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  • Message 101

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    Posted by dazzlingrosebud (U3028443) on Monday, 17th January 2011

    LOVED IT ...was gardening in my dreams after watching the show and itching to get going the following morning.
    I sometimes feel concern for Carols forfinger on her right hand, does it hurt, was it dmaged when she was young? That finger does so much pushing in of seeds I just hope it doesn't cause her any pain.
    Can't wait for Friday, thank-you BBC, than-you Carol.
    Cute shots of the dogs too.
    Becky xxxxx

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  • Message 102

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    Posted by the cycling gardener (U2350416) on Monday, 17th January 2011

    Another superb edition. Inspirational and informative in a relaxing, no nonsense way. The setting is sublime. Carol gardens from the heart and this series conveys this beautifully. I can't remember the last time I felt so enthusiastic about a gardening programme.

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    Posted by Sparky (U6716422) on Monday, 17th January 2011

    I loved the programme too. I was a little concerned at one point though, we seemed to get a bit of dodgy camerawork about half way through, a couple of arty misty shots crept in. No more please, we need nice clear shots of Carol and her garden.

    I'm glad it's being shown at this time if the year, everyone's gardens are looking so depressing at the moment - to see how it all transforms is very inspiring! Right, I'm off to do some tidying up!

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  • Message 104

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    Posted by londonplantmad (U2392946) on Monday, 17th January 2011

    I also agree it was a lovely program. It finished far too soon.
    When i saw the celandine i felt a bit reassured. It appeared in my garden several years ago and its my biggest hate. I have tried everything to remove it but no it still pops back. Once on a trip to Wisley they had it in their garden i asked what i could do any they said live with it as it does not last long. Thats true but it spreads all over even into the lawn. Maybe Carol has decided to live with it its a pretty flower but thats all. Do you thing a tiger has clawed that leather jacket or has she fallen in a pyracantha. It looks like serious damage to me. Maybe its those two fierce dogs they look pretty scary.

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  • Message 105

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    Posted by tulipmania (U3090145) on Monday, 17th January 2011

    Hi everyone,

    Didn't know what I was starting when I first posted!

    I'm wondering if we're confusing celandines with Winter Aconite - Eranthis Hyemalis? Need to rewatch my recording.

    Anyway, today I got on line and ordered from a company advertising in a
    well known gardening magazine(!) 1000 snowdrops in the green, just the bog standard nivalis but none the less beautiful for that! 500 for our lotty who are redoing all the open areas to conform with 'natural garden' standards and the rest for myself and a neighbour.

    Like everyone else the fingers are still itching to get started!

    Greetings Tulip

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  • Message 106

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    Posted by judimac (U2467704) on Monday, 17th January 2011

    I love this series. You know she gets her hands dirty, you can see them, arthritic changes and all. She communicates her enthusiasm brilliantly and is lighting up friday nights. Now if I could just find out where she got those earrings!

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  • Message 107

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    Posted by Lowena (U14575314) on Monday, 17th January 2011

    Hi Frank
    I was passing Pendennis castle this afternoon and suddenly realised that I hadn't answered your post - very remiss of me smiley - sadface
    Devon pasties - wash your mouth out!! ( even though I'm not from Cornwall originally, but Essex - Colchester to be precise, you must know the MCTC there Frank, surely?!)
    Our enjoyment of Carol and her programme surely stands us in good stead, and I am glad to know that our jousting ( pilchards at 20 paces) amuses others besides ourselves smiley - smiley
    Don't hold out much hope for the lectures which will surely be the trademark of the new GW, but am determined to wallow in the pleasure afforded by Ms Klein and Glebe Cottage.........roll on Friday smiley - smiley

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  • Message 108

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    Posted by Palaisglide (U3102587) on Monday, 17th January 2011

    Hi Lowena,
    Pendennis was certainly a learning curve, how to smuggle good Devon scrumpy past the border guards on Cornwall's iron curtain.
    At home in Durham the dance halls exuded the scent from the ladies of "Pit Pony" in Cornwall it was the scent of Crab dresser and Mackerel aprons.
    A lady of my acquaintance took me fishing and introduced me to adult skinny dipping and other pastimes whilst waiting for the mackerel lines to reap their harvest, very interesting.
    Knew Colchester well enough having delivered quite a few gentlemen there for further indoctrination to the ways of the army, the hard way.
    Essex girls furthered my education into the likes and dislikes of the ladies, lovely girls.
    I am just laying back and enjoying Carols programmes and believe it or not am learning a few things my old dad forgot to tell me but then he was very busy during the war.
    I await GW as one would await the bang after pulling the pin on a grenade, providing of course you remembered to throw it?
    Oops sorry Lowena I got so used to setting bait in Cornwall it comes naturally.
    Still on the up side I never laugh at Essex girl jokes.

