputable proof for the God theory, however, beliefs do not require 'validating' for them to be believed in. That is why I have called the existence of God a 'theory' (a theory is an idea or belief formed by speculation/conjecture). In the same way, the Big Bang, whether God-created or not, is also a theory (BBC GCSE Bitesize states the following on creation):

    "One of the theories put forward by cosmologists is the Big Bang theory. This suggests that about 15 billion years ago there was a massive explosion. This was the point at which all matter in the universe began; space and time began then too. Over time the universe that we know, and human and animal life, emerged.
    This theory is generally accepted by scientists as being the best theory they have to explain the origins of the universe.
    If this theory is true, then it could mean that the universe 'just happened' and that it did not emerge as a result of the activity of a creator God."

    Look how carefully the BBC has phrased this. Clearly, this accepts that the Big Bang theory is not have 'indisputable proof' ('It suggests that...', 'generally accepted...', 'If this theory is true...', 'the best theory they have...' etc.).

    Thanks :P !

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    Posted by U15267228 (U15267228) on Sunday, 20th May 2012

    Can you see my invisible untouchable unicorn? we base our lives, what we know, on what is observable, and measurable, we know air exists because we understand that it contains its various elements and a vacuum does not, therefore air is a substance. Just because there is no way to disprove something doesn't make it true, find any evidence that actually supports the idea he exists before you believe in him to make you feel better about being alone on a cold rock hurtling through space with no significance whatsoever.  As a Hindu, I believe God is beyond the 5 senses. As you said, we have 'no significance whatsoever' in the universe, so, naturally, we would not be significant enough to have any direct contact with the creator (if there is a creator, or if there's a 'superbeing' etc.). This is where religion comes in, as it is intended to open up the path to that creator.

    Before you argue, I know the theories in the last paragraph have little or no evidence. Also, can you see feelings? No. Yet they exist. How do we know? Due to a 'sixth sense', as some may label it. Either that, or we don't know feelings exist. What says ye to that?

    Finally, millions of people believe in God. At the moment, it's just as good as any other theory about creation. The conclusion: We don't yet know for sure why we exist. So please respect the beliefs of many before claiming that people who believe in God do so 'to feel better about having no significance whatsoever'. I don't believe in God to feel better. I accept that we, as 'Earthlings', currently don't know what we're meant to be doing, and most of us, for this reason, are doing a pretty bad job at living in general. But that doesn't mean that the rest of us can't believe in something because there is no evidence for it. I can guarantee that your beliefs about creation also have no conclusive evidence for them.

    And I base my life on what there is to be known. By the way, the answer to your question is no, because your unicorn is currently invisible and untouchable. Try hearing, smelling, or tasting (that might be difficult) it instead.

    Thanks!

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    Posted by U15275696 (U15275696) on Sunday, 20th May 2012

    There is definitely a God because just look around you! Think about it logically, how can this AMAZING universe that we live in have happened just by chance? If we were a fraction closer to the sun, the earth would be too hot to sustain life and if it was a fraction further away, we would not have enough heat! How can it be chance?!

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    Posted by U15267228 (U15267228) on Sunday, 20th May 2012

    There is definitely a God because just look around you! Think about it logically, how can this AMAZING universe that we live in have happened just by chance? If we were a fraction closer to the sun, the earth would be too hot to sustain life and if it was a fraction further away, we would not have enough heat! How can it be chance?!  Interesting argument, but you could argue that there are so many planets in the universe that at least one, by chance, would turn out to be just right for life. Or maybe we adapted to conditions of Earth. So, although I believe in God, I think that this argument ('Paley's watchmaker analogy' - a teleological argument) has it's weaknesses. After all, the universe is so big, anything can happen, even by chance!

