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Posted by edsmom (U14887714) on Tuesday, 31st May 2011
Please can anyone advise me? I have a small veg patch in my back garden which the local hoard of cats have confused with a litter tray! I am removing between 3 - 5 deposits each morning, I am concerned that my veggies will not be fit for consumption? I would welcome any hints on deterring these deposits and am I wasting my time growing food if it cannot be consumed!
Posted by chris (U14479141) on Wednesday, 1st June 2011
hello edsmom i know exactly how you are feeling as we have the same problem,your best bet is to net the whole area we have done this and it does work,what we did was to get some bamboo canes cut them to about 2ft 6 cut a slit in the top enough for the netting to sit in,(its the green plastic netting it will probably cost you about £18 to £20 ) its a pain when having to lift the net every time you want to go on the plot but its worth it,its a pity people don`t buy cat litter some want to have pets but don`t want to pay for certain things,what we need is government legislation on cats as they are classed as vermin,every gardener i know has this problem something should be done and its not right or fair, kind regards Chris
Posted by jo4eyes (U13654107) on Wednesday, 1st June 2011
It's the bare soil that they want.
Have you, or any other neighbours/relatives, got any prickly shrubs nearby- berberis, holly, hawthorn, pyracantha? Cut off stems/branches & lay those across the bed in between the plants. As many as space permits to cover as much soil as possible. The cats wont like that & as the plants grow less soil visible & so less of a problem. Ok the dying branches not 'pretty' but cat poo?..... I have been known to give it back to the owners!
In the autumn/winter any bare soil left for next years veg bed I cover with pegged down pea/bean netting.
The other alternative is grow in pots! good luck. J.
Posted by thedogcody (U14659366) on Wednesday, 1st June 2011
I had the same problem and did the same thing -made a make-shift cage- unfortunately the cat at some point jumped into the cage and I found the offending creature next morning charging round inside the structure obviously distressed and wrecking everything -just a cautionary tale!
Cats are a real nuisance and why do they think that their neighbours garden is their toilet?
You might still be able to buy something called pepper dust to deter them but I have not had much success with this - useless after rain.
Get a dog or a water cannon to frighten them off - I find this quite therapeutic!
Posted by garyhobson (U11055016) on Wednesday, 1st June 2011
There is a plant, Coleus canina, which is sold as a cat (and dog) repellant under proprietary names of 'Pee-off' and 'Scaredy-Cat'. It's available from garden centres and on-line. I believe that Scaredy-Cat is best grown in pots, so the pots can be moved around to follow wherever the enemy goes next; and also brought inside during Winter.
There's an 'old-wives-tale' answer: 2-litre bottles, part filled with water, laid on their side, are said spook cats, because of the reflections they create.
I've got no idea whether either of those actually work.
It's the bare soil that they want.
I agree with that. It's an important point.
I have cats 'around', but virtually no bare earth, and I don't get any problems.
Posted by Kleftiwallah (U13700999) on Wednesday, 1st June 2011
If you construct a vertical wall of flexible mesh (no roof) and keep the mesh walls as 'wobbly' as possible, this may deter them from attempting to breach the area as they cannot get a purchase on the mesh. Just a thought, cheers, Tony.
Posted by nanpickle (U14258493) on Wednesday, 1st June 2011
Regarding the coleus canina - I found they were totally useless, the cat used to leave its deposit next to the plant. I grow my veg in pots/troughs and last year lost a whole square planter full of lettuces, so growing in pots is not the answer either. OH proudly presented me with a "cat repellent powder" I sprinkled it liberally and cat left its offering on top of it. I now cover every bit of exposed soil with sticks, twigs, etc and so far that seems the most effective. Good luck. Nan x
Posted by Holbert (U3994703) on Wednesday, 1st June 2011
Keeping the ground well watered helps as they don't like wet ground or you can use pepper which does seem to keep them off my veggie beds. I use Tesco value pepper which is 18p for a small pot.
When the veg is small though, I use nets. It's the only thing that is totally effective and I just can't bear the thought of cat turds in the lettuce! I put bamboo canes at each corner of the veg bed and one in the middle, put an old plastic flower pot on the top of each cane to support the netting, drape netting over the top and hold the edges down with lots of stones.
It's a pain in the bum for weeding but better than the alternative of anointed salad leaves!
Posted by Garden Girl (U14407006) on Wednesday, 1st June 2011
Tried to post this yesterday but did not work
Hi I had a similar problem recently so I got my raised bed built higher, you could then put netting or fleece on top which could help the cats keep off the vegetable patch. Not sure if cats like climbing that high to go to the toilet.