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  • Message 109

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    Posted by Lowena (U14575314) on Tuesday, 18th January 2011

    You're a true gent Frank smiley - winkeye - let's hope 2011 brings us both what we want from gardening tv programmes...........and a warm,sunny summer so we may enjoy our plots and emulate Carol's garden smiley - smiley

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  • Message 110

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    Posted by jane stevens (U14756995) on Tuesday, 18th January 2011

    Yes she seems much happier and more relaxed. I enjoyed the feel of the programme. BUT........... not sowing seeds again! not taking cuttings! not fiddling about layering a socking great clematis which no sensible person could possibly consider a priority when the garden all around needs rapid attention. Plus how long was it since she last pruned that clematis. Not mentioned I think. Rather telling that.

    I object most to dishonesty about gardening on the BBC. Plus wittering on about beauty and not actually thinking. Why on earth would you fiddle about (unless you were starting a little nursery concern) with hybridising hellebores (wbich anyway seemed to offer nothing to each other) and ignore the rank mess all around you. Why would you gather primrose seed and sow it? much better to learn to recognise the seedlings. Why, nowadays would you dig every perennial up and divide them and then replant them without talking about what you didn't need to do that to, where you put them, what you leave out etc. Who wants to do that over the weekend?. Most of us are piecemeal about that sort of thing, looking for the quick way round, wanting the garden to look nice enough all the time. It was March at one point and still looked horrendous.

    It's great if you want individuality in the garden but she needs to claim her choices as her own and set them in context. Otherwise, the novice gardener sees it all as endlessly more arcane and confusing, with strange inexplicable requirements and an incomprehensible garden all around.

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  • Message 111

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    Posted by Obelixx (U2157162) on Tuesday, 18th January 2011

    I get the impression Carol is a compulsive propagator and can't help herself having started by necessity of economics and then discovered she was good at it. Success breeds repetition - look at Monet and all those cynical repetetive water lilies for punters to buy - and why not when it's about making plants and you run a nursery for a living or have a garden to fill? Lots of us propagate because we can and need spares or replacements and can swap extras with friends or sell them for charity. i'd far rather sow seeds and have a surplus than spend a comparatively large sum on just one or two plants.

    I'd agree about it being better to save recognised self sown seedlings but in a crowded garden they're all too easy to miss and in a large garden it's so much easier to get the hoe out and do the weeding as quickly as possible and not inch by inch on one's knees. I know in my garden the weed seedlings soon smother the more interesting plants and I miss a lot or find a bed being taken over while my back's turned somewhere else in the garden.

    i did wonder about what she did with all the lifted plants to keep them going till they were divided and replanted. I used to keep mine in old paddling pools till I was ready to plant them or pot them up. I don't have nursery beds. Maybe I should start one.

    I think it's a programme where you have to cherry pick tecniques that may be of interest, try a few new ones, confirm or modify a few old ones and just let the rest wash over in a general glow of delight in a proper, mucky, hands on gardening programme from apresenter who knows her stuff and doesn't talk down to her audience.

    Carol has got me itching to get out there which TB and co never did and Monty inreasingly failed to do in his series.

    More please.

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  • Message 112

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    Posted by David K (U14115317) on Tuesday, 18th January 2011

    Jane - with respect, I think you're missing the point slightly. Carol is demonstrating various ways of plant propagation, if you wish to believe she is doing this solely for her own garden, that's up to you.

    Regarding the unkempt clematis, it has to be understood that some things need to be left like this for demonstration purposes...otherwise how can they demonstrate?