    Now, my favourite argument is 'Pascal's Wager':
    "1."God is, or He is not"
    2. A Game is being played... where heads or tails will turn up.
    3. According to reason, you can defend neither of the propositions.
    4. You must wager. (It's not optional.)
    5. Let us weigh the gain and the loss in wagering that God is. Let us estimate these two chances. If you gain, you gain all; if you lose, you lose nothing.
    6. Wager, then, without hesitation that He is. (...) There is here an infinity of an infinitely happy life to gain, a chance of gain against a finite number of chances of loss, and what you stake is finite. And so our proposition is of infinite force, when there is the finite to stake in a game where there are equal risks of gain and of loss, and the infinite to gain."

    This means that if you believe in God:
    1. If you're wrong, when you die, you don't lose anything, as you're friends can't gloat at you
    2. If you're right, when you die, you gain everything in realising God

    If you don't:
    1. If you're wrong, when you die, you lose everything, as you go to 'hell'
    2. If you're right, when you die, you don't gain anything, as you can't gloat at your friends

    So there's a lot more to gain from believing in God (you either gain or stay the same) than not believing in God (you either stay the same or lose) when you die.

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    Posted by Oliver (U14753185) on Sunday, 20th May 2012

    "Finally, millions of people believe in God. At the moment, it's just as good as any other theory about creation."
    Not it's not, The Big Bang and Evolution are based on huge amounts of evidence Creationism isn't.

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    Posted by U15267228 (U15267228) on Sunday, 20th May 2012

    "Finally, millions of people believe in God. At the moment, it's just as good as any other theory about creation."
    Not it's not, The Big Bang and Evolution are based on huge amounts of evidence Creationism isn't. 
    Yes, but even though 'The Big Bang' and 'Evolution' theories have more evidence, doesn't make them fact. They are still theories, like the God theory. Also, 'The Big Bang' may or may not have been started by a 'superbeing' (God?), and the 'Evolution' theory was shown by religion long before science - science just explained a theory that already existed. Also, 'Creationism' classes all 'creation' theories, but I'm guessing you meant the 'God' theory.

    Has it ever crossed your mind that both religion and science could work? You can't dismiss religion so easily. And I had some other points...

    Anyway, nice discussing with you. Thanks smiley - smiley

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    Posted by Oliver (U14753185) on Sunday, 20th May 2012

    Pascal's wager fails because firstly it assumes Belief in God can simply turned on and off like a light switch.

    Secondly it assumes If you don't believe in God you don't get into heaven despite the fact many people believe you simply have to be a good person.

    Thirdly sort of continuing from the second, what if God only let atheists into Heaven?

    And Fourth it implies there is a heaven at all, even if God does exist there is no guarantee of a heaven.

    And lastly it implies I would want to go to heaven when I wouldn't, particularly if heaven is ran by a God who only lets in people who worship him, that God would be cruel and narcissistic and I would in no way want to live in his heaven.

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    Posted by Oliver (U14753185) on Sunday, 20th May 2012

    "Yes, but even though 'The Big Bang' and 'Evolution' theories have more evidence, doesn't make them fact."

    Although I don't believe anything can ever be fact (as nothing is ever certainly known) for practical purposes Evolution and the Big Bang are regarded as facts.

    "God theory"
    There is no such thing as the God theory.

    "and the 'Evolution' theory was shown by religion long before science"

    No they weren't, the only examples of any understanding of evolution in the past are from Greek and Chinese philosophers but these where ignored in favour of Plato's/Aristotle's erroneous ideas about nature (which is why it took so long for people to accept Darwin's argument), these are the only cases and no religions mention evolution at all.

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    Posted by U15267228 (U15267228) on Sunday, 20th May 2012

    1. Well, belief in God can, but only gradually, be changed - I was an atheist until a few years ago, then agnostic, then theist smiley - smiley

    2. Good point... you win here, anyway :P Although it could suggest you are MORE likely to get into heaven when believing in God?