Getting plants grown in trays or pots or buy plants and transplanting them would help because if sowing from seed they would be disturbed or dug up. You could try growing cat mint like catnep proper name nepeta cataria.
You could grow cat mint around the vegetable bed which the cat would stop to rub the plant and they might think of that as a nice place to be so would forget about going to the toilet and might not want to there.
Also the cat mint plant has pink/purple flowers that look pretty and would attract the bees so would be good to pollinate your veg patch.
Posted by gingercodgers (U13917848) on Wednesday, 1st June 2011
Sprinkle a handfull of moth balls round the edge of your garden. I find it works even when they get wet. Not too near to the house though.
It only cost £1 for a box and they last all year.
Posted by Joe53 (U14888930) on Wednesday, 1st June 2011
Any risk of infection if vegs are eaten after cats perform?
Posted by fatchilli (U14886169) on Wednesday, 1st June 2011
What you need is a flock of chickens ( big ones ) our neighbours cats are scared of them and it is very amusing to watch them on the run from a huffy hen. mind you, then you have to find a way to stop the hens eating the veg mmmm ( I have no brassica's in my veg plot and the seem to like onions for some silly reason and the garlic).
what I have found to work is all the chop sticks and lots of twigs of trees just stuck all over the place - stops the bare ground inviting fluffy in.
Posted by youngandallotmenting (U14434252) on Wednesday, 1st June 2011
Lion poo...sounds crazy but it worked for me at my old house!
Think it was called silent roar or similar... Might be worth a go?
Posted by snakey75 (U3915327) on Wednesday, 1st June 2011
Try disused tea bags with drops of olbas oil scattered around...... they don't like the smell of it so stay away.
Worked with me so worth a try....
Posted by farmerSteve (U2644680) on Thursday, 2nd June 2011
you should have no issues with vegetables you cook from a safety issue
I certainly would do everything you can to deter them . it is just not nice and it is not nice to have to remove them either
I would not want cats doing this among my salads at all
To be honest I would never do it but I understand when some people poison cats So many people are completely irresponsible in keeping cats into their property
Posted by David (U14400760) on Tuesday, 7th June 2011
Any risk of infection if vegs are eaten after cats perform? There is a chance of infection from Toxoplasma gondii which is a protozoan parasite from cats. Its very prevalent in the UK about 20% of the population carry it. It can cause problems in pregnant women (toxoplasmosis) but for most it will not cause any problems. Interestingly in rodents it affects behaviour so that they are not so scared of cats and some will actually seek out areas with the smell of cat urine so it has the ability to change the behaviour of the host in the hope that it will be eaten by a cat and the parasite will then be able to carry out its lifecycle in the cat which is its final host.
There are some studies that it may affect behaviour in humans but not very conclusive, apparently it can slow reaction times so is more prevalent in drivers involved in car crashes and theres some possible .association with schizophrenia
Be thankful you don't live in France where 88% of the population is infected probably as they eat more raw meat. Overall a third of the worlds population in infected. Pretty neat for a cat parasite.
Posted by linda (U1797657) on Tuesday, 7th June 2011
I am a keen gardener and also have a cat which I took in as a stray. Mine is toilet-trained so doesn't go on the veg bed, but I have had problems with one neighbourhood cat. A water gun works pretty well. One of those toy ones with a turbo jet has a good range. You only have to get it a couple of times and it will get the message
Posted by linda (U1797657) on Tuesday, 7th June 2011
Pea sticks work too - for cats, pigeons and squirrels
Posted by thedogcody (U14659366) on Wednesday, 8th June 2011
That blasted cat from next- door is back using my garden as his toilet - the owner is such a lazy slob he does nothing in his garden so the cat comes into mine - I have resorted to throwing the offending material back over the fence- he wont even notice- and shouting at the cat when I see it.
These people are irresponsible pet owners and if they set aside an area in their own garden the animal is more likely to use it.
I feel I am at fault for my behaviour but what is one supposed to do- frustration doesn't cover it-my asbo is probably in the post!!
Posted by martingodliman (U13761957) on Wednesday, 8th June 2011
I think the only answer is some kind of barrier or cage netting I have had some cats sh*t in mine but my worst problem is foxes just digging holes looking for worms I guess. They don't bury their feces but deposit them prominently on top of things, I would happily do away with them if it was easy and legal.
It is tedious to tend one's patch under a cage or suspended netting I took mine off the other day thinking the plants were big enough now to cover the ground enough to deter them....not so.
I still had to fill in holes in my tomato patch and cavolo nero bed they were almost dug up.
Another thing I don't like about cages and suspended netting is it looks so cr@p I know it's very blokey/aspergic and anal but I like the look of nice neat rows of stuff
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