    I remember visiting Clack's Farm when it the venue for GW and asking Arthur Billett why he didn’t pick the greenhouse tomatoes when they were ripe. He explained that they needed to be left, to demonstrate to the cameras.
    There would be little point in trying to explain to viewers that there were tomatoes here last week, but we ate them.

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  • Message 113

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    Posted by Palaisglide (U3102587) on Tuesday, 18th January 2011

    Glad I read this one first before replying to message 110, you said it all for me.
    I think the previous poster missed the point in that Carol was renovating an old bed when she dug out the plants for splitting and replanting some of them elsewhere as she told us.
    Gardeners fall in love with some plants and thank goodness we all like different things so the hybridising would be to Carol a labour of love and for ones own satisfaction only.
    New gardeners will watch Carol's programme knowing full well it is not a beginner's slot, they can get that from GW, I would hope that like me a very old gardener they would still learn something they can get their teeth into.

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  • Message 114

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    Posted by margaretstar (U14415248) on Tuesday, 18th January 2011

    I have a large and unruly clematis montana. It was like that when I moved in. Every year just when it starts to flower blackbirds nest in it. It gets a hasty chop back in between clutches, but rather late for a good prune.

    Last year the blackbirds chose another place to nest and I was able finally to
    do a better job on it.

    Carol left some of her box unpruned because of nesting birds.

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  • Message 115

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    Posted by londonplantmad (U2392946) on Tuesday, 18th January 2011

    I think the aconite were in the woodland area. The celandine was going up the steps. I have so much of it i would not mistake it for aconite if it was aconite i would never try to remove it.

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  • Message 116

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    Posted by Palaisglide (U3102587) on Tuesday, 18th January 2011

    You're a true gent Frank 
    "oh" Lowena, you do know how to insult a chap, I was a WO (warrant Officer) not one of those swagger sticks with a plum in the mouth, we worked.
    I sometimes got my own back taking young Officers on the parade ground for singing lessons (How to give orders on parade).
    "I will call you Sir, you will call me Sir, the difference being you will mean it" and then the fun began.

    My Plot this morning was a gleaming white wedding gown and I felt sorry for those small green shoots that were basking in yesterday's sunshine, it has just cleared from parts now although the south lawn was clear this morning, the east lawn still has some white on it.
    I think we have more to come yet.

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  • Message 117

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    Posted by Obelixx (U2157162) on Tuesday, 18th January 2011

    Snow forecast for this weekend now. Humph!

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  • Message 118

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    Posted by PenylanSue (U13901201) on Tuesday, 18th January 2011

    In reply to Jane's post I ask "why wouldn't you want to hybridise hellebores?".
    There's always that chance of something unusual I suppose.
    I too love propagating in all forms. I learned at the weekend that the best Hellebore seedlings are made by sowing the seed yourself as the parent plant has a sort of inhibitor in the soil around itself, in the same way that Oak trees do.
    So the seedling plants never quite do as well.

    I can't go along with your opinion about the garden looking horrendous. Mine looks the same right now, but I still made sure I took this chance with the break in the weather to get some blackcurrant cuttings in. The 'mess' can wait.

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  • Message 119

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    Posted by tulipmania (U3090145) on Tuesday, 18th January 2011

    That's cleared that up then - thanks!

    Greetings Tulip

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  • Message 120

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    Posted by jane stevens (U14756995) on Wednesday, 19th January 2011

    I see that I have indeed missed the point. This programme is about Carol in HER garden. Even so, I'd want a bit more contextualisation of what she does. It still looks like a random lot of specialised techniques in the midst of near chaos to me. And, although she is very nice, it's less interesting to me than it could be, if she only chatted a bit more about how and why she does what she does.

    Hybridising a hellebore is like making crepes suzette. You can do it and it's fun, but it's not going to feed your family. To do that you have to have a whole view, lots of ideas. And you have to know when to haul out the crepes suzette, to me it's not the first thing.

    I see someone has said that the programme is not for the novice gardener. I am far from that, but I'm interested in the big questions and ideas, plus I think they are what will help people get started. But I may be wrong about that, the BBC doesn't seem to try it where gardening is concerned so we'll never know. I stoutly adhere to the idea that people like gardens to look "nice" whatever that may mean. And that in itself is interesting.