    3. Well, I wouldn't want to go to heaven, then

    4. True, true

    5. Well, if heaven exists, I doubt that would be the case

    So, I accept you're argument is better than mine, but I like Pascal's Wager as it looks at God and religion from a different, and more logical, perspective. Thanks :P

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    Posted by The Marshall (U14786179) on Sunday, 20th May 2012

    There is a God and there always will be. Accepted, the views are mixed between the creation of universe, but God let the world form within itself and then got involved with us personally. He accepts all kinds of people in Heaven, After all, he created them and will accept them.

    God exists in our souls. One of the things Science cannot explain is how life is actually concieved into the baby. Apart from the sperm travelling to the ovaries, where did that soul come from?

    The Big Bang is a big fiasco. There is an increasing amount of evidence against it.
    Where did that dense matter come from? Where did matter come from/? What in those years made it to explode in one single point? In fact, WHY did It HAPPEN? How did the energy come from? Where did it come from? In fact, what were the actual reasons for the Big Bang to actually happen.

    So in actual fact, for all the people who said God created the world is true. God created the world and only he did it. No other force could have done it.

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    Posted by The Marshall (U14786179) on Sunday, 20th May 2012

    First, Atheists may believe what they want.

    But Second, There are many people out there who have had actual experiences with God. You cannot and CANNOT dispute their sayings. What they're saying is their experince but you cannot say they are lying.

    What miracles? All those thousands of people dying of famine in somalia. These are good people who only want to live peacefully and raise their families, they have done nothing wrong so why would god punish them? Where is their miracle right now?

    First, that has nothing to do with this. Absolute nonsense. This is caused by Human actions, not God. He runs the world but now he isn't so closely involved with us as we have become to distant from him. War has changed our civisaliton. There have been experiences of a little baby girl who died and then went to meet God and she returned back to life. What you will now do is you will dismiss it. That cannot be accepted. Miracles happen to people who do good. Not bad.

    4. 'people belve in life after death like near death experiences and reincarnation, which proves that there is a god'

    Just because people believe something, doesn't mean its true? As with the tooth fairy, hundreds of thousands of kids believe in a tooth fairy, does that make it true? Near death experience have simple scientific explanations, do a google search and you can find them.

    Second, you are contradicting your statement. IF SOMETHING is TRUE then it will remain true! There cannot be two sides. I'll tell you a story. When my mother's father died, the family had to hmake food for him, as he would appear in the form of a crow to eat. ( This happened for real) His son touched the food and he did not eat. The crow was my grandfather. As soon as my uncle touched it, he began eating. Now you must believe in this. Since you are forcing people to accept this kind of view, I'm sure you can accept this one.

    Instead of being taught what you should believe or do, why not go out and learn for yourself. Don't be lazy and expect to be told how to live your life, becuase then you aren't really living are you?

    Look. Religion is all about this. Hinduism is based on these principles. That does not mean we religious people have to follow always our rules and stirct codes, we have a life as well, we like fun, we want to have a family. Liberal Religions such as Buddhism and Hinduism allow this. Nowadays, things have changed. People have become more freer because of reforms. So don't assume a thousand year old view. In order to show you what God means, I shall quote from Radinrbath Tagore in his conversation with Albert Einstein.
    And you have no right, I mean no right to tell people that their belief is wrong. That is just not good in my eyes.

    Now, for quoting:

    '' There is in human affairs an element of elasticity also, some freedom within a small range which is for the expression of our personality. It is like the musical system in India, which is not so rigidly fixed as western music. Our composers give a certain definite outline, a system of melody and rhythmic arrangement, and within a certain limit the player can improvise upon it. He must be one with the law of that particular melody, and then he can give spontaneous expression to his musical feeling within the prescribed regulation. We praise the composer for his genius in creating a foundation along with a superstructure of melodies, but we expect from the player his own skill in the creation of variations of melodic flourish and ornamentation. In creation we follow the central law of existence, but if we do not cut ourselves adrift from it, we can have sufficient freedom within the limits of our personality for the fullest self-expression.''