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  • Message 121

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    Posted by Palaisglide (U3102587) on Wednesday, 19th January 2011

    I'd want a bit more contextualisation of what she does. It still looks like a random lot of specialised techniques in the midst of near chaos to me.  
    One persons heaven is another persons hell so they say and Carols garden would be a place of discovery having seen it in full bloom in other programmes.
    Some especially around me like correct manicured bowling green lawns with exactly formed border where the plants spring to attention when the owner appears with their glass of white wine to sit on the latest garden furniture, still they do employ local labour to keep it thus.
    Myself and others like a bit of discovery a bit of planned disorder and nothing in rows or regimental clumps. We both have our points of view and why not.
    Ask Carol where anything is in her garden and she could take you to it without a light on the darkest night, I would not call that disorder.
    Looking at the posts on this thread it is very obvious people love both Carol and her Garden dogs cat and lately her husband so why try to change a winning format.
    After some dire years of GW we now have something to rave over and at least we see it warts and all as it keeps flashing back and forward following the things Carol does and why she does them, a great format long may it last.

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  • Message 122

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    Posted by Joe_the_Gardener (U3478064) on Wednesday, 19th January 2011

    Well said, Frank

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  • Message 123

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    Posted by David K (U14115317) on Wednesday, 19th January 2011

    When we were asked to submit questions to Carol, I asked ‘Do you consider a well manicured lawn an asset or unnecessary hindrance in the garden?’
    She replied, ‘I know of lots of beautiful lawns but I have never had a lawn. They support little wildlife which is something that's very important to me.’

    I expected this response, and think therein lays the answer.

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  • Message 124

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    Posted by Palaisglide (U3102587) on Wednesday, 19th January 2011

    That made me smile David. I have seen my lawn many mornings black with Starlings loading up with snacks of Leather Jackets before leaving to fly inland.
    They are winning as we have less Crane Flies year by year.
    The local Blackbirds nest in the Lawsonia's and feed on the myriad worms which walking the dog and seeing it many times I now know migrate when young. I have seen paths on the water meadows covered with them on damp days.
    Lawns do seem to have a place in the world of wild life.

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  • Message 125

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    Posted by David K (U14115317) on Thursday, 20th January 2011

    I take your point, Frank, though the leather jacket season is very short in terms of supporting wild life.

    Incidentally, where I live in the Midlands, starlings are a rare sight these days. This is in marked contrast with about 20 years ago, when they were a real pest nesting in the eaves of my house.

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  • Message 126

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    Posted by solomonsseal (U3026097) on Friday, 21st January 2011

    This is such a lovely series, and I was just reflecting on how it contrasts with the Carol Klein "How to Grow Vegetables" series four or five years ago. It also was filmed in her garden. The factual content was OK. Her own character was the same then as it is now. But the presentation was so diabolical! The manic filming and manic editing, and bizarre choice of music. Never again. please!
    The current series puts me in mind of a lovely one that Carol made (was it on C4?) about ten or twelve years ago. I'm not mixing it up with "Real Gardens". The first programme in that series had to do with woodland gardening, and there were trilliums, wood anenomies etc. Lovely.

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  • Message 127

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    Posted by jane stevens (U14756995) on Friday, 21st January 2011

    Thanks for this reply Frank. I see that I have rather blundered in, and on reviewing Carol's programme on i -player I can also that the garden looks better than I first thought.

    Just to explain what I'm trying to get at. I work as a gardener and I get very worried when I see what seems to be an ever greater division between extremely keen gardeners and complete and utter ignorance. People seem to have forgotten some very basic things about looking after a bit of land, so that it's comfortable for both people and wildlife, inviting to go out in and yet not an endless maw for expense and energy. I'm a bit fearful that all this veg growing will put some people off it even more in the end.

    I would never want to put a keen gardener down, and am really not opposed to hellebore hybridising. But the things I find most rewarding are the effective, clever bits of garden care that get the most results over the long run and arise out of a deep understanding and experience. I'd love a programme that really tried to help people with that, making gardening quicker and easier rather than more complicated and confusing. So that was really my point. And I see that what I'm really looking for is a completely different programme. I shall enjoy this one anyway and shut up now. Thanks for all the other responses from kind and careful posters.

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  • Message 128

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    Posted by tulipmania (U3090145) on Friday, 21st January 2011

    Dear Jane,

    How well founded your comments are on the subject of vegetable growing, far more tricky than it sounds, especially if you want to do it without harming wildlife.
    Have had a lotty for 6 years and have had many painful failures, successes too, but the tragedy is that it takes as much gardening effort to produce those failures as it does the successes! All those seeds planted with great care, potting on etc, only for a turn in the weather or mice, moles, birds, thieves all to destroy all that hard work.

    Greetings Tulip

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  • Message 129

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    Posted by Obelixx (U2157162) on Friday, 21st January 2011

    I think we'd all enjoy a programme like that Jane and it's what GW should do each week throughout the season.

    I thought AT's How to Be a Gardener series was excellent in explaining basics and how and why plants grow without being patronising or complicated and, more importantly, made gardening fun and exciting and rewarding. I think Carol's series is doing a similar good job in following her garden through a whole year.

    I don't see why GW cannot aspire to similar excellence.

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  • Message 130

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    Posted by Lowena (U14575314) on Friday, 21st January 2011

    Totally agree Obelixx smiley - smiley

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  • Message 131

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    Posted by Palaisglide (U3102587) on Friday, 21st January 2011

    I actually found myself in full agreement with you had you been talking about Gardeners World, that certainly needs everything you pointed out in your excellent posts.
    We do need beginners slots as well as programmes for those who are more experienced, we all learn and I have picked up several points from Carols garden.
    No one blunders in Jane as each of us has an opinion and the right to put our thoughts on paper whether others agree or not.
    My only point is Carol has given us up to now a wonderful look at her gardening projects from start to finish something GW over the last few years failed to do.
    You keep saying it as you see it, we all do that.

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  • Message 132

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    Posted by judimac (U2467704) on Saturday, 22nd January 2011

    Ah Jane I fear that you suffer from the same condition as one of my friends. She trained at the Northern College of Music, and she doesn't enjoy Mozart any more because she is constantly analysing the notes etc.
    The amateur gardeners amongst us can just sit back and enjoy what is for us an excellent programme.

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  • Message 133

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    Posted by Palaisglide (U3102587) on Saturday, 22nd January 2011

    Another excellent programme Carol just cannot fail with me. That wood she was walking through is much like the wood just down the field from me. It starts off with the Celandine's covering the ground in a brittle yellow carpet that cheers then we have clumps of snowdrops that get larger by the year.
    Wild garlic with its pungent smell and wonderful white flowers (I pick some of the flowers to add to cooking salmon) followed by the blue bells cow parsley and then the canopy stops the light so apart from the odd glade with some angelica it becomes a briar patch. Woodpeckers the odd Kingfisher sitting over the beck and a myriad of small birds, it changes day to day so I know what Carol means when she says you can lose yourself in a wood.
    The summer shots of her garden show a much more symmetrical place than the early winter shots made us think, a garden I could get lost in any time with some fresh honey on my bread and a cup of tea it would indeed be pleasant.

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  • Message 134

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    Posted by Sue Hall (U13984403) on Saturday, 22nd January 2011

    Although I have owned, and enjoyed, a garden in various parts of the UK for the past 25 years, my gardening expertise and budget are heavily limited. But I have always wanted a Cottage garden and Carol Klein's series is proving to be, for me, just perfect.

    Part of its appeal is that I do have some limited knowledge and (I use the term loosely here) experience. But, Jane, although I appreciate your comments about hybridising hellebores, for me that is part of the magic of this programme! Clearly it's not rocket science, and one day I'll have a go at that, perhaps not this year or next, but because I now know it looks straightforward I'll give it a try and for me the joy of gardening is not in the neatly edged borders, candy-striped lawn and precision pruned shrubs, but in the 'Earth Mother' feeling when those tiny little bits of seedy nothing by some magic produce a glorious, vibrant, clashingly colourful display in just a few months!

    I think that's where GW lost its way for me a bit, there was little of relevance in the programme, being southern-centric in a garden with borders twice as big as my mini-plot and a budget way beyond mine!

    Well done Carol. All I need is for the snow and ice to melt at last and I'll be out there!