    '' Not isolated. The infinite personality of Man comprehends the Universe. There cannot be anything that cannot be subsumed by the human personality, and this proves that the Truth of the Universe is human Truth.

    I have taken a scientific fact to explain this — Matter is composed of protons and electrons, with gaps between them; but matter may seem to be solid. Similarly humanity is composed of individuals, yet they have their interconnection of human relationship, which gives living unity to man’s world. The entire universe is linked up with us in a similar manner, it is a human universe. I have pursued this thought through art, literature and the religious consciousness of man.''

    TAGORE: Yes, one eternal entity. We have to realize it through our emotions and activities. We realized the Supreme Man who has no individual limitations through our limitations. Science is concerned with that which is not confined to individuals; it is the impersonal human world of Truths. Religion realizes these Truths and links them up with our deeper needs; our individual consciousness of Truth gains universal significance. Religion applies values to Truth, and we know this Truth as good through our own harmony with it.

    This post may seem long, but I am fighting for many of the people who believe in God, I suggest you read the sayings by Tagore. The evidence is right in front of you.

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    Posted by Oliver (U14753185) on Sunday, 20th May 2012

    "The Big Bang is a big fiasco. There is an increasing amount of evidence against it."

    Name one piece of evidence that contradicts the Big Bang.

    "Where did that dense matter come from? Where did matter come from/? What in those years made it to explode in one single point? In fact, WHY did It HAPPEN? How did the energy come from? Where did it come from? "

    Firstly none of those flaws relate to the Big Bang, they relate to a completely separate topic of physics.
    Secondly even if they where to do with the Big Bang they wouldn't be evidence against the Big Bang just merely Gaps in our understanding.
    Thirdly there are many explanations for these problems such as Hartle-Hawking initial state, M-theory etc

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    Posted by YoungWriter (U15038395) on Monday, 21st May 2012

    I'm religious and so am lead to believe there is god. But, I also want to be a scientist. Weird combination right?
    But there is one thing that annoys me, despite the fact that I believe in god.
    There are religious people out there who don't understand god isn't behind everything- like some say humans appeared out of no-where, perfect and it was god who made it so. Despite the fact that there is scientific proof behind it- like evolution they continue to persist god is behind everything. There are also some that say they have proof; Like reincarnation or near death experiences in which they glimpsed the afterlife- I do believe in the afterlife but it seems absurd to me that people feel that a testament from someone who had a near death experience means that it was true. But there are some things that I feel need the role of a creator to fill the gap that science fails to fill. The question I have is:
    What started it? I mean people say big bang theory etc etc which I agree with but- no one can say what caused it- what started the massive chain reaction? There must've been one helping hand to get things going- or so I believe. Everything seems so perfect- like everything is set out for us. I do feel like many others do when I say I think life is like a test god set for us and that he is observing.

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    Posted by U14748030 (U14748030) on Monday, 21st May 2012

    Actually, the Earth has an elliptical orbit meaning its distance from the sun ranges from about 147 million kilometres to about 152 million kilometres. Moreover, it is hypothesised that the "Habitable Zone" for our solar system is 0.725 to 3.0 Astronomical units (i.e., between 0.75 and 3 times the distance the Earth is, on average, from the Sun). Hence, the Earth could move closer or further from the Sun and still sustain life.

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    Posted by U15267228 (U15267228) on Monday, 21st May 2012

    Actually, the Earth has an elliptical orbit meaning its distance from the sun ranges from about 147 million kilometres to about 152 million kilometres. Moreover, it is hypothesised that the "Habitable Zone" for our solar system is 0.725 to 3.0 Astronomical units (i.e., between 0.75 and 3 times the distance the Earth is, on average, from the Sun). Hence, the Earth could move closer or further from the Sun and still sustain life.  Very interesting points - I didn't know that :P
    Thanks!

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    Posted by U14830073 (U14830073) on Friday, 25th May 2012

    yes i do there is there is no proof that God doesn't exist sooo that mean he does...................... smiley - winkeye

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