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  • Message 135

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    Posted by PenylanSue (U13901201) on Saturday, 22nd January 2011

    Like most people on this thread, I too am loving Carol's programme but can we please stop comparing it to GW.
    Carol's programme was filmed probably in 2009 and took a whole year so of course they can keep showing us how it turns out. A whole year to do 6 half hour programmes!
    GW is shown as it is now. When a project is started, and remember they were only at Greenacres for 2 years, most of projects are not finished.

    We won't see Toby's projects come to maturity now will we?

    I know GW wasn't perfect but it's taken a step back again for me.
    I like Monty but wished he had done something else.

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  • Message 136

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    Posted by Palaisglide (U3102587) on Saturday, 22nd January 2011

    Comparisons are how we learn to like or dislike anything so I am afraid that when we suddenly get first class programmes such as Alan T and Carol are now presenting we do wonder what on earth we have been watching more in hope than anger the last two years.
    Even same season projects never got finished, they started several of those and we never got any results. We never saw any more of the scared looking rabbits getting a garden plonked on them, they probably died of fright. The garden shed roof garden was falling down as they did it so we never saw that again. Things would appear out of the blue with no explanation, I would still like to know how those banks appeared and the little stream or was that flood water.
    I admit I do get the Saturday Mail but hasten to add it is only for the TV section and to read Monty's garden section, he gives a well set out and concise explanation on how things can be done so, as a presenter of some experience would be expected to do.
    After the last couple of years fiasco I for one look forward to his reappearance and a more solid less frivolous approach to gardening. As it will be in his own garden he must obviously have more say in how it is presented.
    Meanwhile I will compare things such as the Irish steak I cooked for tea supposedly organic all singing all dancing and expensive against Tospots goodness knows what but cheaper and for me more tender and tastier, that is how things work.

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    Posted by corymb (U14586644) on Saturday, 22nd January 2011

    Pennylan Sue is right. This would have been an expensive programme to make and no doubt the beeb will be disappointed that more people aren't watching.
    Life in a Cottage Garden started out with 1.9 million viewers and has since dropped to around 1.5. It doesn't make the top 30 shows on BBC 2. It's being watched by about the same amount of people as watched Alys's 'Edible Garden' and regardless of how much people talk it down on these boards, the truth is far more have been tuning in to Gardener's World.

    It's a worrying sign for TV gardening when even shows with such high production values struggle to pull in viewers.

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    Posted by Paul N (U6451125) on Saturday, 22nd January 2011

    After praising last weeks programme so much, I was a bit concerned last night with the first ten minutes. I didn't care for the dog walking in the woods piece and kept urging her to 'get on with some gardening!' All this dreamy contemplating, I can do without. It's not as though she had a whole hour to play with.

    Fortunately the remaining twenty minutes made up for it. I really enjoy Carol's garden and must make to effort to try to visit when I can.

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    Posted by Ken Smart (U1158196) on Saturday, 22nd January 2011

    It's a worrying sign for TV gardening when even shows with such high production values struggle to pull in viewers. 
    I wonder if the 'Cottage Garden' series has been adequately advertised. There are some programmes which are trailed incessantly, and others which hardly get a mention. I honestly can't recall seeing publicity for this programme (although there has got to have been some). Is it possible that the BBC didn't wish this mini-series to steal the thunder of the forthcoming 'all new' GW season? The viewing figures certainly surprise me - it would suggest that a large number of people who saw the first programme, weren't sufficiently impressed to follow the series through. Perhaps it also deserved better than to be scheduled as a supporting programme to repeats of 'Edible Garden'. Anyway, for my part, I can't recall when 30 minutes has last passed so quickly - loving it.

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    Posted by tulipmania (U3090145) on Saturday, 22nd January 2011

    It's just too short, an hour would have been perfect.
    Greetings Tulip

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    Posted by Sue Hall (U13984403) on Saturday, 22nd January 2011

    Apologies everyone - it's what comes of bashing something out in the 2 minutes before tea (not organic steak for us tonight unfortunately Frank!), ie furious fingers, brain in the kitchen. I really did not mean to get into the GW Toby vs Monty debacle; it's just an observation that GW as a whole, regardless of presenter, over the past few years (even as far back as AT dare I say!) has not hit the spot for me, for a whole combination of reasons, like Life in a Cottage garden has . And perhaps that is because it is a programme concentrating on what I would love to do in my garden! Plus it has 'Weather' (lots of it) and 'Issues' (lots of those too) that I can identify with. Congratulations to Carol and team and I hope there's more of it - a series 2 of the cutting room floor cast-offs please!

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    Posted by corymb (U14586644) on Sunday, 23rd January 2011

    It is puzzling that my message had been modded as it contained nothing rude, offensive or untrue. What's more, the information it contained is all in the public domain as it referred to adverse reporting about Life in a Cottage Garden in this week's Horticulture Week and the low Barb ratings for the summer of 2008 during Carol's brief tenure. Who does the truth so offend?

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  • Message 144

    , in reply to message 143.

    Posted by David K (U14115317) on Sunday, 23rd January 2011

    Hi, corymb

    These boards are reactively moderated, so it's probably due to someone finding something contentious in the content of your message and have complained about it. If the complaint isn't upheld, it will be reinstated.

    Be assured, it wasn't me who complained, but I did read it and found your comments a little hostile towards Carol....not a wise move hereabouts.

    I would point out that the horticultural industry were very anti Geoff Hamilton at one time, because of his organic (no chemical) approach to gardening.

    I will be happy to comment (and defend Carol) more specifically if your message is reinstated.

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  • Message 145

    , in reply to message 144.

    Posted by corymb (U14586644) on Sunday, 23rd January 2011

    Thank you, David

    Whether it is 'wise' or unwise to express an opinion surely isn't the issue. These boards are here to allow everyone regardless of whether other boarders approve or not, to to have their say and provide feedback to the BBC.

    I thought it was quite odd the way Jane Stevens for example, was rounded upon for not enjoying elements of the programme by three or so core boarders with an agenda to make her change her mind, after which she apologised and made herself scarce. Other gardening forums tend to be far more balanced.

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  • Message 146

    , in reply to message 145.

    Posted by Paul N (U6451125) on Sunday, 23rd January 2011


    I don't recall the post by Jane Stevens nor the others you mention. To save me wading through dozens of posts, could you please mention the post numbers? Ta.

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  • Message 147

    , in reply to message 145.

    Posted by David K (U14115317) on Sunday, 23rd January 2011

    I thought it was quite odd the way Jane Stevens for example, was rounded upon for not enjoying elements of the programme by three or so core boarders with an agenda to make her change her mind, after which she apologised and made herself scarce. 

    Strange how different we read these things. As I read it, Jane made her point and the following exchanges were perfectly amicable.

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  • Message 148

    , in reply to message 146.

    Posted by Obelixx (U2157162) on Monday, 24th January 2011

    Paul N, you only have to scroll up the page to 110 and then read on.

    Corymb - I don't think Jane was pounced on and I hope she doesn't either as it seems she share's a desire, in common with many others who post on here, for excellence in gardening TV.

    As for the seed sowing on TV debate with which Jane began her post, I've just spent a sumptuous hour or two reading through a catalogue filled with plants I have no hope of finding here in the markets, plant fairs or nurseries and so will be placing an order for seed.

    It's good to be reminded that seed sowing is a perfectly normal part of gardening and one of the cheapest ways of increasing stock and getting interesting plants whether from seeds saved at home, swapped with friends or bought in. It does require patience and, for some seeds, different techniques, but is very exciting and so satisfying when they do succeed. any helpful hints and tips are therefore to be welcomed. Ditto divisions and cuttings for those with the time and/or limited budgets.

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  • Message 149

    , in reply to message 144.

    Posted by ArtemisH (U14261033) on Monday, 24th January 2011

    .. the horticultural industry were very anti Geoff Hamilton at one time, because of his organic (no chemical) approach to gardening. 

    It seems to me that some, on these boards, who have nurseries and sell to the public, are equally hostile to MD.

    It almost makes me laugh that they imagine gardeners need "permission" from him to buy what they feel their gardens need!

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  • Message 150

    , in reply to message 148.

    Posted by Jen (U14605575) on Monday, 24th January 2011

    Guys, rather than discussing who said what in previous posts, how about we get back on track and talk about what you loved - and indeed didn't love - about Carol's programmes.


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